Please Help, I Have No One. Husband is 79 in hospital.

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Halime
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   Posted 5/11/2010 7:51 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi.

My husband is 79 and has been healthy except for a bypass surgery 6 years ago. He has been eating better and walking a lot. On no prescription medications at time of admittance to hospital.

What happened was he went for his yearly VA (veterans) check up and they said his blood work was critical. Admitted him to the VA Hospital in Gainesville, Florida.
April 29th

Come to find out he had 4 LITERS (yes, I said 4) of urine in his bladder due to an enlarged prostate gland squeezing his urethra and not allowing him to completely empty his bladder. This in turn was affecting his kidneys tremendously and he lost about 35 pounds.

He has been LYING to me telling me he was feeling fine when I had a feeling he wasn't.

I don't have the exact figures but I know his potassium and creatinine levels were very high and he was severely anemic. They gave him one blood transfusion and that's it when he first got there 13 days ago.

What I am hoping is a good sign is that they did not do any dialysis at all. They put in a foley catheter and he has had that in now for 13 days and he is still in the hospital.

Is this normal for a person his age (79) to take this long for his kidneys to get back to a somewhat normal range?

The doctors have been telling me that things will go slowly since he is older but I am just looking for anyone with this type of experience!
PLEASE.

He has a GREAT appetite and otherwise feels great and looks great.

I have no family to speak of that I can talk with and found your forum online.

They have said he has a high urine output and seems like every other day he is back on IV fluids.

They tell me this is normal.

The only other thing was that they found MICROSCOPIC traces of blood in his stool (causing his hemoglobin to decrease SLIGHLTY) and he is having a colonoscopy done today to see what is causing that.

My mind is racing and I cannot sleep, I am stressing. They tell me it is nothing to stress about and it can be from many causes.

Other than that he is on every other day IV fluids he is acting fine. He is allowed to walk up and down the hallways and we take him out for sunshine. They removed the heart monitor 3 days after being admitted, again I am taking that as a good sign.

Any opinions are greatly appreciated. We live in Tallahassee, FL and drive to Gainesville, FL everyday (2 hour drive) because we have pets and the longest I can leave them alone is 2 days.

Thanks ahead of time for any input.

Sincerely,

Halime

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   Posted 5/11/2010 9:43 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Halime,

I am not familiar with kidney and prostate issues, but it sounds like they have things under control. But I wanted to welcome you to the HealingWell forum and let you know that there are some wonderful very knowledgable members here who will most likely be posting to you soon.

Try to stay relaxed (easier said than done, I know) and not stress over this too much. That will only make you tired and not be able to think straight.

Know that I am thinking of you and saying a prayer for both you and your husband. Things are going to be alright, I am sure.

Keep posting, it does good to talk to people.

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Red_34
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   Posted 5/11/2010 9:56 AM (GMT -7)   
My father went thru something similiar. He's 65 and was having issues with emptying his bladder all the way. He kept getting urinary track infections and had to take many medications to shrink his enlarged prostate as well as self catheter himself. The medications failed to shrink his prostate after trying meds for about 2 years so he had his prostate partially removed. His blood work was all over the place too. But after his surgery, all his blood work showed that he improved. But yes, as we get older it takes a bit longer for the body to heal and right itself.

As for the blood in his stool. That can be from almost anything. It can be from hemmeroids, polyps to diverticulosis. But it's good that he is having a colonoscopy to rule out if it's anything more serious such as colon cancer.
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aimsgirl16
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   Posted 5/11/2010 1:53 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey Halime!!

I am so sorry to hear about your husband! I will be praying for you during your travels and also for your husband while he continues to get better!

Yes, it takes anyone awhile for kidneys to get better, especially someone is a little more experienced in life! It is great news that he wasnt put a dialysis! That is such a relief! A high urine output is a great thing...when your kidneys are failing, people usually have a bit more difficulty being able to urinate! So that is wonderful news :). It is very important to stay hydrated while your kidneys are not working to their fullest, which probably explain the IV fluids. I have had to go several times to get fluids when my kidneys have been acting up!

I am not familuar with prostate issues but hopefully someone will come along that is familuar in that area. (I am sure they will!) How is his anemia doing? Has it gotten better with the transfusion? Do you have any other kidney questions that we might be able to help you!

Well, I will deffinatly be thinking about you and please keep up updated on your hubbys condition and his improvements! Sending positive thoughts and hugs your way!!!

Halime
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   Posted 5/12/2010 6:24 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks for the replies.
Here is an update from my Tuesday night hospital visit.

When I got there at 4pm I asked the doctor to be paged and "of course" he wasn't around!
I was able to extract some information from the nurse (some are helpful, some are not).

His creatnine was down to 2.6 from the 5.6 when first admitted. The potassium was recorded at 4.8, down from the 5.9 when admitted. BUT over the weekend they gave him this brown liquid for 2 days in a row to bind to the potassium and help excrete it through his bowel movements.

So naturally that tells me that was the reason his potassium went down along with the fact they had him on a liquid diet from Saturday afternoon until Tuesday afternoon.

I read somewhere in the nurses notes that the doctor stated he could go home if his "such and such" ( I don't remember what it said exactly) was down the next day.

Well, that to me is ridiculous because in my opinion he still needs to be monitored to make sure he doesn't need to IV fluids anymore and his potassium does not keep going up.

I am waiting for the doctor to call, but I doubt he will so we will probably drive down there Thursday morning AGAIN with a rental car (I've spent $950.00 already for 13 days).

The nurse also told me that his WBC was going up and that's got me worried. He has had a catheter in for 13 days BUT they also have MRSA patients next to his room and across.

Why they don't put them in a separate area is BEYOND me???

The colonsocopy results were diverticulosis and they removed 1 polyp. It also stated they they took a biopsy of the small intestine.

The nurse said his red blood cell count went up "a bit", but like I said I have a list of questions for the doctor and will most likely go back down there Thursday.

I am going to be pestering them at the nurses station over the phone to have this DR. call me because whatever is being said to my husband he forgets most of it. He constantly tells them they need to call me, BUT THEY DON'T.

Thanks to everyone who replies, because like I said, I have no one to talk to and reading replies helps me out a lot!

Sincerely,

Halime

Red_34
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   Posted 5/12/2010 7:58 AM (GMT -7)   
That happened to my mother in law the last time my father in law was in the hospital. They wouldn't keep her updated on ANYTHING! And my father in law was so looped out on pain meds (he had several cracked ribs and a hernia) that he could never remember what they told him. My MIL finally had enough and became that squeaky wheel and finally got some answers. Do not be afraid to speak up and find out what is going on. He is your husband and you should be provided answers out of courtesy.
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aimsgirl16
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   Posted 5/12/2010 1:11 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey! What great news about your husband! His kidney function has deffinatly gotten better! What a relief. I do know that when your kidneys are not functioning right, it can cause the potassium to shoot through the roof. So maybe his level is improving because the creatinine is improving!!

Was his WBC low to begin with or did the nurse mean it was going up because of possible infection? It is great about his RBC :). Every little bit is an improvement!

Glad you found us here on HW!!! How is your hubby doing today?

James C.
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   Posted 5/12/2010 2:35 PM (GMT -7)   
I can't address any of the kidney issues, but will attempt some prostate answers. I understand that the immediate issue for him is the kidney, and so the prostate problems will be delayed somewhat, I suppose. However, if he doesn't already have one, he will need an experienced urologist to look at the enlarged prostate issues and to determine if this is the underlying issues causing his kidney retention and failure. There are several things a urologist can do for him, -from using instruments to remove part of the prostate to increase urinary tract size, to drugs to reduce the enlargement, to a couple of surgical options. For now, the catheter will keep the urine flowing out and things working fairly normally. Catheters are a part of daily life for some men, as intrusive as it seems, and can be a real blessing as he probably found out when they put one in and drained all that urine out of him. Proper care of the catheter will reduce the chance of infections. The tube and head of the penis needs to be kept clean and usually an antibiotic salve is used to block germs and to also lube the tube so it can slide somewhat and the ureter doesn't 'stick' and cause irritation. It seems that he is getting the correct care, in the proper sequence- first get the kidneys healthier, then address the prostate and urinary retention issues after that. Any intrusive work on the urinary system increases the chance of infection as long as his kidneys are compromised or still have infection in them. I know it seems everything must be done at once, but there's probably a good reason why things are being done slower. I do think the doctors need to communicate with you better, especially to let you know just what specialists are looking at him and for you to find out if there's a urologist involved. Kidney specialists are just that, as are urologist specialists with the bladder and the rest of the urinary system.

If you want or need some more answers, advice or just a shoulder to lean on, there's a bunch of guys and gals in the Prostate Cancer Forum here who have had some experiences with enlarged prostates, urinary blockages and such, so come on over, if you want. We can't speak to the kidney difficutlies, but some of them really know their pee.... smilewinkgrin turn

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hep93
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   Posted 5/13/2010 4:19 PM (GMT -7)   

Halime, I just wanted to mention that since HIPAA regulations went into place, it can often be difficult, if not impossible, to glean information from medical sources unless you have Power of Attorney or Medical Advocacy in place for your husband.  This is something you need to look into.  It will also give you the ability to make decisions on his behalf when he is not clear in his thinking.

I hope that he continues to improve.


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Halime
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   Posted 5/16/2010 5:18 PM (GMT -7)   
May 16th Update.

He is HOME from the hospital!!!

They released him Friday due to the fact that finally his potassium levels were going down.

Karen, you are so right about stress and being tired and not thinking clearly! That's all I've been doing! I felt like a zombie just going through the motions.

Sherry, I think that's what we are going to do is the prostate surgery. They mentioned something called T.U.R.P. which is basically like a rotor rooter through his prostate to make room for his urethra. You were right about the blood in his stool. He was diagnosed with diverticulosis.

Amy, when I asked the doctors about dehydration issues at home and they said to let him drink when he is thirsty. Well I know that "older" adults do not drink as much as younger folks, but for now I am not pushing the issue of drinking too much. I am making sure he is drinking, but not forcing him to. We go back to his primary care doctor this Wednesday and I am going to ask for a copy of the blood work because the nephrologist told me if his sodium gets to 145 then he is dehydrated!

They said his anemia is doing better, slowly but surely. They had him on some iron pills at the hospital the last couple of days he was there, but did not prescribe any to take home, so I am hoping that's a good sign.

The doctor told me his WBC was normal and he didn't know what the nurse was talking about.

What I am glad about is his potassium normalizing. It was at 4.9 on Friday.

James, I will pop into the prostate forum soon. Thanks for the heads up.

Also "hep93" mentioned about a Power of Attorney? How do I go about getting that done?

I really don't want to have any problems should something else happen down the road.

After my last post the doctor was GREAT. He kept me informed and told me that if I wanted my husband to stay longer that would be ok, because he was not in a rush to send him home.

I am also going to start a new topic because I was left holding the bag with the dietician. She knew he was being discharged, yet she never returned my calls.

Thanks for the support. I really needed it.

Halime

Red_34
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   Posted 5/17/2010 5:23 AM (GMT -7)   
To get the power of attorney, all you have to do is see a laywer with your husband and have them draw up papers. I had to do that with my grandmother. She was slowly losing her mind due to Alzheimer's and she was going blind, so while she was still lucid we went to an attorney and she drew up the papers. We then had to go back in to sign them. It's quite easy really. It just allows you to speak on his behalf when he is unable or if you need to get some information about his condition. But if you get POA, be sure to carry the papers with you to hospitals, doctor offices etc everytime you go or until they make a copy and keep it on their files.
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