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astral
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   Posted 6/4/2007 2:02 PM (GMT -6)   
Has anyone had involuntary vomiting with the cramping of IBS ?

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   Posted 6/4/2007 2:13 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi astral, Welcome to Healing Well :-)

Many times I have sat on the toilet with a trashcan in front of me when the cramps get so bad. Its not uncommon and nausea and vomiting can happen with IBS especially when its accompianied by cramping. Make sure when you feel like this to avoid eating too much as the digestion process will tend to aggravate it. Make sure you are drinking plenty of fluids (after a couple of hours after vomiting) to avoid getting dehydrated.

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   Posted 6/4/2007 3:34 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi astral,

A big Welcome from me too! :-)

Consistent vomiting with IBS should be looked in to. Have you seen a GI doc?
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astral
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   Posted 6/5/2007 5:07 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks so much for the information. I am really glad someone else has experienced vomiting with IBS cramps.. I really is a scarry and painful experience.

I have seen a GI doctor and i did have a colonoscopy. They found that I have an extra loop in my colon, but has nothing to do with the pain and constipation and vomiting.

I guess my next step is to find some medication for the pain associated with this.

I have been dealing with this since I was 15, many years ago. I started with colitis, etc.

Thanks again for the responses.

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   Posted 6/5/2007 5:54 PM (GMT -6)   
Vomiting is not very common with IBS, although the pain can get so bad that some people do become sick. The gall bladder should always be checked in these cases as vomiting is a common side effect of it, along with bowel problems and intense pain. You should also have an endoscopy and biopsy to check for ulcers/h.pylori bacteria and acid reflux damage, as these things can also cause vomiting and pain, and sometimes bowel problems in their own right (your bowel problems can also be independent of any stomach problems).

astral
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   Posted 6/5/2007 6:09 PM (GMT -6)   
I do have gerd as well as IBS but it seems that only when the cramps associated with IBS and movements are bad is when I have this involuntary type of vomiting.

Skjura
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   Posted 6/6/2007 1:00 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi,
 
I'm a newbie, just wanted to pop in and say hello to you guys!

cool

So would I like to answer the vomit topic. I have been seeing some doctors the latest 3 years. They told me that I probably had IBS. During every visit I asked if vomiting is a symptom too, but they always ignored the question. You see, my problem is cramps and vomiting for may be 6-10 hours each time I get sick. I also periodically have some diarrhea, this alters with soft stool, hard stool and constipation. Every time I have this vomiting experience I am freezing so much my teeth are clappering. I also have a little fever now and then. There is also a lot of gaz after a meal. When I vomit I often do it after a dinner meal, and it looks like brocolli and some other vegetables (for inst. bambooshots) makes me vomit. I am often extremely tired, and have waaay too low iron levels.

eyes Finally a doctor sent me to gastroscopy, colonoscopy and x-ray with barium. Now the GI says it could be Crohns. Next week I am going to have a MR and meet a spesialist.
 
mad  t's a shame that I have used more than 3 years trying to tell different doctors about my symptoms and they haven't even written the informations I gave them in my papers. I got a copy, and there isn't a word about all the vomiting, cramps, freezing and fever. All those are typical Crohns disease!
 
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   Posted 6/6/2007 1:17 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Skjura,
Welcome to HealingWell!!! :-)
I feel you on the lack of communication and compassion with the docs... Many times my symptoms and questions got overlooked. Sometimes I'm torn if I think they just don't care, or if they're just too busy to look at everything. That's why I took it upon myself to see several doctors; I was determined to find one that would listen. It seems, however, you are on the right track. It is so important to get scoped and see a specialist. Good luck with your diagnosis and please keep us posted. If it does turn out to be Crohn's please don't hesitate to visit our Crohn's forum. They have some wonderful people over there.
Good luck!

BTW - There an Ulcerative Colitis board too.


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Skjura
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   Posted 6/8/2007 9:30 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi again,
thanx a lot 7Lil. Yes, i've just been registrating myself at the Crohn's forum. May be it's a bit early to do that, or may be not :-), the thing is, as I wrote, the doctors haven't finished diagnosing me, but so far they've found a narrowing in the small intestine, and they've also found quite high levels in a fecal test. These levels says something about the grade / amount of the inflamation that's going on, and the levels are quite elevated as well. They are at least 10x more than normal levels in a healthy person.
They haven't scoped me yet, the last scope I had was almost a year ago, and the colon was normal then.
They won't let me have a capsule endoscopy, and I really understand why- so I hope the MR is as effective as a c.e.
Looking forward to find out something, and since I'm such an optimist I think they will dx me with IBS.
Have a nice day:-)

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   Posted 6/8/2007 11:35 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Skjura, They may not want to do the CE because of the narrowing in your small intestine. In rare cases, the capsule can get stuck and they would have to perform emergency surgery to remove it. Good luck with the MR.

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   Posted 6/8/2007 12:04 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Skjura,
Good luck with the MR. Please keep us posted on the outcome. We will be keeping our fingers crossed that you do NOT come back with an IBD diagnosis... we hope it is "just IBS."  tongue
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Skjura
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   Posted 6/8/2007 4:26 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi dbab and 7Lil!

Thank u both, nice that u'll crossing fingers for me, well, 7Lil, I know IBS could be tough enough, so it's not a "just" I think, have learned a lot about it while reading in here, and this makes me often think that may be this is my problems, they have some similiar expressions with CD.

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gutache
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   Posted 3/17/2009 12:27 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Skjura,

I came across your questions about vomiting and IBS, and this one from you really struck a chord with me:

"... You see, my problem is cramps and vomiting for may be 6-10 hours each time I get sick. I also periodically have some diarrhea, this alters with soft stool, hard stool and constipation. Every time I have this vomiting experience I am freezing so much my teeth are clappering. I also have a little fever now and then. There is also a lot of gaz after a meal. When I vomit I often do it after a dinner meal, and it looks like brocolli and some other vegetables (for inst. bambooshots) makes me vomit. I am often extremely tired, and have waaay too low iron levels."

I have exactly the same issues as you do, right down to the bamboo sprouts! In the past I believed that my episodes were the result of stress or high acidity foods (such as tomato, alcohol, chocolate, sweets), and fat of course. However I often get sick after eating eggs, and last night, bamboo sprouts! One other thing that is emerging as a trigger is bodywork such as acupuncture or massage. These therapies stimulate the release of toxins from tissues into the intestines where they can be eliminated. This is the good news, however if I don't drink a ton of water after a treatment I can get very sick. I've also found that it usually takes a combination of several triggers before I get sick. Such as eating the wrong food on the same day as a treatment. Or drinking alcohol during a stress episode.

My doctor says I have IBS but after reading many of these posts, it doesn't seem that vomiting frequently is a typical symptom. I have heard that eggs can upset the gall bladder. My doc did check my gall bladder and liver but I wonder if I need a more thorough examination of that possibility.

I hope you have found some answers and relief now that 2 years have passed.
Thank you!

"gutache"

OUCH_IBS
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   Posted 2/27/2011 2:35 AM (GMT -6)   
Lol they have smilies. I was diagnosed with IBS when i was younger. I had a bad diet of eating greasy food and spicy hot food. The doctor told me to take gasx before having a greasy or spicy hot meal. It worked but i took too much of it and i don't think its working as well as before. When i had an IBS episode i got really bad cramps and sometimes vomited. But once i've gone to the bathroom and pooped (sorry couldn't find another way to say it) that was it it would go away. I either have to vomit or poop (again sorry) and it was over. But tonight i had a burger and took three get tablets of gasx. I already threw up and pooped but im still getting cramps. Would taking pepto bismol help? or make it worst? I haven't had it in a while. Also has anyone seen the IBS kit i don't remember what its called at like CVS or RiteAid? Can anxiety cause IBS?

Im glad i found this. :) Thank You!

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   Posted 2/27/2011 2:32 PM (GMT -6)   
OUCH_IBS, Anxiety contributes to IBS.

I would not take a lot of pepto, but it might help some once in a while.

The vomiting is from pain? Because it is a red flag symptom. But can happen to some, but rare.

Not sure what the IBS kit is your talking about here.

How long has it been since your were diagnosed and have seen a doctor?
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   Posted 2/27/2011 4:57 PM (GMT -6)   
I don't remember how old i was, but its been a while. Im going to see my doctor this week. I don't think the vomiting is from pain. I either have to vomit or do the other business and its been a long time since i've had to thrown up. Last night i threw up and then i uh did the other fun part and after that its when the pain went away. The kit i saw at a Rite Aid and i have to ask my doctor if i can take it since i take other meds. When you were diagnosed did the doctor tell you about taking gas?
And what do you do for the pain once you get it?

Here's a goggle link to the IBS kit, its not exactly the one i saw but its similar.
http://www.amazon.com/I-B-S-Kit-Irritable-Bowel-Brand/dp/B0002DU3JI

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   Posted 2/27/2011 5:25 PM (GMT -6)   
Its good your seeing your doctor.

"When you were diagnosed did the doctor tell you about taking gas? "

Gas X or something?

I developed IBS from Post Infectious IBS in Mexico when I was 10 and am now 50.

I would ask the doctor about the Kit. Its basically a herbal formula, some of these things can help and some not so much.

Sometimes its also better to try one thing at a time and see what works.

I can extremely severe pain. I use to get it around four times a week and sometimes twice a day. It can last for 15 minutes up to the whole day.

Hypnotherapy for IBS helped me immensely with pain and coping with it.

When I first did it I went from all those attacks a week to one a year, but that has changed again after 6 years and I was having some problems recently with it. But I use relaxation techniques to calm the brain gut axis, mainly hypnotherapy. My IBS pain can stop everything I am doing to the point of not being able to move almost at all.

But I have learned a ton about dealing with it, from research to practical issues.

I also take a med for high blood pressure, but its also being used off label for my IBS. Its can calm the nervous systems down.
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   Posted 2/27/2011 9:12 PM (GMT -6)   
Im trying to remember and she told me to take gasx three times a day and at night. but im not sure if she did. so i take GAsX every time im going to eat something spicy or greasy. I take like three to four pills, just because i don't want to risk it and get IBS in the car or bus. Could i have a stone? Im so afraid of that. My mom had gallbladder removed. i don't think im making sense anymore. but yeah.

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   Posted 2/28/2011 2:30 PM (GMT -6)   
Some people have IBS and are misdiagnosed and get there gallbladder out.

There is a "specific cluster of IBS symptoms minus red flag symptoms that lead to a IBS diagnoses. Although, this also doesn't mean a person can have more then one thing going on at a time.

This is why its important to work with the right doctor as well.

Have you ever heard of the rome criteria?
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   Posted 2/28/2011 2:57 PM (GMT -6)   
Yeah. I rememer my mom telling me she understand what i go thru with ibs cramping and pains. No i haven't heard of that.

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   Posted 2/28/2011 3:25 PM (GMT -6)   
The Rome criteria are used to diagnose Functional gi conditions. You should look at this?

http://romecriteria.org/rome_III_gastro/

Functional bowel disorders

IBS

http://romecriteria.org/pdfs/p1480FBDs.pdf

IBS is a specific condition.



Irritable Bowel Syndrome
Diagnostic criterion* Rome lll

Recurrent abdominal pain or discomfort** at least 3 days/month in the last
3 months associated with two or more of the following:
1. Improvement with defecation
2. Onset associated with a change in frequency of stool
3. Onset associated with a change in form (appearance) of stool
* Criterion fulfilled for the last 3 months with symptom onset
at least 6 months prior to diagnosis
* “Discomfort” means an uncomfortable sensation not described as pain.
In pathophysiology research and clinical trials, a pain/discomfort frequency of at least
2 days a week during screening evaluation is recommended for subject eligibility.



The Rome Foundation is an independent not for profit 501(c) 3 organization that provides support for activities designed to create scientific data and educational information to assist in the diagnosis and treatment of functional gastrointestinal disorders (FGIDs). Our mission is to improve the lives of people with functional GI disorders.

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   Posted 4/18/2011 7:40 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi,

I am 40 years old male who has suffered from IBS for 20 years. I usually get 1 or 2 episodes per year. I get exactly the same symptoms as OUCH_IBS. Usually the pain will start slowly and get worse in minutes and I start to sweat heavily, as the pain gets worse I vomit most of the time. After vomiting & bowel movement I start to get relief from the extreme pain. I have also noticed that my episodes come usually at night. last one I had was year ago and I woke up in the middle of the night and rushed to the washroom. The pain was extreme that I was close to pass out but after vomiting and bowel movement, I was ok.

I am glad to find this forum with alot of folks experiencing the same symptoms as mine. I am just wondering if anyone is suffering from anxiety. I do suffer from anxiety occasionally as well.

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   Posted 4/18/2011 7:50 PM (GMT -6)   
Here is link from Doctor Mark HayMan in which has helped alot of people with IBS

http://drhyman.com/5-simple-steps-to-cure-ibs-without-drugs-2226/

You can also access the video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_S8YX6PY6s

I thought this would help some of the folks here

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   Posted 4/19/2011 12:32 PM (GMT -6)   
There are some major problems with Dr Mark HayMan's comments on IBS.

First they don't know the exact causes. Second he has on there its caused by SIBO and that is a problem and old news.

Second by food allergies and that has already been ruled out. Foods and sibo don't cause IBS, so that information is in error.

He is also using very dated information on that info page.
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   Posted 4/19/2011 12:33 PM (GMT -6)   
anxiety can make you nausous.

Vomiting is a "red flag" symptom in IBS.
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