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goddess0728
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   Posted 6/13/2007 2:04 PM (GMT -6)   
I hope this is not a repeat question, I did a search on this site but didn't find anything so please bear with me.

I just want to know if any other women find that their IBS symptoms worsen during or before menstruation. I am on my second day and last night I had such an episode of D that I wanted to die. Intense cramping, several "rushes" of D and then for the first time I vomited a small amount. Usually I get nauseous if I have a very bad bout of cramping but never before have I actually vomited. Yuck. Then the chills and intense fatigue. My husband was freaking out a bit as I was doing my "oh GAWDDDDDDD" in the bathroom.

Do any other women find their symptoms change for the better or worse around their periods?

Guys forgive my female questions..:)

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   Posted 6/13/2007 2:22 PM (GMT -6)   
Oh YES!! I am prodomintaely C sufferer however I ALWAYS get D during the time of the month. The cramping is horrible and it radiates to my back. I'm constantly switching the heating pad back and forth between my front and back (I just need to get a second one). I do get nauseaus too and have vomited from the cramping but that is once in a blue moon. I also get headaches and dizzy spells. Thiamine was mentioned to me before and I always forget about it when I'm in the drugstore. It supposedly helps relieve the pain of menstrual cramps (make sure you check with your doc if you decide to try it).
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shadowfax
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   Posted 6/13/2007 2:22 PM (GMT -6)   
HECK YEAH. I just had my period and it was so unfun.

When you're menstruating, your body is pumping out hormones to help slough the uterine lining, which is the cause of cramping. I'm guessing that hormone is also irritating your gut too. I've always had a release (aka D) during my period...it's like my whole abdominal area is swollen and sore and generally pissed off.

I found that if I have a hint of cramps, I take Advil immediately to prevent a bad episode of cramps. Sometimes, if I take Advil in the midst of them, I'm a gonner and no amount of pain reliever will help. I get nausea and the cramps get so bad, my FEET cramp. Gotta jump on em quickly.

I'm sure you've heard the things to avoid before your period: salt, chocolate, caffeine. I've heard vitamin E is good for this too.

I hope that helps. You're definitely not alone!

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   Posted 6/13/2007 2:40 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi goddess,
Don't worry about repeating a question... If you don't see it in the recent history then ask away.  tongue
 
YES, I am in the same boat as all you other ladies.  Cramps, cramps, and more cramps.  I get D, nausea, loss of appetite, and more cramps.  Like shadow, I take Advil at the first sign of pain.  If nothing happens after an hour then I take more.  I also drink lots of tea and keep a heating pad on hand.  Sucks because now with the hot weather who can stand the heating pad?  skull    Taking a bath, exercising, and reducing stress is good for cramps.  Having sex and orgasming is great to reduce cramps (they don't have to go hand in hand).  I also read once that zinc, vitamin B, and calcium help reduce cramps (check with your doc or pharmacist before adding supplements).  I think that's all I can remember at the moment.
Usually the first day or 2 are the worst, I hope you're feeling better today....
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goddess0728
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   Posted 6/13/2007 3:15 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks to you ALL

Yes 7Lil the first 2 days are always the worst! Sometimes at the very end of it I'll get another small bout of of intense D but nothing like today and yesterday.


Thanks Shadowfax and Dbab, I'm going to try your suggestions and ask the doc about the thiamin.

This may be slightly off topic but I have found a way to help the cramping when you are straining over D....I read this somewhere and was like "yeah right" but I did try it, and it does help me. I find that raising my feet by resting them on something (I use two 4 inch books) when I am on the toilet straining with the D, it helps relieve it a little, or at least makes it so I can stand it. Supposedly it relaxes the pelvic floor.

Anyhow, since so many here have helped me already, wanted to share what little I can.

Thanks again all sorry you suffer as well but glad to know I'm not alone.

dbab
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   Posted 6/13/2007 3:20 PM (GMT -6)   
Wow... may be another good reason to try Thiamine (especially where I live)... excerpt from Wickapedia:

Thiamine as an insect repellent
Some studies suggest that taking thiamine (vitamin B1) 25 mg to 50 mg three times per day is effective in reducing mosquito bites. A large intake of Thiamine produces a skin odor that is not detectable by humans, but is disagreeable to female mosquitoes.[6] Thiamine takes more than 2 weeks before the odor fully saturates the skin. With the advances in topical preparations there is an increasing number of Thiamine based repellent products. Whilst there is considerable anecdotal evidence of Thiamine products being effective in the field (Australia, US and Canada), there has yet to be any clinical trials run to demonstrate the efficacy of these products.
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Keriamon
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   Posted 6/13/2007 3:35 PM (GMT -6)   
I don't know if you can or want to be on birth control, but the FDA just approved a continuous dose birth control pill which will eliminate your periods. I am on Depo Provera (injection) which also keeps me from having periods. Since my hormones stay steady, I don't get PMS or menstural-related bowel problems.

Of course, all BC comes with some chance of side effects, Depo Provera's being bone loss. But BC also reduces your chance of ovarian cancer, which, seeing how my father's sister has had that, between the cancer and the osteoporsis, I'm taking my chances with the osteoporosis. The pill's usual major drawback is a slight increase in chance of breast cancer, which is something to think about if that's in your family, and the patch (I don't know if they have a no-period version of that yet) increases your chance of blood clots. So I feel I'm on the least dangerous option.

Not only do I not have monthly bowel problems, I feel it's best that my ovaries and uterus don't work, as my mother and her sister both developed very severe ovarian and uterine problems, and my mother had a hysterectomy at about 31, with her ovaries out at 41, with her sister getting a full hysterectomy at about 29. So, the less they work, the less trouble they can cause, given my bad genetics!

Lil (I think it was--correct me if I'm wrong) did find, though, that her BC pill (not a continuous one) made her bowel movements even worse during her period than if she wasn't on the pill. While not having a period at all should eliminate that problem, it is a possibility that the hormones, even without a period, may make you worse.

ruffwood
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   Posted 6/14/2007 7:34 AM (GMT -6)   

Hi there hon, I am so sorry to hear you suffer so much .... To cut a long story short...been there, done that...and bought the t shirt!!!!

For the tummy cramps and associated ibs, take a product called BUSCOPAN ( god I wish someone had told me 20 years ago!!!) its technical name is hyoscine Butylbromide.  It can be purchased over the counter, here in Aust anyway.  Believe me when I say, this product actually works.  That dreadful feeling that you get when your legs belong to someone else and you feel like a total bowel evacuation is only the beginning......yep!!!...how much fun is it being a woman...lol. yeah .sounds a bit pedantic, but I also used to take a hot pack to bed and put it on my back or tummy, that definately helps and for during the day, a chinese product :" Salon Pas" or Tokuhon Plasters, placed in the small of my back or over my ovarian area, gave such relief.....whatever works...try it...best of luck. cool

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dbab
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   Posted 6/14/2007 8:26 AM (GMT -6)   
ruffwood, I'm not sure what you mean by "absolute CRAP information people give you". I sure hope I'm misunderstanding and not refering to the responses made by our members. This is a site about sharing individual experiences and its up to the person to take it or leave it. Putting down others views and experiences will NOT be tolerated here.

I am not sure where goddess is located but Buscopan is not available in the US where I am however there are different medications that are very similar. These are called antispasmodics (ex. Bentyl, Levsin, etc (there are many!)) I have tried my antispasmodics for my cramping but it just barely takes the edge off for me. It would be nice if there was one cure all for everyone, then we wouldn't need this website but we are here for support, offer what we can, and hope that people get better.
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goddess0728
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   Posted 6/14/2007 8:39 AM (GMT -6)   
keriamom

Thanks for the info on birth control. I actually had my tubes tied about 10 yrs ago because I had so much trouble with birth control pills and I don't want children. The irony is that last year the docs wanted to put me on birth control pills to help my fibroids (smack head with hand!).

dbab: I am in the US. Read up a little on the buscopan and yes it seems the same as the Bentyl I am trying (anti-spasmodic). Thanks for the clarification, so glad you guys are here!

Today is a little better I just hate having to go to the bathroom at work so often. I work at a great place and they don't care but sheesh it feels like I'm in there every 10 mins! Between the period and IBS....maybe I should move my desk in there ....have to try to keep my sense of humor :)

Also I appreciate 7lil suggesting the heating pad. Sometimes the littlest thing helps and I hadn't thought of a htg pad. I'm going to try it, even tho, yes I live in the hot hot south!

Post Edited (goddess0728) : 6/14/2007 8:55:41 AM (GMT-6)


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   Posted 6/14/2007 9:08 AM (GMT -6)   
Ruffwood,
I deleted your rude post and edited the other. We do not appreciate you coming on here and calling our replies crap.

You will be edited if you can't play nice.


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   Posted 6/14/2007 9:28 AM (GMT -6)   
Crikey,

Where could we possibly start with such a barrage of abuse??? OK, firstly allow me to take this opportunity to welcome you to HealingWell, this is probably the best website there is for offering support, advice or just being a shoulder to cry on. There are several reasons why people come here allow me to list those reasons:

1. Those that are recently diagnosed with IBS.
2. Those that have a family member or friend with IBS.
3. Those working or studying in the medical profession.
4. Those attempting to advertise.
5. Those fooling about and have nothing better to do than cause as much disruption as possible without a thought for any damage inflicted on others.

As moderators are all volunteers on here and usually suffering with the illness relevant to the forum there are certain editing rights/privilages and rules specifically to allow moderators to carry out their duties without people disrespecting them, these include the following:

a. The right to edit posts.
b. The right to delete others posts.
c. Rule 13.

At this time I am totally confused why you are here, but make no mistake I will not allow you or anyone else to contravene rule No. 13 or any others.

I have attached a link to the forum rules as well as deleted your replies. I suggest you read the rules, you can even print them out if you wish, if you don’t agree with them don’t bother coming back to this forum, because if you do and I see you have contravened any of the forum rules I will simply delete your work which will mean you have sat and typed for however long!

At this time I am not recommending your account gets locked, I will allow you the benefit of the doubt, however make no mistake, your account will be locked should there be any repeat violations from you! Furthermore, every Moderator has been informed of your presence with the instruction to monitor your posts.

Don’t hesitate to hit the alert an admin icon and make any complaint regarding my reply to you.

Take care.

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7Lil
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   Posted 6/14/2007 9:38 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi goddess,
I'm glad you can keep your sense of humor about this. LOL   tongue   When I'm having a bad day at work I try to do the same thing... I walk by my friends at work and and say "Here I go again... anyone wanna come?" People giggle and give me the sympathetic look. Of course they never come with me! I have a shy sphincter anyway... I try to look for empty bathrooms. Anyway, enough about me! I'm glad you are going to try the heating pad. I keep 1 at work and 1 at home, and they sure do come in handy.
Have you had a chance yet to try the Bentyl?


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goddess0728
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   Posted 6/14/2007 9:49 AM (GMT -6)   
Shy Spincters unite !! LOL

I have that problem a little here, not as bad as other places, I just wish the bathroom was down a long lonnnnnnnnggg hallway with soundproofing. Surrounded by concrete blocks. With guard dogs. And motion sensors so I know when someone is walking by. devil

I also have a great co-worker, who although she doesn't have IBS, has a lot of symptoms like it when she is having her period. So we joke about wrestling for the bathroom. It all helps..like all of you here, I am so glad I found this site!

Just started on the Bentyl today, will keep you updated.

Thanks for the humor! :-)
I have 2 herniated cervical discs, a digestive system that seems to hate me, fibroids and a bad knee, but I'm also lucky enough to have a sweet husband and 4 loving cats that help me through it all.


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   Posted 6/14/2007 9:54 AM (GMT -6)   
goddess0728 said...
I just wish the bathroom was down a long lonnnnnnnnggg hallway with soundproofing. Surrounded by concrete blocks. With guard dogs. And motion sensors so I know when someone is walking by. devil
Love it!!  I always have had this problem.  In fact, everywhere I have worked, I made it a habit to scope out the facilities for the hidden bathrooms that often are forgotten about (if you know what I mean :-)
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christycheri924
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   Posted 6/14/2007 11:06 AM (GMT -6)   
Wow...I actually have IBS-C (well I consider it more like slow transit C) and it seems to get worse during that my period...only occassionally do I get D, but mostly I have to take in more fiber and water than humanly recommended to not be in constant pain from C.

goddess0728
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   Posted 6/14/2007 11:25 AM (GMT -6)   
So even C dominant has exacerbated symptoms during that time?! Wow that's interesting because I thought it might be sloughing off hormones, as shadowfax mentioned, that cause the urgency of the D to worsen but even c worsens!

thanks for the input christycheri924

Sheesh us women are so LUCKY skull

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   Posted 6/14/2007 12:07 PM (GMT -6)   
Goddess, BC has changed a lot in 10 years, so you might now be able to find something that you can tolerate, both to try and help with the IBS and the fybroid tumors. The continual-use stuff is very low dose, but even some of the non-continual use pills are pretty low. Definitely a LOT lower than 10 years ago.

I've had my tubes tied too, just to be on the safe side; I don't want children either.

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   Posted 6/14/2007 1:00 PM (GMT -6)   
soooooo much worse when I have my period. Either get 'the runs' or constipated and I get awful shooting pains up my bottom! Isn't it lovely what we talk about!!!

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   Posted 7/6/2007 7:14 PM (GMT -6)   
I was reading all the posts about finding a "safe" bathroom at work and wanted to share a funny story.  I have worked at my company for 9 years now and most people there know about my IBS and are sympathetic.  Recently our company changed hands and life was a little scarry.  After a few months we found out new CEO was a really nice man and has brought great things to our company.  I work directly for him and wasn't excited having to tell him why I go running out of the office at times.  I always try to play it off as a joke because the nearest bathroom is like a 1/2 mile away so I tell him I have to start out early so I make it.  He has a private bathroom which he offers to let me use but.....I don't think so, it is attached to his office...yikes!
 
about 3 months ago we were informed we were moving.  We were all very excited about a new building and new technology.  We were talking one day and he was asking me what kind of new furniture I wanted, chair etc.  I replied that I would happily use old furniture if he would just put bathrooms evenly through the building.  After we took over the building 4 or 5 of us working in the project move team toured the building.  After walking the area my CEO said this is going to be your new work area, I looked up and like 3 giant steps away was the private executive bathroom.  I actually did a little dance right there on the spot.  Needless to say I got a few strange looks  but I don't care, I have never been so happy.
 
We moved in a week ago and while life is a little stressfull getting settled I don't have to run a 1/2 mile when that feeling hits.  Who would of ever thought such a thing would make me so happy. :-)
 

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   Posted 7/6/2007 8:16 PM (GMT -6)   
I too have worse symptoms with my period. In fact, Im battling them now! I usually will be roughly regular on constipated most of the time and then get awful cramping and a big release within 24hrs of my period starting. Sometimes I will get it during the first 24-48hrs. My period cramping I control with 4 Motrin every 6hrs. My gyno told me to start a wk prior to my period or when I get the first twinge of a symptom. That is a lot of Motrin, so I admit I take as little as I can. For the IBS cramping I use .375 of Levsin, but am thinking of asking for a bit higher dose. It works for the most part, but still. Exercise, heating pads, orgasms and deep breathing can all help. Drink lots of water. I also fight horrible anxiety when I get an attack. I fear Im going to throw up which I am petrified of. I am working hard to overcome this and have a postive attitude. If there is one thing Ive learned tensing up and panicking only make it worse. Also, a positive attitude and mindset go a long way. Though it is hard sometimes as we all know. wish me luck as I struggle alone this evening. Its hard. Email me if you want to talk or find me AOL fluffycubes@yahoo.com screen name fluffycubes. sleep well all
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   Posted 8/27/2010 1:31 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi,

In regards to the birth control tablets I found that the usual pill(3 weeks on, one week off) made my periods and IBS a lot more intense. However the mini pill/continuous pill is great! I used to dread my period, especially the first day-I would feel so sick, and this would only be relieved by visiting the toilet. This meant that I was unable to plan much for around the days of my period, affecting my social life considerably.

If you experience this too, I would really recommend the mini pill, the disadvantages(in my experience) being that it must be taken at roughly the same time each day, also without a period it can be harder to become aware of a pregnancy. The more I think about it, it seems that IBS may in part be linked to sex hormones, which can also cause changes in stress levels- another commonly believed trigger.

I would say that I still very occasionally get symptoms in the evenings, where I feel very bloated/gaseous, but this is a lot less intense and for the most part not a problem.

Other than that, chewing slowly, less dairy, maybe less gluten, leaving time to digest...
Hope this helps.

Marsky
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   Posted 8/27/2010 5:10 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi there - past the period stage, thank goodness, but just wanted to say long before I had IBS and my colon resections, etc. I had D or close to it, the day before my period would start. I always knew when it was coming because I would suddenly have cramping and very loose stools. My body wouldn't rid itself of all stool but close to it. This was all during the dark ages - lol - ie, no internet. But I did ask a few friends who said yes they experienced this. Later, before my first baby was born I experienced loose stools a day before I went into labor. For my second and last child (1990), they gave me an enema before they prepped me for delivery. Saying - let's speed along what nature is going to do anyway.

So yes hormones play a huge part in IBS. Now that I am no longer having periods, some months it's almost as if I am still releasing the hormone you would for a period, I still have the loose stool stage, that comes out of the blue. Once or so a month. I don't think that's a coincidence either!

Finally, I just have to say this - you men, have it made in the shade!
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   Posted 8/27/2010 1:42 PM (GMT -6)   
This is some info on women and IBS and Menses, as well as some other info.
 
Evidence for Exacerbation of Irritable Bowel Syndrome During Menses
 
http://www.mindbodydigestive.com/mbdc/women-and-ibs/#84
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   Posted 10/18/2010 8:12 AM (GMT -6)   
My name is Kelsey, I am 21 years old, and I have been having IBS symptoms since I was 13. I was diagnosed with severe IBS at the age of 15 and have been hospitalized for it, many times. I also used to have very long menstruation cycles but was advised by my doctor to go on Birth control when I was 16 to adjust my period, which it did, but in turn I received very strong cramps for the first two days. Now I have noticed over the past few years that yes on my first two days of my period that my IBS acts up, very badly. Yesterday, I fainted in the grocery store because of the immense pain. I have been to doctors many times, but they have yet to give me anything other than advil, or laxatives. Nothing helps. I sat in my bed all day and cried because I just could not function afterwards. I hate this, and I hate being so young and having such a problem that affects my daily life so badly, I am at work today, minus the crippling pain, and my boyfriend has no idea how to react or what to do when this happens, I just don't understand it and I wish he could understand it at as well. The fact that no doctor has been able to help, just infuriates me even more. If someone knows of anything to help with the pain, I just cannot take it anymore, I dislike of course the constant trips to the bathroom, but it's just the excrutiating pain I cannot handle, I'm at my lengths end with this, and I just don't know what to do anymore.
 
 
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