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shortnsweet9
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   Posted 11/6/2007 1:01 PM (GMT -7)   
Does anyone else suffer from heartburn along with their IBS?

I've suffered from heartburn here and there in the past, typically when I would eat something spicy or during PMS (not sure why). Lately though, in addition to my IBS with alternating D and C, I'm having heartburn every day. It started about a week ago with a really, really bad attack of heartburn after eating lunch. I didn't think much of it and it started to subside by that night, until I tried eating dinner, which was spaghetti. After I few bites I had to stop because it literally felt like the food was burning its way back up into my throat (if that makes sense). I thought I might throw it up, but luckily didn't. The heartburn lasted a few more hours and was almost completely gone by the morning -- except then it felt like something was stuck in my throat. I got some Rolaids and they didn't seem to help much. Since then first attack, I've had heartburn every single day. The weird part is that it's not there in the morning and I'm fine after eating breakfast. But after lunch heartburn shows up between 2:00 and 4:00 without fail. It doesn't seem to matter what I eat! I'm avoiding anything spicy, fried, or greasy. I don't typically eat much dairy anyway. I do eat a lot of chocolate but cut that out because I read it could cause heartburn. I've been sticking with chicken noodle soup and toast for lunch and I'm still getting heartburn. It tends to last for several hours. The other weird part is that if it's gone in time for dinner, I can usually eat dinner and it won't come back. I'm completely confused!

Does anyone else with IBS have heartburn? Could the two be related?

Keriamon
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   Posted 11/6/2007 1:37 PM (GMT -7)   
I always say, there's no rule you can't have two things wrong with you at once. :-(

But, luckily for you, there are meds out there to treat heartburn. However, be careful if your doctor wants to put you on the prescription stuff, like Prevacid or Nexium, as recent studies have connected long term use of them to increased bone loss in women and they increase your chance of getting a bad bacteria in your guts, like c. difficile. Some doctors are now backing off on prescribing them as a forever drug and are using them more to get a person's acid production down, then having people go to OTC stuff for a while to try and maintain.

I've had luck with Pepcid when I get heartburn sometimes. Like you, spaghetti sauce usually does me in.

You can also try eating a non-acidic snack in the afternoons around when the reflux starts. It's pretty simple: put food into the stomach to soak up the acid. Personally, I'd go for granola or a pastry--something in that line. Also, ditch caffeine and carbonated drinks if you haven't already. Caffeine's a stimulant, and you don't need more of that. And carbonation can cause gas that makes the reflux worse. Colas are also highly acidic and so bad when you are having acid problems already. And no raw fruit or fruit juices. Too acidic. about the only fruit that's not acidic are bananas, and they're not good for you if you have C, because they make it worse.

shortnsweet9
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   Posted 11/6/2007 1:54 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks Keriamon.

I know it's true you can definitely have two things wrong with you at once! I guess I just wondered if the sudden persistent presentation of heartburn might mean something. I hope it's not something that just decided to pop up and that I'll have to deal with permanently.

I'll definitely try having a snack when the heartburn starts in the afternoon. I'll have to get some crackers or something to keep at my desk, maybe even saltines would work. I don't drink anything with caffeine because I also have anxiety (you can have three things wrong with you at once!) and the caffeine makes it worse, so that's not a heartburn culprit. I can't even imagine trying to drink something carbonated with heartburn...ouch! I've been letting some gingerale go flat this week and I sip at that when I get home, but that's about the only soda I ingest. I don't eat much raw fruit either because that doesn't go over well with the IBS, but I do have OJ in the morning. Maybe I'll try going without that for a few days and see if it helps at all.

I may try something OTC for it if it persists (other than the Rolaids that haven't been helping), but I will probably make an appointment with the doctor anyway. My IBS has been acting funny lately too. I have always been a strictly IBS-D'r and lately I've been having horrific bouts of D followed by terrible C (days and days). This is not "normal" for me (funny that I consider chronic D "normal" tongue) and with the sudden presentation of heartburn I think I'd feel better getting checked out just to make sure nothing else is going on. I haven't been to my gastro in about 3 years so now might be a good time to go back.

Thanks again for the quick response. I still wonder if a lot of people with IBS also suffer with heartburn?

Canyonbabe711
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   Posted 11/6/2007 10:57 PM (GMT -7)   
Try some Gaviscon after you eat. It forms a barrier that keeps the acid from backing up. It is not necessairly the acid you are ingesting it is the stomach acid backing up that is causing the heartburn. Stay away from chocolate, mint and alcohol for a while and try the Gaviscon and see how you do. You may have causeed some irritation that will take time to heal. I take Pepcid at night and it helps but I also take a PPI in the AM as I have it very bad and need to heal. Skip the OJ for awhile and tomato sauce till you feel better. Stick with chicken, fish, white stuff like potato, rice, noodles. I am not convinced that keeping something in your stomach is the answer. That is up for debate. Anytime you have something in your stomach you are producing stomach acid which you must have for digestion. Try it both ways.

Sarita
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   Posted 11/6/2007 11:10 PM (GMT -7)   

I remember having heartburn so bad once that I had to stay home from work and was hovering over the toilet, gagging.  Ugh, that was awful.  I had it for a few days but then it went away.  Never felt anything like that before or after that one experience.

Have you been finding yourself upside-down more than recently lately?  I ask that in the most literal way.  If you've suddenly taken up yoga, for instance, you might notice a sudden onset of heartburn.  Weird but true.

What might help is taking a 14-day course of Prilosec (over the counter).  Definitely nix the OJ and spaghetti, those are killers for heartburn.  Try replacing all drinks with water for a week.  No alcohol.  Sleep with an extra pillow under your head.  All those things might help somewhat.

Best of luck and let us know how it goes!


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Keriamon
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   Posted 11/7/2007 8:47 AM (GMT -7)   
Yes on nixing the OJ. I can't have it first thing in the morning, or it can give me heartburn (and gas). You have a lot of acid on your stomach in the morning anyways, because it's been empty so long. So no acidic or greasy foods (like sausage or bacon--although turkey bacon cooked in the microwave is a good substitute, I've found) first thing. I can tolerate OJ better in the evenings.

It's weird, but oatmeal first thing in the morning gives me heatburn. Don't ask me why! In any event, keep your eyes open for foods that seem to give you heartburn or make it worse; you may find some surprising culprits.

As to being D real bad, and now having C, while that's totally not uncommon for IBSers to switch over like that, have you recently started taking a new medicine for your D, or taking more of it? I used to give myself constipation taking Imodiums, so I would cycle back and forth like that. I found that Pepto Bismol didn't give me C, so I predominately took it. I also found I can tolerate the Imodium if I cut it in half and only take a half a pill (even though the instructions say to take two!).

shortnsweet9
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   Posted 11/7/2007 10:00 AM (GMT -7)   
Yes, actually, I have been finding that the C usually occurs after I take Imodium for the D. It is a terrible cycle. I've just found that Imodium works best for controlling my D -- I like the Imodium A.D. because it also helps with gas and cramping. Pepto doesn't really do anything for D with me. Unless the D gets really out of control, I should probably just let it run its course because I'll feel much better after it's over and without the C for the next few days. I did that yesterday, and while it sucked dealing with it at work, I have to say that by last night I was happy that I just let it run its course. I skipped the OJ this morning and brought noodles for lunch, so hopefully my stomach won't rebel this afternoon because I'm supposed to go out to dinner with my BF's parents tonight! eyes

Does anyone know of any fruit juice that is easily tolerated with IBS and heartburn? I love juice in the morning but I KNOW I can't handle apple and cranberry, and apparently now OJ too. sad Is there anything else that might be OK?

Canyonbabe711
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   Posted 11/7/2007 1:24 PM (GMT -7)   
I can't think of any juice. Pear juice? I found that pre-packaged foods that we often take for lunch and add water to bother me a lot. The frozen dinner don't but think it is all the dyhyrdated stuff in the other things. It is strictly a trial and error deal. Papaya juice is supposed to help with digestion. You might look around the juice aisles in the health food store. Be sure and try the GAviscon after you eat.

shortnsweet9
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   Posted 11/7/2007 2:39 PM (GMT -7)   
I will have to look for and try the Gaviscon. Is that an OTC thing? At this point I'll try anything. I had plain noodles (that I cooked last night), crackers and water for lunch today and I still started getting heartburn around 3:00. It's so weird that it seems to show up at the same time every day, no matter what I eat. I eat breakfast and am fine all morning, I eat lunch and then BOOM 3:00 hits and it's heartburn central! I'm supposed to have dinner with my BF's parents in an hour and I'm afraid I won't be able to eat! This is frustrating...

Canyonbabe, I also find that dried pre-packaged foods are killer on my stomach. When I was in college and was eating Ramen noodle soup on a regular basis...that was when I had some of my worst symptoms ever. I try not to eat too much of the dried/frozen foods. My doc told me that all of the sodium and preservatives in them are not good for digestion. Finding a good diet for IBS truly is trial and error. I have my list of "safe" foods and those basically include baked/grilled chicken, fish, potatoes, white rice, plain pasta, toast with seedless jelly, bananas, etc. Luckily I can tolerate dairy, but never on an empty stomach. I made the mistake of having ice cream before dinner once...and boy did I learn my lesson. Hopefully now I can just figure out what's triggering this darn heartburn. It's like my body is saying "Well she outsmarted us with that IBS diet, now let's see what she can do with heartburn!"

Canyonbabe711
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   Posted 11/7/2007 3:51 PM (GMT -7)   
You may need something like Nexium to heal an erosion. Yes, Gaviscon is over the counter. It has been on the market for at least 30 years so I was really surprised when my Dr. mentioned it to me as he never had before. Evidently it sets up a barrier at the LES valve so that acid does not back up thru the valve. Some people say bananas bother their IBS. I am allergic to fresh bananas. Your diet is about the same as mine.. Take the Gaviscon about a half hour after you eat is what I was told. It is really not an acid reducer in the same vein as the other acid reducers. At least that is what I understand. I have a little problem with crackers personally. I don't digest them well, I guess. Some nice noodles with a little butter and parmesean cheese works well for me. Just eat lightly tonight and maybe take a Pepcid before.

Keriamon
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   Posted 11/7/2007 4:27 PM (GMT -7)   
One thing I do with the Imodium is to cut a pill in half and take half of it. If the D is not completely stopped in 30 minutes, I take the other half. Repeat until you stop the D. That's how I keep from taking too much and winding up with constipation the next day(s).

I also would like to be able to have juice, but have finally resolved I can't--at least not in the mornings, and not regularly. All fruit but bananas are morderately to extremely acidic, and it's the acid that does you in, and it's the juice where the acid is concentrated.

I have found that I can tolerate the mild amounts of caffeine in green tea, though. I drink 2 liters of that everyday just to have something different besides water. It's supposed to be good for you as well, and if you don't make it too bitter, you don't have to add anything to it, keeping it calorie free.

Do you sit a lot at work? Getting up and walking around for 5 minutes prior to heartburn time may help. In some people activity makes heartburn worse, but in some it can reduce it. Just don't exert yourself, or it WILL reflux. Being in a different body position and moving around a bit might help it, though.

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   Posted 11/7/2007 6:35 PM (GMT -7)   
Canyonbabe -- I will have to look for that Gaviscon. I don't think I've ever heard of it. As for bananas, I think they give some people with IBS problems because they constipate. Since I mostly have D I can eat them, as long as I am not taking Imodium the same day. I like them for the potassium because I tend to get muscle spasms and cramps in my legs. It's funny, noodles with a little butter and parmesan cheese is one of my old stand-by's! It's great because the cheese gives them a little extra flavor. This diet can be pretty limiting but lucky for me two of my favorite things in the world to eat are pasta and potatoes.

Keriamon -- You have a good idea with taking half of the Imodium at a time. I will definitely try that next time. It does stink not to be able to have juice, because I love juice. I get so sick of drinking nothing but water, sometimes I just want something with flavor! That's usually when I have some Gatorade, but even then I mix it with water because it is too sweet. I don't care for tea much so that's not really an option for me. I do sit a lot at work, I work at a computer and I'm sure I am hunched over most of the time. I will try getting up and walking around during the afternoon before the heartburn usually starts.

Thank you ladies for all of the suggestions!

shortnsweet9
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   Posted 11/7/2007 6:41 PM (GMT -7)   
Whoops I was logged in other my other name, but that's still me above. I have two names because I made one and forgot my password, then made another, then remembered the original password. LOL.

walker1
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   Posted 12/2/2007 4:56 PM (GMT -7)   
yes i would burp and have aburning pain, went to all the DR's and nothing worked so i tried the chiropacticer. he gave me barley tablets. works great.best part no side effects that i got from all the meds. from the doctors
better yet it helped my IBS no more 20 trips to the bath room evey day, even normal bowel movements, also i use relaxing tape to help with the stress.
hope this gives you another place to look for help.

Canyonbabe711
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   Posted 12/2/2007 6:33 PM (GMT -7)   
One thing to remember it it is not necessairly the acid in the food we eat that gives us heartburn it is the stomach acid that our system produces coming up thru the LES valve which is supposed to be a down valve only. Certain foods like chocolate, mint, alcohol, certain meds like Calcium Channel blockers, asthma meds make this valve floppy and allow the stomach acid to reflux back. Our esophagus is not made to handle stomach acid. Only our stomach lining can handle it so when it refluxes back it when you will have the heartburn. Certain foods can aggravate it and create more stomach acidity and that can vary by person so you need to find your triggers. The acid from the foods is not nearly as destructive as the acid (HCL) from your stomach which can actually destroy the lining of the esophagous and change the molecular structure of it and that is when it becomes dangerous. If you can take a acid blocking drug like Pepcid or and inhibitor drug like Nexium it should cut down on the stomach acid produced. Otherwise you can use something like Gaviscon after and it will coat the the LES valve and make it harder to flop open.

Marsky
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   Posted 12/2/2007 7:45 PM (GMT -7)   
I've been experiencing heartburn in the past few months too. Especially while driving. If I'm a passenger, not so much. It must be that alert, sitting up straight position or something but I belch, one after another. Very annoying!

I find that Gavisgon works best. Also a piece of bread, chewed well and followed by a large glass of water.

I try to avoid the foods mentioned above too when my heartburn is acting up. Plain food, saltines, the bread, water and Gavisgon really make a difference.
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