Favorite OTC Eye Drops???

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AlwaysRosie
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   Posted 5/8/2008 12:28 PM (GMT -7)   
For those of you with dry eyes and using OTC lubricant eye drops . . . do you have a favorite? I was given a couple samples from the eye doc and of the two, I like the Optive best. I was shocked to see that this type (any brand) drops cost near or over $10 for half of an ounce!!!!! I did find one on-line rebate that will pay up to $10 rebate on a bottle of Optive cool So I'll be sure to take advantage of that.

What brands do you like???

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   Posted 5/8/2008 1:45 PM (GMT -7)   
I've used Refresh Plus for about 12 years because that was what the ophthalmologist recommended (back then). But lately, they don't seem to be doing the job, so I've been looking for others to try. I can't afford anything too expensive, though! For now, I'm trying the same brand, but the thicker gel drops to see if they help any more. I've only used them a few days so far but my eyes are still bothering me quite a bit. :(
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   Posted 5/8/2008 2:20 PM (GMT -7)   
I use Refresh Liquigel - it's a really thick and soothing eye drop, but it can be a bit pricey too. Since it works well for me, I haven't tried any others.
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   Posted 5/8/2008 3:59 PM (GMT -7)   
Rosie,
   I used optive, refresh, and I forget the other one off and on for awhile trying to find the best one for me. I just started using Genteal drops and it seems to work better for me. They also have the gel thats thicker to use at night.
   Good luck sis with this. They are very expensive! Hope you find something soon to help you.
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   Posted 5/8/2008 4:04 PM (GMT -7)   
My rheumy said Genteal Gel (which I only use if I'm having a really bad time) and Tears Naturale II - which I use daily.

about anything that says "Lubricant Eye" (gel/drops) will help some, it's those "red eye" things you want to avoid.

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   Posted 5/8/2008 8:57 PM (GMT -7)   
My ophthamologist recommended GenTeal Gel Drops. These are drops but are gel and coat better. I often find coupons for these in the newspaper or in the box I purchase. I am still wearing contact lens and believe I can only do so because of these drops. I do NOT put them in when I have the contacts in - just in the morning before contact time, and at night after the contacts come out.
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   Posted 5/8/2008 10:31 PM (GMT -7)   
Like lynnwood and Ides, I use the Genteal Gel but it wears off fast for me. My doc recommended a simple petrolatum based eye moisture ointment for night use, when you don't have to see well, because it blurs your vision. It works best for protecting my eyes through the night. The most effective pain relief and dry eye drops for me have been the prescription Restasis, but I can't use it as much as prescribe because I get sinus side effects from it. As Lynnwood said, Visine with all the red eye, allergy and other crap in it is not good and will dry your eyes more. Simply saline solution like for contact lense wearers is cheap, though not long lasting, is good to have around and applied liberally in an emergency. You might want to get thimerisol free since many people are allergic to thimerisol. Sometimes I feel like something is in my eye, though usually it isn't, but I can flush it out with the saline just in case before applying my other drops or gel or ointment.
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   Posted 5/9/2008 12:27 AM (GMT -7)   

I just use regular non additive/non preservative saline. I use it about 3-4 times a day. I dont notice a difference between the lubricant kind and the saline. I have heard that you can develop a need for any kind of eye drop besides the normal saline kind. Your eyes will stop producing tears naturally due to the drops, then you become completely dependent. 

Since I dont feel that the other kinds work any better, and the normal saline ones are cheaper (like 8oz for $4.00). Look by the saline, and refill your little dropper bottle!! Just make sure no additives, and no preservatives. You can even look at a medical store, they sell bigger bottles for wound cleaning. Not sure the price, but I have seen them before. Hope that helps.


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AlwaysRosie
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   Posted 5/9/2008 6:40 AM (GMT -7)   
Wow !!! You guys are great. Thanks for all the info!!!

Snickerdoodle . . . AHHHHHH!!! I'll have to research that a bit. I wouldn't want to make my dryness worse by using drops. It does feel like something is in my eye . . . very annoying.

So sorry to any of you who have even worse dryness. I think mine is still considered mild/moderate. He offered Restasis but I wasn't ready for such a big step. I think that one has to be used regularly and my eyes are dry for a few days and then not so bad for a while.

Thanks again for your help.

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   Posted 5/9/2008 7:02 AM (GMT -7)   
With so many rave reviews of Genteal, I'll give those a try when I run out of my refresh liquigel.
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   Posted 5/10/2008 9:03 PM (GMT -7)   
My rheumie didn't offer me restasis until after he saw my eyes on the gallium scan. My lacrimal glands were very inflamed and due to having chronic inflamation, could burn out and not work anymore. That would be really bad. So we decided to use restasis and though I can't use it as much as I would like, I do find it helpful as an antiinflamatory once a day or even just a few times a week. I may use it once a day for a month or two, then my eyes get better and I switch to saline type drops and perhaps ointment at night, and when it gets bad again, I use the restasis.

You may want to discuss this with your doc, whether he feels you might have this chronic type of irritation. I try only to use the restasis when it feels like I have rocks in my eyes and they hurt, or are very red and extremely dry.

I understand how you feel. I know I need to get the inflammation down, but the sinus side effects for me just make it miserable to use it too much.

Just thought I'd let you know about that possibility. Losing your lacrimal glands would be horrible, to constantly have to use drops. I hope that never happens to any of us.
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   Posted 5/11/2008 8:48 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks Marji . . . I was actually offered the restasis . . . but I asked the doc if I could use it "as needed" and he said, no, that I would need to use it every day. Not sure why that would be. But it does sound nice to have the "either/or" option.

What kind of sinus side effect were you referring to?? A side affect from using drops?? the OTC drops?

Sorry you have dry eyes too.

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   Posted 5/12/2008 6:22 PM (GMT -7)   
I would get it if you have dry eyes because it only gets worse and the restasis does help. For some reason though, after a few days on restasis twice a day, I get a stuffy nose. I quit for a day or maybe two and I get better. Since it supposedly takes a while to work to full effectiveness, I got relief pretty fast, I can't believe it all leaves my system in that time. My rheumie just wants me to use it as much as I can tolerate because of my lacrimal glands and it has been the only thing that has really worked.

I get a lot of eye pain, I didn't used to, but now often it feels like I have nails through my eyes, or dirt in them, and the restasis helps alot. I had prk a few years ago and my corneas were terribly scarred from dryness.

If using restasis can preserve your lacrimal glands and prevent damage to your cornea, I would use it. It lasts much longer than OTC drops and most people have no side effects. I'm the only person I know. It didn't burn for me when I used it, but it is a great relief after putting it in. My eyes feel so much better.

I would get it and give it a try. Preserving your lacrimal glands and corneas is a good thing. Medicare covers it for me so the cost is less than the fanciest eye drops.

I have to talk to the doc about the sinus stuff. He may want me to use some kind of nasal spray or something and use the restasis twice a day regardless. You don't want your eyes to get like mine.

Well let me know what happens! I hope you feel better.
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   Posted 5/12/2008 6:25 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks Marji . . . I see the rheumy in a couple weeks. I'll ask about it at that appointment.

I never knew about the lacrimal glands . . . interesting and sheds new light on the eye issues.

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   Posted 5/12/2008 6:35 PM (GMT -7)   
I would disagree with the "only gets worse" comment about the dry eyes. It would definitely depend on the reason for the dry eyes in the first place. If they are dry as part of an auto-immune disease, they change as the disease is more or less active. If they are dry from some other eye illness, then perhaps "only get worse" holds true.

My dry eyes have been diagnosed as part of Sjogren's and they get better (wetter) and worse (dryer) as Lupus & Sjogren's flares come and go.

If your doctor doesn't think you need a prescription treatment like restasis, and you are getting adequate relief from an over-the-counter medication, why take a prescription? I understand the argument that it may be cheaper if one is covered by insurance and one is not, but it seems safer to avoid "heavy-duty" (ie prescriptions) if over-the-counter is effective.

Just my $.02,

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   Posted 5/12/2008 6:47 PM (GMT -7)   
Hmmmmmmmmmm . . . . thanks Lynwood . . . all opinions appreciated and certainly helps to weigh things out.

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Bump!! Up you go for Ann!!

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   Posted 7/16/2008 6:56 PM (GMT -7)   
I agree with Lynnwood, Rosie, my rhuemy says the restasis can cause your heart to palpitate and race and they must watch you very closely. I am trying Optive and have had much success with it. As Lynnwood says, the problems with my dry eyes fluctuates in response to my disease activity.

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AlwaysRosie
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   Posted 7/16/2008 8:18 PM (GMT -7)   
Mine too Audrey. . . the eyes get dry and I know I'm heading for pain. Thanks. I use Optive too (because I had a coupon for a free bottle . . . got it at their website).

I'm going to try Lynnwood's recommendation next. Genteal. . . preservative free.

Nice to see you posting again!!

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   Posted 7/17/2008 7:58 AM (GMT -7)   

Hi all.

I use Optive.  I know they're a bit expensive, but they are the best OTC drop available, for me anyway.  I tried restasis, but cannot tolerate it.  It burns my eyes like crazy, and then caused (on two different occassions) a severe inflammation in my right eye.  I decided I'll just deal with the dry eyes things with OTC drops, since restasis (in my case) is optional. 

 

My husband is actually the one who picked out Optive.  I sent him to the grocery store and he had no idea what to buy, so he asked another lady who was also looking for an OTC dry eye product.  She recommended Optive.  I love it!

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