gall bladder surgury and high liver function tests

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scamper
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   Posted 3/31/2007 11:40 AM (GMT -6)   
hi, am new to the board,,,gall bladder removed about 6 weeks ago,,was taking questran for diarrehea, had blood work done and my ast liver function went from 22 to 97,,,never had high levels ever, and I get physicals once a yr. am now 55 yrs old..noticed on 2 sites questran can cause abnormal liver functions,,has anyone had this happen to them,,I am hoping this is just due to my liver learning to function since the GB is gone,,thanks all for any info!
 

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   Posted 3/31/2007 11:49 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi there and welcome,
  I am interested to hear the response of those who have information about this question as well. I've been on questran since 2001...I had my gall bladder removed that summer and have had the diarreha ever since. Should I get a liver function test done possibly? I hope everyone has a good day....
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scamper
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   Posted 3/31/2007 7:58 PM (GMT -6)   

hi mala,,I asked my dr. for liver function tests, since its doing more work,,,was shocked,,at the high numbers,,since they have always been ok,,,the nurse who called me said, she didnt think the questran did it,,,and she never heard of anyones numbers going up after gall bladder surgury , I asked if my liver was "learning to react to the GB not being there", she said perhaps, and said dr. thought it may be fatty liver, but since my pre op numbers were normal,,,I just have my doubts, stopped the questran,,just in case, although I read only 2 sites that mention it may cause abnormal liver funtion tests,,and I am now taking milk thistle,,will get retested in a mth...seeing my dr. in about 10 days,,all I can say,,is something happend with my GB being removed! I get bloodwork every yr. as part of my physical,,,when was the last time you had blood work,,and I love cats,,have 3!

 

 


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   Posted 4/1/2007 4:18 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi scamper,
Welcome to HealingWell! :-)
I've never heard of liver functions changing after gallbladder surgery... However, I'm not a doc and anything is possible. You might think about asking your doc for another med besides Questran. There are a few people on this board who take Welchol for their post gallbladder D. Maybe you could talk to your doc about switching. ???
Good luck!
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scamper
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   Posted 4/1/2007 8:53 PM (GMT -6)   
hi and thanks,,you know I took welchol for about 6 yrs and stopped after the surgury, what puzzles me is on jan. 24 my blood work was all normal,,,now the alt is high,,,dr. told nurse its probably fatty liver,,why then did this not show up in jan...am thinking beside the GB surgury being a big mistake it has cause me liver problems,,so depressed about all of this,,
thanks for your help.

Keriamon
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   Posted 4/2/2007 12:06 PM (GMT -6)   
I've been on Welchol 3 years, and if it's ever caused my liver function to jump up, no one's told me about it--or else, no one's bothered to check it. But I think someone probably did check it last year when I went to the doctor complaining of joint pain; I know she did blood work to check for lupus and a bunch of other things, so a liver test was probably in there.

Is it not possible that this was a falsely high reading? I hear about things that make other tests falsely high, so I don't see why you might not have taken something, eaten something or even been sick with something that would have caused that.

The main thing seems to be that your doctor doesn't seem concerned at this time, so I don't think you should be either. A lot of cholesterol meds--and that's what Welchol and Questran are--can elevate the liver readings; they're just par for the course. But what I was told was that Welchol, at least, is not absorbed into the bloodstream, so it's not supposed to interact with other meds. They use it as a cholesterol medicine of last resort for people who are on heart meds that interact with everything else. So, if my doctor told me right about that, I don't see how Welchol could raise my liver readings (or yours either). I was under the impression that Questran was in the same class as Welchol and worked the same way, but I don't know that for certain.

Anways, if you are determined to be off it, make sure to try Caltrate 600 w/ vitamin D for your diarrhea. It alone isn't enough to control mine, but it does help my Welchol so that I don't have to take as much of it.

scamper
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   Posted 4/2/2007 5:39 PM (GMT -6)   
hi and thanks for the input,,,I called the manufacturer of questran , well I take the light kind made by usher smith,,they did say it can cause abnormal liver function tests, I felt great on it and it worked sooo well,, but am taking a few weeks break fr. it,,and will try the blood test again,,I have started taking 1 capsule of milk thistle for the liver and got the Caltrate D today,,have any of you ever taken metamucil,,,heard it can help with the runs..I have this dull soreness by the liver also,,,seeing dr. next week,,,want to get a form for a liver ultrasound,,,I was almost seeing light at the end of the tunnel with my eating and diarrehea being under control then the liver tests came back,,,I had blood work before surgury and all was well , normal,,my dr. told her nurse she thinks I have fatty liver,,but can you get it in 5 weeks?????
again,,many thanks,,
 

Keriamon
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   Posted 4/3/2007 9:45 AM (GMT -6)   
I don't even know what a fatty liver is, but I am highly distrustful of the medical establishment labeling anything "fatty" as they have fat on the brain all the time, it seems. You know, that fat epidemic that's supposedly costing hundreds of thousands of lives each year, but which, oddly enough, doesn't seem to reflect on our average lifespan, which keeps going up. Anyways, I am with you; it does seem odd that you would naturally develop liver problems to that degree in just 5 weeks. And don't you have to gain a lot of weight to get a fatty liver? Again, I'm not sure what a fatty liver is, so I don't know how you get one, but 5 weeks seems awfully fast to develop.

Anyways, here's a question for you: does the medicine actually cause your liver to not function properly, or does the medicine just interfere with the test so that it gives you a false positive? There's a difference between giving you an abnormal test result and giving you an abnormal liver.

You might the fiber. It helps a lot of people. Me, my one dalliance with fiber left both my D and my C worse, so I stay away from supplements; if it's not naturally occuring in the foods I eat, I don't get any. I have read that for bulkier stools, you want a supplement that is mostly insoluable fiber. Soluable fiber dissolves in water and gives you lubrication (which, with D, you don't need), but the insoluable stuff is like the peels of potatoes and apples and bell peppers--it's stuff that stays pretty whole in your guts, so gives you the bulk you need to absorb the extra fluid. All forms of fiber have both types, but some supplements have more of one or the other usually.

scamper
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   Posted 4/3/2007 4:49 PM (GMT -6)   
Kerimon, thanks for the help,,,asked dr. yesterday to order liver ultrasound, nurse called today to say,,dr. says it isnt necessary at this point,,?????? and to call this gastro guy,,I have made an appt. weeks ago with one from the practice, instead of waiting till june to see her recommended dr. I dont know if the questran interferes with the liver,,,the company didnt say,,that is a very good question,,,all I know is the numbers were high,,,am asking the gastro dr. next fri. for an ultrasound...hoping he will say yes, like when did any dr. not want to give you a test? all I know is I am scared,,no problems before surgury and now several,,,I did take 2 caltrate that was recommended on this site and had NO diarrehea,,,also did 2 doses of metamucil,,so I am hoping this will continue to work,,today is 6 weeks since surgury,,some people never get rid of it, talked to a lady the other day, who said she had it for almost 1 full year...again,,thanks! I am so glad to have found you nice group of people!
 

Keriamon
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   Posted 4/3/2007 5:16 PM (GMT -6)   
1 year? I've been without a gall bladder 4 years. Have to take the Welchol or I get D. A great-aunt of mine had D everytime she ate for years and years. It became a habit that if they went out to eat, she checked out the bathroom before ordering food because it hit her just as soon as she ate. Most people actually never fully adjust and go back to normal. The people that don't end up with D or C from it, end up with acid reflux (like my mother).

scamper
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   Posted 4/4/2007 10:21 AM (GMT -6)   
Kerimon,,most of my friends never had any diarrehea, at all! none,,regular from the day after surgury,,,I still have indigestion and some acid,,belching,,this is why I made an appt. with gastro dr. so far the caltrate d and metamucil is helping,,with the runs...cant wait to see the gastro dr. hopefully he will do tests and actually talk to me!!!!!!!!! am just so down on drs...we need to form a group or something that alerts people to the fact that drs. yank these gall bladders out like its nothing, with out telling us what life will be like after!

Keriamon
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   Posted 4/4/2007 10:52 AM (GMT -6)   
Funny, I've never met a person who went back to being normal after a gall bladder surgery. Everyone I know has to be careful about what they eat and will still get episodes of D at random points in time, although I admit I'm a little less well-adjusted than some.

Mine wasn't pulled out for no reason. In fact, I was horribly desperate to get it out. My life has been so improved since I got it out. A lot of times doctors will take one out when you first start showing symptoms, and then when you end up with more problems afterwards than you had before, you regret letting them doing it. But let me preach, that they will get worse over time, that they are worse than the diarrhea that you suffer afterwards--a whole lot worse--and you will suffer needlessly. I've never had children, but one woman on here has and she said that her gall bladder attacks were a lot like labor contractions in intensity and pain. So imagine going into labor a couple of times a month for five years. I swear you're better off without it now. And since yours was only removed 6 weeks ago, there's still time for you to to improve some. Most doctors say at least 8 weeks.

scamper
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   Posted 4/4/2007 5:28 PM (GMT -6)   

hi Kerimon,,I had 3 attacks, mine were very bad indigestion,,,back pain,,jaw pain. I really thought,,heart attack,,I just wish I would have know the ultrasound was "misread",,would have tried antibiotics and diet change, I am eating good,,,keep loosing weight,,but I cant get my mind off of the liver tests,,I just pray they go down,, dont want to believe this surgury messed up the liver,,well going on 6 weeks next tues...keep hoping things will improve. Today had a bad bout of diarrehea,,so I took the caltrate d with my welchol,,,keeping my fingers crossed,,the welchol manuf. sanyko? I think, I called them and they didnt have any reports of liver function tests being abnormal..thanks again for your support!


Keriamon
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   Posted 4/5/2007 9:30 AM (GMT -6)   
I can't recall that I ever heard of taking a gall bladder out causing your liver to function incorrectly. Hopefully you just had a false positive on your test and the next time you get bloodwork done, it will be back to normal. Like I said, if Welchol has ever made my liver act oddly, no one's ever told me about it. Maybe just switching meds will help.

scamper
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   Posted 4/5/2007 10:18 AM (GMT -6)   
hi, I never had any test problems with welchol all the years I took it,, today, I so far feel a bit constipated,,after taking caltrate and 2 welchol with dinner last night,,will cut back to one..
I just feel that my liver is still reacting to the GB surgury,,,hope so!
thanks,,

scamper
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   Posted 4/11/2007 5:36 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi,,just wanted to let you all know the welchol and caltrate D has keep away the diarrehea,,thank you for this info,,,I am so grateful. I am also happy that as today,,my liver function tests are normal,,,I paid for a test to see if they were improving and am thinking the milk thistle has helped alot..

Keriamon
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   Posted 4/12/2007 1:25 PM (GMT -6)   
YEA!!! Either you had a false positive or the Questran was doing something funky, but it doesn't matter now since the Welchol works just as well. Isn't it great to just be NORMAL? :-D :-D :-D

scamper
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   Posted 4/12/2007 2:06 PM (GMT -6)   
oh yes, it is great to be back to normal,, I expect depending on my meals that problems will arise from time to time,,but I travel on the road alot with my job and this is such a blessing..learned more from you good people than my doctor, but lately this seems to be the case..if you want to get better you DO the research..thanks again,,

crazywildfly
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   Posted 5/13/2012 3:35 AM (GMT -6)   
I know this is an old thread but I'm hoping someone still checks it and can help me. I had my gallbladder taken out at the end of June 2011. I had 2 months of normalcy and since then, no matter what I eat I have instant D. I have these 'ghost' gallbladder attacks, I mean they feel just like an attack but there is not gallbladder there. I'm a prisoner in my home. Literally. I only leave home for Dr appointments due to a history of migraines and one that has been with me now for over 2 months that I receive infusions for. The D has me severely dehydrated so much that I have hardly any energy to to more than sip water and forget about food. That's a slim fast shake every few days. I'm at my wits end. Frustrated, angry and feeling so alone. Any ideas? Anyone?

crampygrammy
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   Posted 5/14/2012 12:28 PM (GMT -6)   
Sorry you are going through awful diarrhea after every meal. It is true that diarrhea can get worse after ones gallbladder is removed; but there are medications (like cholestrymine) that have been helpful to many.
I know all too well what it is like to be a slave to the bathroom. I know where every public bathroom in town is located.
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