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gutastrophe
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   Posted 7/7/2007 12:28 AM (GMT -7)   
Greetings!  I've been lurking for a few days and I've read the rules and guidelines but I haven't been able to discern if a poster is allowed to suggest alternative therapies or provide links to alternative therapies and products.  So before I get myself into trouble with my first post I want to be sure! yeah Thanks!

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   Posted 7/7/2007 1:40 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi gutastrophe,
Welcome to HealingWell!  :-)
Thank you for reading the Forum Rules and checking before posting.
 
You pose a tricky question... It really depends what kind of vibe we get from your post.  If we feel you're advertising and have a vested interest in the product and/or site, you will be edited.  If you continue to spam, your account will be locked.  Also, it depends what you're sharing... If you have helpful hints, that is fine; if you're trying to sell us a product, that is advertising and goes against Rule #4:
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gutastrophe
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   Posted 7/7/2007 12:32 PM (GMT -7)   

I am definately not a salesperson!  I am a fellow sufferer who has been "experimenting" with treatments for 20 years.  Some of them have been disasters and some successes. 

I searched the threads for one treatment in particular and found nothing about it.  As someone who has switched back and forth between IBS-D and C, with prolonged C as the predominent characteristic, I have found that colonhydorotherapy has been unbelievable helpful when dealing with extended bouts of constipation.  I did not see any refernces to this treatment and wondered if there was a reason.  While I saw discussions about enemas in general, I wondered if anyone had tried this therapy for extreme constipation.  It was profoundly helpful for me.

 

Thanks for the welcome and the quick reply!


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   Posted 7/7/2007 12:39 PM (GMT -7)   
Metamucil has been a great help to me...............
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7Lil
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   Posted 7/7/2007 2:19 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi guts,
What exactly is colonhydroptherapy? Is it like a cleanse? Doctors don't usually condone those, nor have we (peeps here on the site) found them to be helpful. Yes, cleansing might help short term... But it hasn't helped anyone long term. If anything it might hurt because not only is all the bad bacteria flushed out, so is the good bacteria we need for proper digestion. Not to mention they could become addicting.


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gutastrophe
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   Posted 7/7/2007 8:59 PM (GMT -7)   

Thanks for the question!

No, it is not like a "cleanse".  It's basically what my grandma used to call a "high colonic".  It's an enema that is administered by a colonhydrotherapist but it reaches far higher than any enema one can do on one's own.  It is not at all painful and very, very beneficial to folks who have experienced long term constipation, where the stool has become so hard that it can't be passed with regular laxatives.  It was recommended to me by my GI guy (best in the city, of course!) because I was suffering with an impacted colon which needed to be emptied before my last colonoscopy.

Most large cities have clinics with trained professionals and the equipment to do this treatment.  I can only say that it was a completely pain free experience and that after the procedure I probably felt better than I had in 25 years. 

Here is a link to one of our local clinics which gives an excellent description of how colonics work and the benefits of the treatment.

http://www.tummytemple.com/about_colonics__hydrotherapy_s.html


7Lil
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   Posted 7/8/2007 2:40 AM (GMT -7)   
But it's not a long term solution is it? It won't prevent you from having future impactions? I just don't see how people with chronic constipation can use this practically. Don't get me wrong, I think it's fine prior to being scoped or in emergency cases, but I just don't see it solving the constipation problem.
I do appreciate your input and opinion though... That is what this site is all about. Thank you for sharing.
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gutastrophe
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   Posted 7/8/2007 9:47 AM (GMT -7)   
Any treatment like this (even at-home enema or laxative) requires additional therapies such as fiber supplements, probiotics, etc.  Nothing, in my experience, is a long term solution.  Everything works for awhile but there is, as we know, no "cure".  However, the theory behind hydro colontherapy is that it helps "remind" the bowel of it's function by gently duplicating and provoking the natural peristaltic motion that so many of us are lacking.  The influx of a gentle water flow deep into the instestines coaxes the bowel to do what it is supposed to do on it's own.  After a few treatments, one is surprised to find that one's system is truly working as it should - for awhile.  With follow up therapies, it can be very advantageous.  And certainly for those who suffer with constipation (I saw one poster who said they had been constipated for 5 weeks!) it is a Godsend!

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   Posted 7/11/2007 7:09 PM (GMT -7)   
2 things I stand by are taking a stool bulker daily and probiotics daily as well to help with my IBS (I also suffer with crohns disease and use other alternative meds for it since I cannot tolerate the traditional oral RX for my disease).


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   Posted 7/12/2007 9:57 AM (GMT -7)   
It does sound like something helpful for people who are so constipated the laxatives and regular enemas aren't working. But how do they get the water so high up into the colon? I mean, isn't there a lot of poop backed up between the anus and there?

As with any alternative therapy (not sure if that qualifies since a GI recommended it--they won't recommend colon cleanses), the fact that someone has done it and it works (you), makes me more prone to believe in it.

gutastrophe
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   Posted 7/12/2007 9:33 PM (GMT -7)   
Keriamon said...
It does sound like something helpful for people who are so constipated the laxatives and regular enemas aren't working. But how do they get the water so high up into the colon? I mean, isn't there a lot of poop backed up between the anus and there?

As with any alternative therapy (not sure if that qualifies since a GI recommended it--they won't recommend colon cleanses), the fact that someone has done it and it works (you), makes me more prone to believe in it.
It's really not "alternative" as I am sure treatments like this are available in hospitals.  However, with our culture's interest in health and wellness, clinics which offer this therapy are available outside of the hospital environment.
 
Because the equipment used is more high-tech and sophisticated than an at home enema, the motor driven flow of water can be adjusted to reach much higher into the intestines and dislodge impacted feces that have been there for quite some time.  Here is a better description of the process

The process is simple, comfortable and is not painful. Purified water is introduced into the colon via a disposable speculum (click here for images). Light abdominal palpation dislodges toxic wastes, mucus and fecal encrustation. This is gently eliminated through the waste tube. Repeated gentle fills and releases are administered during a session which lasts approximately 45 minutes.

I've been aware of colon hydrotherapy for many years because of my involvement with the macrobiotic movement.  I had always been too intimidated and frightened of it to try until my regular old GI guy recommended it.  I really can't recommend it enough.  I have never felt as good and "normal" as I did after having these treatments.


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   Posted 3/24/2012 2:23 PM (GMT -7)   
I'm a 44 year old male who has a spinal cord injury (SCI) and I'm on a lot of pain medicines that causes constipation. Actually it's putting my colon into a coma! I also suffer from compacted bowels where I literally had to dig my way out of a crappy situation! LOL

After my last compacted bowel experience I decided to do sme research and I read about this colon hydrotherapy. I went online and saw for myself what it entails by videos people have posted on YouTube. I encourage you to go and check it out.

I have an appointment for a Colon Hyrotherapy tomorrow evening. I am very nervous, but hopeful that this may help wake up my colon or at least clean it out of over 44 years worth of decay and debri. I will let you know how it goes!

Charles

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   Posted 3/27/2012 8:53 PM (GMT -7)   
I went through with my first colon hydroTherapy! I was very nervous and even more so after seeing all the videos on YouTube. However, I quickly found out that I was all worried for nothing. Granted I didn't enjoy having the equipment n the trunk. Lol however, it wasn't so terrible and the therapist was very professional. I was amazed to see a lot of debri coming out of me.

Afterwards I felt more energized and as if I lost sme weight. I went straight home and weighed myself, but I hadn't lost a single pound! I would think that with all that came out of my colon I would have certainly lost a pound or two. My pants were slightly looser on my. Perhaps it was the power of positive thinking? Haha!

I am going back for two more appts., which is what they recommend to see better results. I was told it takes a while for all the water to break through and clear out the colon. I also learned that the colon can stretch and carry up to 50-70 or more pounds! I've gone without a bowel movement for 7-10 days before and I always wondered where it all went. I didn't skip a meal either, I ate three square meals a day and snacks in between. I was on a health spurt back then, so I was eating all the right foods...it just didn't want to come out!

I will be sure to drink a lot of water the day before my next colonic, because it's better to already have your colon hydrated. It makes it easier for the water to break through and clean everything out. I was only suppose to be on the table for 45 minutes, but ended up with an extra 15 minutes, because she couldn't stop the treatment while I was evacuating or I would make a mess on the table and not have made it to the toilet in time. I tell you, I'd rather have a colonic everyday instead of dealing with compacted bowels!

Charles
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