Anyone know a non pill way to get rid of sinus headache?

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cured4real?
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   Posted 8/12/2008 6:47 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi--
I'm having a bad headache that is like a sinus headache. I think its because I'm using swish and swallow for a thrush infection in my throat and lip and it may have affected my sinuses.  It may simply be from stopping evoxac--I have constant sinusitis without evoxac.  The headache is so bad, steam isn't helping or flonase or hydrocodone.  Any kind of extreme scent, like air fresheners or tiger balm which I would use, makes the headache worse.  I'm really really so so dry. I tried saline and water, not helping. More pain up higher in the sinuses.  Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks for your help.  If there is just some kind of trick to relieve the upper sinus type headache. Do you think guanefisin would help by causing moisture? I'm starting to fall apart a bit on this TB med, antibiotic. I suppose it must be really strong and probably is really altering things.
Love, Marji
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Lynnwood
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   Posted 8/12/2008 8:00 PM (GMT -7)   
Ice and/or heat -- the standard 20 minutes of ice, 20 minutes of nothing, 20 minutes of heat -- sometimes helps me with sinus headache -- I know that's not the same as sinusitis but maybe can be adapted to help?

Sounds miserable and I hope you get some relief soon.

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lucysgd
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   Posted 8/12/2008 9:20 PM (GMT -7)   
moist heat - I sit w/ a bowl of hot water on my lap, dip a washcloth in and wring it out, then apply to my face, especially sinus areas. This seems to open up the sinuses and you get the benefit of a little steam as well. My mother suffered from severe sinus infections as a young woman, and while hospitalized for one, was told to do this every 15 min. The water should be as hot as you can stand it. It's an old but simple method - but works pretty well. I can't take decongestants or antihistamines - so when Tiger Balm doesn't get at it - this is what I do. Hope you get some relief very soon - I know how miserable those headaches are.
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cured4real?
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   Posted 8/12/2008 10:08 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks so much Lynnwood and Lucy! Lynnwood, I didn't think of doing the hot nothing cold thing like for my back. Thanks so much for that. I've tried the steam, but as you know down here, the humidity is not much of a problem. I want to try that xlear. My mom swears by it.
Love, Marji
--Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. Bill Watterson (1958-) cartoonist "Calvin and Hobbes"
Ills--Sjogrens-Lupus-like AI Disease, Hashis, Vitiligo, spinal stenosis/fusion with plate, salivary/lymphectomies, Diabetes, NAFLD, COPD, RLS, neuropathy, trigonitis, hystero, diffuse brain atrophy, GI nightmare
Meds--Plaquenil, Evoxac, Metformin, Synthroid, HCTZ, Estradiol patch, Prosed, Detrol, Klonopin, Ultram, Vicodin, Restasis, Albuterol, steroid injections and pred prn


MJLD
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   Posted 8/13/2008 8:25 AM (GMT -7)   
I moisten a washcloth and zap it in the microwave, wrap it inside another wash cloth and apply it to my face. Hope you feel better soon! Judy

PattyLatty
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   Posted 8/13/2008 9:19 AM (GMT -7)   
I do the Hot as I can get a wet washcloth thing and keep getting a new one over and over. Then I drink a cup of hot tea, as hot as I can get it. If that doesn't help, I go to a chinese restaurant and get a spring roll and dip it in more mustard sauce than I can stand and eat it. It that doesn't do it for me, nothing will.

I've also put a pan of water on the stove and put a little (brain fog: what is that stuff you put on a child's chest when they have a cold?) in it, and sometimes half a grapefruit. Then I lay a large towel over my head and let the steam from the pan go up in my nose and mouth.

After I do all of that, I've found that drinking hot tea all day really helps.

I have to be careful not to overuse Afrin, but that's usually the first thing I use. When I get a sinus headache, I usually wake up with it. And the Afrin is the first thing I do. Pain pills do nothing to help me.

Hope you get rid of your headache. I hate those things.
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   Posted 8/13/2008 10:41 AM (GMT -7)   
I forgot one of the most important things you can do, and you (and I) should do this daily: the sinus rinse. You can buy a kit at your local pharmacy or discount center. Mine is a bottle in which I place the contents of a little packet that comes in the kit, then I fill the bottle with warm water, put the lid on and shake. I lean over the sink and fill one nostril with half the contents, letting the water fill my sinuses and come out the other nostril. Then do the same with the other nostril. It works wonders, especially if you do it every day.
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sjkly
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   Posted 8/13/2008 2:46 PM (GMT -7)   
I find that covering the steamer with a towel with my head inside the towel concentrates the steam-sitting like that-or just moving the steamer into the bathroom shutting the door and sitting there for twenty minutes helps.
Guefenesen helps me.
Then chew something very chewy like a tootsie roll helps.

AlwaysRosie
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   Posted 8/13/2008 5:10 PM (GMT -7)   
Neddy Pot (nasal irrigation) . . . sounds gross but can really clear out wads of gunk. Try Googling "neddy pot" for more info.

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cured4real?
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   Posted 8/13/2008 5:52 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks, yeah pain med does really nothing for it. I need to do the irrigation thing I've been doing the tea, the steam not so much. The wet wash cloth is my thing too right away when I get up. I have a bunch of fish tanks and its been raining every day. You'd think there'd be enough humidity, but it's just that chronic dryness like I don't sweat and my eyes. The idea of flushing my sinuses sounds like a good one. I have to go to the drug store tomorrow, so I can pick something up until I can get into a bigger town this weekend and get what I want. Thanks for all your tips. I can get that hot mustard, I used to have some wasabi, which is just really hot. With my throat having thrush, I'm afraid to drink too much hot stuff, even the tea because the medicine--nystatin liquid, coats the throat and I don't want to wash it off or anything. It's a mess. I think the sinuses got real bad from the nystatin or the thrush, but it started after being on the nystatin. Thanks again, you are all lifesavers and I hope you are all doing well as can be.
Love, Marji
--Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. Bill Watterson (1958-) cartoonist "Calvin and Hobbes"
Ills--Sjogrens-Lupus-like AI Disease, Hashis, Vitiligo, spinal stenosis/fusion with plate, salivary/lymphectomies, Diabetes, NAFLD, COPD, RLS, neuropathy, trigonitis, hystero, diffuse brain atrophy, GI nightmare
Meds--Plaquenil, Evoxac, Metformin, Synthroid, HCTZ, Estradiol patch, Prosed, Detrol, Klonopin, Ultram, Vicodin, Restasis, Albuterol, steroid injections and pred prn


Sister Sister
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   Posted 8/16/2008 11:00 AM (GMT -7)   
There's lots of info--and even a demonstration tape--for using a neti pot here:

www.oprah.com/slideshow/oprahshow/slideshow1_ss_oz_20070426/6

You may have to 'cut and paste' or type the address if you can't just click on it in this message.

If neither option works for you, just run a search for "neti pot"

PattyLatty
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   Posted 8/16/2008 11:13 AM (GMT -7)   
I know you don't want to take any meds, but my doc recommends advil synus. Actually, she has a protocol which goes something like this: Afrin; sinus flush; advil sinus. I don't remember the order or what else, but that's what I do plus the hot washcloths and hot tea. Sorry you have other problems that prevent the hot tea. Advil sinus really helps if you're willing to take an over-the-counter pill.
Lupus, osteoarthritis, fibro, renauds, restless leg, hiatal hernia, double vision, migraines, costocondritis.
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   Posted 8/17/2008 9:36 PM (GMT -7)   
The wet heat/steam/wet washcloth on the face is the best bet. You know what else helps? Using one of those electric massagers on the face around the periorbital sockets and along the eyebrows and the nose, even the chin. Try it, it helps with the pain and often loosens anything clogged up in the sinuses and causes them to run and drain.

Good Luck.

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