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sunshine323
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   Posted 2/28/2007 6:19 AM (GMT -7)   
So, after talking with my very concerned fiancee, I've decided to start a food diary, and write down everything I eat at what times, and whether my tummy hurts or not, and in what way, and at what time, and try to figure out exactly what's triggering me so that I can avoid it and hopefully get this under control. It was nice last night, because my tummy didn't hurt at ALL ... no gas, no cramps, no nausea ... it's so odd, because I can eat Panera Bread (not EVERYTHING, but a lot of stuff there) and it never bothers me. I think they put something magic in their food, because a friend of mine who has severe GI problems and can't eat hardly anything can always eat their french onion soup, their bread, and some other things on good days. anyway ... that was random, but I was excited about no pain or nasty-feeling last night. I needed the sleep pretty badly, too.

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   Posted 2/28/2007 9:56 AM (GMT -7)   
If you can tolerate Panera Bread better than any other place to eat out, then while you go about your diary logging, look for connections between atrifical flavors, preservative and dyes. I think Panera doesn't use that stuff in their food (they make their bread fresh everyday, so there's no need to load it up the way grocery-store breads do). You might also look to see if they use a lot of organic products. Sometimes people are allergic to the pesticide residue left on foods and that can cause stomach problems. If you can't find complete nutritional information on their website (I think you can), you can always ask to look at the ingredients list in the store. (I've done so, wondering if they put ham in their clam chowder).

The other thing about Panera (only "fast food" place I ever eat at) is that they don't deep fry anything, and their meats are grilled, not cooked on lard. So grease/fat content may be another thing to look at when you are trying to figure out your triggers. Chick-fil-A is the only other place I can eat at (but not one near me, so I only eat it on rare occasions) because they deep-fry in peanut oil, which doesn't trigger me the way trans-fats do. Peanut oil is one of those healthy, good-for-you fats. If you can tolerate their fast food too, then you may well have a problem with greast and fat (as I do).

I like the Chicken Frontega myself!

sunshine323
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   Posted 2/28/2007 3:01 PM (GMT -7)   
Ooh, the chicken frontega is my favorite panini :) i also like the new turkey caprese sandwich - it has yummy roasted tomatoes on it.

and a random, non-related question - i have heard/read that there have been links found betweeen childhood stomach/intestinal issues and IBS. I had BAD colic ... like, really really severe ... when I was a baby, and it lasted for about 3 or 4 months. Does anyone else on this board have that history, or another sort of history with a childhood disease/syndrome? I'm just curious if there could be a link between the two...

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   Posted 2/28/2007 4:21 PM (GMT -7)   
I had severe colic as a baby (had to be hospitalized for it). I had some problems off and on with constipation as a child, but then my gall bladder went bad, so now I mostly have D, unless I take medicine.

They have found a link between being premature and having bowel problems (I posted a link to the story, but that's been months ago). They think maybe the bowels don't finish developing normally, as they would have if the baby had stayed in the womb. A LOT of people on here with true IBS were born premature or underweight or both.

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   Posted 2/28/2007 6:28 PM (GMT -7)   
I had colic too as a baby... but I didn't have it too terrible (like normal I would think).  I was, however, a preemie.
 
Here is Keri's post about preemies and intestinal problems:
Intestinal Problems in Preemies
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sunshine323
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   Posted 3/1/2007 2:03 AM (GMT -7)   
You know, that's really interesting ... I worked in an NICU in january as an elective nursing class, and want to work there when i graduate, and one of the main problems (that's really severe, actually) is something called NEC (nursing lingo for necrotizing entercolitis) ... it's caused by an immature gut, and not tolerating formula/breastmilk/whatever well. They sometimes have to remove like half of the babies' bowels who have it severely ... it's bad news. but yeah, you have to really watch the babies GI stuff, and I's and O's, etc. hmm.....
totally makes sense though, because preemies w/ respiratory issues are way more prone to asthma/other resp. problems as they get older. i'd think the gi tract would be the same way.

i wasn't a preemie, or underweight at all, when i was born. i was 8 lb, 15 oz, in fact ... but i did have the colic thing really bad...

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   Posted 3/1/2007 6:48 AM (GMT -7)   
I wasn't a preemie... actually I was 2 weeks late (back in those days, they didn't induce pregnancies unless it was life threatening). I weighed a whoping 10 lbs 5 oz at birth and my mother is only 5'1" (poor thing). I did get staph after birth and was in the hospital for almost a month in intensive care after I was born but I never really thought of any connection with anything. Maybe something to think about.
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   Posted 3/1/2007 9:58 AM (GMT -7)   
Dbab, next time your mother goes on about carrying you 2 weeks (guilt-trip--all mother's do it at some point, lol), tell her at least she wasn't my mom. I was a MONTH overdue. The doctor kept telling her I was undersized and refused to induce or do a C-section on her. I came out at 8 pounds and about 4 oz. They had to pull me out with forceps because I was too big to come out on my own. She's 5'4", but she was under 120 pounds before pregnancy, so also very small to have such a big baby. Of course, not as big as you, lol.

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   Posted 3/1/2007 10:17 AM (GMT -7)   
No, my mom gives me the once a year hemorrhoids guilt trip that they flare up around my month of birth LOL. I then have to remind her that having hemorrhoids once a year is a blessing in my book. :)
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   Posted 3/2/2007 5:17 PM (GMT -7)   

LOL you guys crack me up...and man, you guys were porkers!  My nephew was also one (at least nine pounds, I think), jeez louise, and my poor sister is 5'2" and probably 110 pounds normally.

I was a pipsqueak because my mother didn't take the best care of herself during her pregnancy and also had pneumonia when I was born - I came out a month early and was just over four pounds!  Freakin' freaky, the nurses called me "peanut" and left me in an incubator so I could finish developing, LOL.

I've definitely made up for it now though, weight-wise!  Ha!


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   Posted 3/2/2007 7:07 PM (GMT -7)   

LOL  "Porkers!"  That is too funny.
I was very similar to you, Sarita... Just over a month early, right at 4lbs and left in an incubator.  My mom's docs miscalculated her due date and took me out way too early.

Apparently not everyone was a preemie... Now they need to find another link between all of us "pipsqueaks" and "porkers."  tongue


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   Posted 3/2/2007 8:34 PM (GMT -7)   
I just love roly-poly babies!!!

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   Posted 3/2/2007 8:36 PM (GMT -7)   
P.S. Sunshine, we just totally hijacked your thread!  How's the food diary going?  I kept one for several weeks.  I took a nutrition course last year and had to keep track of my diet with some software and it calculated all the nutrients in the food, whether I was getting enough vitamins and minerals for my size, etc.  It was awesome!

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   Posted 3/2/2007 10:41 PM (GMT -7)   
I can't help but think it is the preservatives and possibly the yeast but most likely the preservatives. Have you tried other fresh bakery bread. Most supermarkets do make a lot of their own bread. I want to try that Paninia you guys talked about.

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   Posted 3/3/2007 12:53 AM (GMT -7)   
Canyon,
Have you been to Panera yet? It is soooooo good. If I remember correctly you are in the east bay... In Fremont? There is a Panera that just opened up in Hayward at Southland Mall. I don't know of any others outside of the south bay. Anyway, they have this Turkey Artichoke Panini that is AWESOME.

Sunshine,
After you've analyzed your food diary, make sure to eliminate 1 food at a time. You don't want to eliminate everything that 'might' be giving you trouble or else you'll never know which was the culprit. OR, I guess you could do the reverse. ??? Eliminate everything that might be giving you trouble and then re-introduce them 1 at a time and see which causes you grief.
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   Posted 3/5/2007 8:50 AM (GMT -7)   
Actually, Lil, taking out everything and then adding things back in one at a time isn't a bad idea, since nothing says you can only have a reaction to one thing. I think that can frustrate a lot of people to think they've found their trigger, then to find they're sick because they really have another trigger too.
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