Dr told me "it's in my head"

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JustK
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   Posted 2/27/2007 8:18 PM (GMT -7)   
He told me to ask my PCP for some anti depressents because the pain is in my head and I'm bringing on the IBS myself.
 
I think I could cry. I'm really not crazy!
 
 

scared2getsick
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   Posted 2/27/2007 8:27 PM (GMT -7)   
I do not think that you are crazy. But I do think that sometimes anxiety and stress can cause IBS attacks. I know that I struggle with anxiety and panic attacks myself and can often predict an attack before it happens. It sucks. Have you tried stress relieving activiies like exercise? It really helps. Also, have you asked the doctor for pain meds? I have seemed to have pretty good luck with Levsid .375 if I take it soon enough and a heating pad. Start keeping a journal of your feelings, diet and times of pain, how long it lasts etc... You may be able to see a pattern and prove the doctor wrong or at least allow him to find some ways to help you. I am not a big fan of anti-depressents unless you really need them, especially if you are young. Im not saying its wrong to take them, I just worry about their side effects and whether or not they will still work ten or twenty years from now. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IF YOU AND THE DOC FEEL LIKE YOU NEED THEM, TAKE THEM! Has he givem you suggestions on how to help yourself? Is he a GI? I listed some helpful things below. Good luck. I am praying for you.
-activia yogurt
-digestive advantage
-water
-heating pad
-yoga
-deep breathing
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Canyonbabe711
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   Posted 2/27/2007 11:05 PM (GMT -7)   
These Doctors see us when we are most anxious cause we don't know what is going on with us and they jump to conclusions. Of course our nevers can bother our stomach but seldom on a day to day basis. I agree about keeping diary. Sometimes antidepressants help ONLY because they work on Serotonin and there is more Serotonin in our intestines than in our head or their should be. In that respect it can help. Same with anti anxiety meds, they can help some but the problem is a functional problem. my other suggestions is to get another after you keep a journel and try the various things suggested. Please do use the probiotics for a few weeks, heating pad,etc. We are not all crazy and I doubt you are either. I hope you have a good PCP that you can talk to aobut this.

LondonGirl22
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   Posted 2/28/2007 5:18 AM (GMT -7)   
Yikes.

Doctors can be such pains. IBS is an illness full stop! Your symptoms are real and your pain is real. Stress/depression and anxiety can make IBS worse. I know that as it makes mine worse but your symptoms are most definatley real.
Can you see another doctor? There are meds for IBS that can help you - antispasmodics to reduce the spasm pain.

Please dont feel like you are crazy - you are not I promise. Some doctors so not understand IBS.

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Keriamon
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   Posted 2/28/2007 9:42 AM (GMT -7)   
I always advocate grabbing a man by the balls and saying "Why are you squealing? It's just in your head. Men really don't have the pain in their testicles that they think they have." LOL

No, you are not imagining you pain. BUT, at the same time, certain antidepressants (note, you have to get the right kind) are doing wonders for people's bowels. And not just with the pain; they can make you regular again. So don't dismiss the anti-depressants, even if your doctor is an idiot and an anus.

And yes, while stress can worsen IBS symptoms, it has been PROVEN that you can't "give" yourself IBS. PROVEN.

scared2getsick
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   Posted 3/1/2007 9:34 PM (GMT -7)   
do you mind telling me more about how it was proven? i often can get up feeling great, worry about getting an attack and then have one, sometimes 8-9hrs later or even days later, if im worrying about getting sick at an important event. i seem to be able to give myself attacks!
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Silvara7
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   Posted 3/2/2007 12:10 AM (GMT -7)   
mad I hate it when Drs tell us we're "nervous nellys" or other bull like that. My GI told me that this morning. I've had IBS for over 20 years and my pain is on my right side, just under my ribs. Some days it's just awful, and others it's just in the background. But it's nearly always there. I tend towards D, but C is also there.

Over the last two months, I've had a recurrance of my GERD even though I was on Aciphex. I had constant feelings of splashing up my esophagus and burning pain in my stomach. In 6 weeks, I lost 10 lbs and couldn't eat much of anything because of the nausea and burning and feeling of something stuck in my throat. Endoscopy showed gastritis, but my esophagus looked normal.

Almost 2 weeks ago I got severe cramping pains that had me sweating and nearly crying. Horrendous diarrhea followed and that was followed by mucus and pure blood. That got the GI to make me have a colonoscopy last week. Colonoscopy showed severe inflammation of the colon. Lots of swelling, ulcerations, narrowing and redness. He took a biopsy to check for UC.

I went for follow up today and he accused me of being a nervous person, a real "nervous nelly" and that was the cause of my IBS. The biopsy didn't show UC (he didn't say what it did show, but I thought UC wasn't just based on the biopsy). He gave me flagyl last week and it's helped me feel better (I think it's used for UC?), Dr said it is the standard for treating colitis. That's it? I just have non-specific colitis? Did my nerves cause that, too?

My GERD and abdominal pain have lessened since I started the flagyl. What will happen when I stop it? Do people have IBS and IBD together?

Something else for me to worry about, right?

Wendy sad

SnowyLynne
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   Posted 3/2/2007 1:55 AM (GMT -7)   
Did you have a Colonoscopy??That's how IBS was found in me.You need to see a Gastrologist if you haven't already.......STRESS is a biggie & it does affect & make IBS worse...


SnowyLynne


Keriamon
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   Posted 3/2/2007 8:38 AM (GMT -7)   
I've never heard of anyone worrying themselves into making their colon bleed, Silvara. Sounds like a quack. I'd take my test results to another doctor and tell him flat out that you have passed blood in your stools and your doctor found inflammation in your colon, but then dismissed it. Antibiotics are good for people with bad bacteria problems, or parasite problems, but I don't think they can truly help someone with an IBD; you need other kinds of medicines to help keep your colon from ulcerating.

Although, yes, you can have IBS and IBD at the same time. I still haven't figured that one out, myself, but they say if you are having problems without visible inflammation, then you are having an IBS attack. Personally, I think that IBDs should be reckoned to cause bowel problems anytime, even without constant visible inflammation, but doctors would rather label you with both.

Keriamon
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   Posted 3/2/2007 8:41 AM (GMT -7)   
Scared2getSick, I'll see if I can find the article I read that said that IBS was NOT caused by stress. You have IBS. That stress makes you have an attack doesn't mean that stress made you have IBS. I guess they proved that by finding people who weren't under stress who still had IBS anyways. And then there are people who are under stress, but never get IBS. It's like people used to say "you'll worry yourself into an ulcer" because we used to think that they were caused by acid and that worried people produced more acid, but now we know almost all of them are caused by bad bacteria and the rest aren't stress-induced. I think it's all just a way to put the blame for the problem on the patient instead of just fixing the problem.

dbab
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   Posted 3/2/2007 8:45 AM (GMT -7)   
IBD is inflammatory and IBS is functional so yes you can have both. Its the same thing as having both asthma and allergies, lupus and fibromyalgia, etc.; these are all different diseases that can go hand in hand with each other although having one does not mean you have or will get the other.
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Silvara7
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   Posted 3/2/2007 5:25 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks for the info that IBS and IBD can run concurrently. I guess I just thought IBD trumped IBS.

BTW, Justk I've been on antidepressants for over a year now and I still have IBS symptoms. In fact, my current situation with my GI Doc has got me in a whole new anxious state and the antianxiety meds I hadn't taken in over 6 mos are back. Do these Drs think we want to be "worried" and in pain and sick? What are they teaching them about IBS in med school? nono
Wendy
20+ yrs IBS


Keriamon
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   Posted 3/5/2007 8:46 AM (GMT -7)   
Are you sure you are on the kind of antidepressants that help IBS? As far as I am aware, certain antidepressants don't help IBS. It's actually been some of the newer ones that were found to help IBS. I think only the ones that increase your serontonin levels help IBS.

Silvara7
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   Posted 3/5/2007 2:46 PM (GMT -7)   
Keriamon said...
Are you sure you are on the kind of antidepressants that help IBS? As far as I am aware, certain antidepressants don't help IBS. It's actually been some of the newer ones that were found to help IBS. I think only the ones that increase your serontonin levels help IBS.
I don't know if I'm on the "right" ones...  I've never found anything specifying one over another for it.  I have had major depression for most of my life, but only got help with it after 2001.  I've been on 3 different AD's now and haven't noticed a bit of difference with my IBS pain.  All of them have been SSRI's. 
Wendy
20+ yrs IBS, 7 yrs hypothyroid, 3 yrs GERD, "stomach problems" my whole life.
Prevacid 15mg


dbab
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   Posted 3/5/2007 2:59 PM (GMT -7)   
Silvara, Not all people with IBS benefit from antidepressants. I am one that has not. Not everyone will have the same reaction thats why there are so many different treatments for the same thing. Unfortunately, IBS is one problem that needs more options however I am confident that will happen soon. There are tons of trials on new meds that we never see until if it makes it to the end so at least we know they're trying which counts for something. For now, just a bunch of trial and error unfortunately.
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