Georgia/southern dwellers, am I being bitten or is it hives?

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cured4real?
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   Posted 6/16/2008 8:56 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi,
For those living in the south, we've had a lot of rain, well, some every day as usual, and I often go outside after the rain in shorts and sandals.  I have noticed after walking for a while that I have big lumps that itch really bad.  Now I may have vascular problems in my legs though I wouldn't expect it to act like that. When I scratch the lumps they get huge, on my ankles and calves. They don't form a pimple like an ant bite or spider bit but there appear to be two tiny puncture wounds the size of pin holes about a eighth inch apart and not deep. 
 
If it is bites, it doesn't hurt when I get bit--or my neuropathy is just really bad--but they itch like crazy and its only at a certain time of year walking in wet six inch or so high grass. My boyfriend thinks their gnats, but he hasn't had a single bite and he works outside all the time in the woods, ponds, swamps, and walks all over the yard.  My son does the same and he doesn't get them. I'm the only one I know of. 
 
I had an allergic reaction to yellow fly bite on my foot that acted like this but my whole foot swelled up and I couldn't walk on my leg and it really hurt. Maybe now i'm used to it and these are fly bites.
 
I try putting alcohol, tiger balm, bengay, cortisone cream anything, but they just itch until they are done.
 
Any help and possible remedy would be great.  I can't see me just getting hives on my calves, especially with the pinholes in them, but maybe that is from the hair follicle, from swelling, I don't know. I'm baffled. Whatever it is, I can't see it.
Love, Marji
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Lynnwood
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   Posted 6/17/2008 7:16 AM (GMT -7)   
Chiggers? I think that's how you spell it. Sounds to me like some sort of bite - with a hyper-reaction to it....but one that is not what you saw before due to your current meds?

What happens if you wear pant, socks, closed shoes so nothing can get at you?

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MMMNAVY
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   Posted 6/17/2008 7:33 AM (GMT -7)   
I swear mosquitoes (or chiggers-a form of mite) go for females more then males. I do want to say do not itch them. (Do not walk in low lying damp areas to avoid bites, or course I could get them walking thru ten feet of grass going to the car.) There are otc meds for the itching like chigger rx.
While nail polish isn't a good treatment for chigger bites, anything that can help control the itching can be helpful, including:
* take a bath or shower as soon as possible after any possible exposure to chiggers
* apply your favorite OTC anti-itch medication, such as hydrocortisone, Calamine lotion, Sarna, oatmeal baths, etc.
* oral Benadryl
* a prescription strength steroid cream

Try some insect repellent in the future.
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I spent some time down at Ft. Benning and Pensacola I have found that it is mainly the mosquitoes are the main problem in the south.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosquito
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cured4real?
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   Posted 6/17/2008 1:46 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks, I hadn't thought about chiggers. Of course keeping the grass mowed definitely makes a difference and wearing pants and socks and shoes can, though I swear they get up my pant legs, but may be just a delayed reaction to an older bite. I they don't spread or anything, though with all the meds we are on I wouldn't be surprised if our blood doesn't kill them right off.

Whatever it is, its only seasonal during the wet season. My boyfriend says gnats, like no-see-ums, but I've gotten bit by them before and don't have this problem. I've never had chiggers before until now maybe. Usually gnats are irritating but I don't get a bite from them. this turns into a huge irregular lump, so chiggers probably is right.

They die pretty quickly though. Boy, my body must be toxic. My mom said chiggers are red and live under the skin (though she could be confused with scabies--confusion runs deep in our family, we're lucky if we can remember each others names and usually have to go through a list until we hit on the right one). But maybe thay arent burrowing, just biting and fleeing and I'm reacting.

Thanks for the help Lynnwood, Navy. I do get more bites than my boyfriend. I'll definitely spray my legs with off before going out--I hate using that stuff, need skin so soft--if it will work. And the calamine might be better. I have some triamcinolone acetonide which is stronger than the cortisone, I guess I could try a tiny dab of that. I'm supposed to be using it on my legs anyway to try to repigment, but I gave up.
Love, Marji
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MMMNAVY
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   Posted 6/17/2008 8:09 PM (GMT -7)   
I think it depends on your definition of chigger :if it is a mosquitoes or a mite.
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cured4real?
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   Posted 6/17/2008 10:55 PM (GMT -7)   
This is like an invisible,under the skin thing. It is abnormal size, not round like a mosquito. Some bites form a large irregular sized patch almost two inches long but narrower with most of the swelling around the initial point of contact. It's the oddest thing, but the remedies are helping some. though some "bites" I've had for a good part of a week now and the itching is so bad.
Love, Marji
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Ills--Sjogrens-Lupus-like AI Disease, Hashis, Vitiligo, spinal stenosis/fusion with plate, salivary/lymphectomies, Diabetes, NAFLD, COPD, RLS, neuropathy, trigonitis, hystero, diffuse brain atrophy, GI nightmare
Meds--Plaquenil, Evoxac, Metformin, Synthroid, HCTZ, Estradiol patch, Prosed, Detrol, Klonopin, Ultram, Vicodin, Restasis, Albuterol, steroid injections and pred prn


MMMNAVY
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   Posted 6/18/2008 6:30 AM (GMT -7)   
I think you might want to get that checked out. Even Chigger bites should be round and about the diameter of a dime to a quarter.
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Lynnwood
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   Posted 6/18/2008 9:56 AM (GMT -7)   
Chiggers can be irregular - mine have come in all shapes.

Google or check wikipedia for chiggers -- this sounds like a classic case to me.

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cured4real?
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   Posted 6/18/2008 3:01 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks!
Love, Marji
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Ills--Sjogrens-Lupus-like AI Disease, Hashis, Vitiligo, spinal stenosis/fusion with plate, salivary/lymphectomies, Diabetes, NAFLD, COPD, RLS, neuropathy, trigonitis, hystero, diffuse brain atrophy, GI nightmare
Meds--Plaquenil, Evoxac, Metformin, Synthroid, HCTZ, Estradiol patch, Prosed, Detrol, Klonopin, Ultram, Vicodin, Restasis, Albuterol, steroid injections and pred prn


suetoo
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   Posted 6/19/2008 12:39 PM (GMT -7)   
And some of us taste better 'n others! yeah
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cured4real?
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   Posted 6/19/2008 3:08 PM (GMT -7)   
I would think with my diseased and drug filled body, the bugs would regret it.
Love, Marji
--Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. Bill Watterson (1958-) cartoonist "Calvin and Hobbes"
Ills--Sjogrens-Lupus-like AI Disease, Hashis, Vitiligo, spinal stenosis/fusion with plate, salivary/lymphectomies, Diabetes, NAFLD, COPD, RLS, neuropathy, trigonitis, hystero, diffuse brain atrophy, GI nightmare
Meds--Plaquenil, Evoxac, Metformin, Synthroid, HCTZ, Estradiol patch, Prosed, Detrol, Klonopin, Ultram, Vicodin, Restasis, Albuterol, steroid injections and pred prn


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   Posted 6/20/2008 7:49 AM (GMT -7)   
Poor bugs....drugs with dinner, huh? Cuts out a middle man, for sure.  tongue   My daughter lives in Georgia and said that fire ant hills are a big concern when she walks her dogs. I guess their hills are hard to miss and they are pretty tiny, too. We live in upstate NY and used to put Avon Skin So Soft on us and our horse to keep bugs away and it really worked. I wonder if you can still buy it?
sue

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cured4real?
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   Posted 6/20/2008 12:50 PM (GMT -7)   
Yeah, I think so. I think Walmart might even sell it, I seem to remember seeing it somewhere like that.

Sometimes I wonder if mosquitos are drawn to us because of our medication! I step in those stupid ant hills alot, because we have six acres and I don't like the poisons with my dogs and cats and the birds, but my neuropathy is so bad it takes me a while to realize I've stepped in one! I guess there is some good point to neuropathy.
Love, Marji
--Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. Bill Watterson (1958-) cartoonist "Calvin and Hobbes"
Ills--Sjogrens-Lupus-like AI Disease, Hashis, Vitiligo, spinal stenosis/fusion with plate, salivary/lymphectomies, Diabetes, NAFLD, COPD, RLS, neuropathy, trigonitis, hystero, diffuse brain atrophy, GI nightmare
Meds--Plaquenil, Evoxac, Metformin, Synthroid, HCTZ, Estradiol patch, Prosed, Detrol, Klonopin, Ultram, Vicodin, Restasis, Albuterol, steroid injections and pred prn


MMMNAVY
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   Posted 6/20/2008 12:58 PM (GMT -7)   
flower's, perfumes, girly soaps, a diet rich in fruits can really attract them as well.

ChiggerRX is at our walmart I was just there and thought of you.
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cured4real?
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   Posted 6/20/2008 1:02 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks, Navy, definitely nix the perfumes for sure. The rest is hard to live without!
Love, Marji
--Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. Bill Watterson (1958-) cartoonist "Calvin and Hobbes"
Ills--Sjogrens-Lupus-like AI Disease, Hashis, Vitiligo, spinal stenosis/fusion with plate, salivary/lymphectomies, Diabetes, NAFLD, COPD, RLS, neuropathy, trigonitis, hystero, diffuse brain atrophy, GI nightmare
Meds--Plaquenil, Evoxac, Metformin, Synthroid, HCTZ, Estradiol patch, Prosed, Detrol, Klonopin, Ultram, Vicodin, Restasis, Albuterol, steroid injections and pred prn

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