Er Nurses heart attack/please send this to your loved ones.

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okie
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   Posted 2/17/2009 12:12 PM (GMT -7)   
To all the people I care about on here. Sorry if it's a little off topic but I think a lot of us need to be aware of this.
FEMALE HEART ATTACKS 
I was aware that female heart attacks are different, but this is the best description I've ever read. 
Women and heart attacks (Myocardial infarction).  Did you know that women rarely have the same dramatic symptoms that men have
when experiencing heart attack you know, the sudden stabbing pain in the chest, the cold sweat, grabbing the chest & dropping to
the floor that we see in the movies. Here is the story of one woman's experience with a heart attack. 
I had a heart attack at about 10 :30 PM with NO prior exertion, NO prior emotional trauma that one would suspect might've brought
it on. I was sitting all snugly & warm on a cold evening, with my purring cat in my lap, reading an interesting story my friend
had sent me, and actually thinking,  'A-A-h, this is the life, all cozy and warm in my soft, cushy Lazy Boy with my feet propped
up. 
A moment later, I felt that awful sensation of indigestion, when you've been in a hurry and grabbed a bite of sandwich and washed
it down with a dash of water, and that hurried bite seems to feel like you've swallowed a golf ball going down the esop hagus in
slow motion and it is most uncomfortable. You realize you shouldn't have gulped it down so fast and needed to chew it more
thoroughly and this time drink a glass of water to hasten its progress down to the stomach. This was my initial sensation---the
only trouble was that I hadn't taken a bite of anything since about 5:00 p.m. 
After it seemed to subside, the next sensation was like little squeezing motions that seemed to be racing up my SPINE (hind-sight,
it was probably my aorta spasming), gaining speed as they continued racing up and under my sternum (breast bone, where one presses
rhythmically when administering CPR). 
This fascinating process continued on into my throat and branched out into both jaws.  'AHA!! NOW I stopped puzzling about what
was happening -- we all have read and/or heard about pain in the jaws being one of the signals of an MI happening, haven't we?  I
said aloud to myself and the cat, Dear God, I think I'm having a heart attack!  
I lowered the footrest dumping the cat from my lap, started to take a step and fell on the floor instead. I thought to myself, If
this is a heart attack, I shouldn't be walking into the next room where the phone is or anywhere else ... but, on the other hand,
if I don't, nobody will know that I need help, and if I wait any longer I may not be able to get up in moment. 

I pulled myself up with the arms of the chair, walked slowly into the next room and dialed the Paramedics ... I told her I thought
I was having a heart attack due to the pressure building under the sternum and radiating into my jaws. I didn't feel hysterical or
afraid, just stating the facts.  She said she was sending the Paramedics over immediately, asked if the front door was near to me,
and if so, to unbolt the door and then lie down on the floor where they could see me when they came in. 

I unlocked the door and then laid down on the floor as instructed and lost consciousness, as I don't remember the medics coming
in, their examination, lifting me onto a gurney or getting me into their ambulance, or hearing the call they made to St. Jude ER
on the way, but I did briefly awaken when we arrived and saw that the Cardiologist was already there in his surgical blues and
cap, helping the medics pull my stretcher out of the ambulance. He was bending over me asking questions (probably something
like 'Have you taken any medications?') but I couldn't make my mind interpret what he was saying, or form an answer, and nodded
off again, not waking up until the Cardiologist and partner had already threaded the teeny angiogram balloon up my femoral artery
into the aorta and into my heart where they installed 2 side by side stents to hold open my right coronary artery. 

'I know it sounds like all my thinking and actions a t home must have taken at least 20-30 minutes before calling the Paramedics,
but actually it  took perhaps 4-5 minutes before the call, and both the fire station and St. Jude are only minutes away from my
home, and my Cardiologist was already to go to the OR in his scrubs and get going on restarting my heart (which had stopped
somewhere between my arrival and the procedure) and installing the stents. 

'Why have I written all of this to you with so much detail?  Because I want all of you who are so important in my life to know
what I learned first hand.

1.  Be aware that something very different is happening in your body not the usual men's symptoms but inexplicable things
happening (until my sternum and jaws got into the act).  It is said that many more women than men die of their first (and last) MI
because they didn't know they were having one and commonly mistake it as indigestion, take some Maalox or other anti-heartburn
preparation and go to bed, hoping they'll feel better in the morning when they wake up ... which doesn't happen.  My female
friends, your symptoms might not be exactly like mine, so I advise you to call the Paramedics if ANYTHING is unpleasantly
happening that you've not felt before. It is better to have a 'false alarm' visitation than to risk your life guessing what it
might be! 

2.  Note that I said 'Call the Paramedics. ' And if you can take an asprin.  Ladies, TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE! Do NOT try to drive
yourself to the ER - you are a hazard to others on the road. Do NOT have your panicked husband who will be speeding and looking
anxiously at what's happening with you instead of the road. Do NOT call your doctor -- he doesn't know where you live and if it's
at night you won't reach him anyway, and if it's daytime, his assistants (or answering service) will tell you to call the
Paramedics. He doesn't carry the equipment in his car that you need to be saved! The Paramedics do, principally OXYGEN that you
need ASAP. Your Dr. will be notified later. 
 
3.  Don't assume it couldn't be a heart attack because you have a normal cholesterol count.  Research has discovered that a
cholesterol elevated reading is rarely the cause of an MI (unless it's unbelievably high and/or accompanied by high blood
pressure). MIs are usually caused by long-term stress and inflammation in the body,  which dumps all sorts of deadly hormones into
your system to sludge things up in there. Pain in the jaw can wake you from a sound sleep. Let's be careful and be aware. The more
we know, the better chance we could survive.


 
 CAROL
Possible scleroderma.  stage 4 COPD, sleep apnea, Osteoporosis,osteoarthritis
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aimsgirl16
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   Posted 2/17/2009 1:54 PM (GMT -7)   
Thank you Carol! That is very good information. It is a great reminder to all of us! :-)

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AlwaysRosie
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   Posted 2/17/2009 3:51 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks Carol . . . . I'm always afraid that I'll be the one waiting for more evidence that it might really be "the big one". I'm learning that its always better to be safe than sorry.

Blessings!

In His Grip

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Butterflake
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   Posted 2/18/2009 7:29 AM (GMT -7)   
This is great info Carol. Like Rosie, I picture myself waiting for more evidence. Very Baaaaad! Thanks Sweetie.

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PattyLatty
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   Posted 2/18/2009 9:54 AM (GMT -7)   
Carol,

That's valuable information, and the reason I was concerned about you when you were having chest pains.

How's your father? I hope he's showing improvement.

Pat
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SmurfyShadow
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   Posted 2/19/2009 3:15 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks Carol, now you reassured me that my roommate, while driving her city bus (she's a bus driver) did the correct thing when I had pain. Mine has a different ending though...

On a city bus, I'm just chatting with my roommate, who is the city bus driver. All of a sudden I felt like this bubble traveling up and exploding like a bomb over and over. It was so painful that I would stop talking, and my knuckles turned white on the pole, that I was holding, biting and just shear pain written all over my face. She asked if I was ok, I was said "I think so, I just felt like I had a little man beat me with a hammer traveling up to inbetween my chest and then exploding a bomb." She didnt like my answer but kept driving. After about 5 minutes of me doing that off and on, she pulled over the bus, called dispatch and had them call 911, even though we were less than a mile from the hospital. Paramedics came, didn't believe me at first, til I had a wave of it, then they saw I so was not faking it. Got hooked up, loaded on a gurney and went to ER. Got to ER, the doctor thought I wasnt telling the truth, he's sitting and talking to me...the wave comes, I stop talking and I grip the hospital railing so tight my knuckles turn white. After the second wave, he looks up and sees there is no way I am faking this pain. Put me on EKG, but it was normal. Found the cause, believe it or not, it was a Severe Acid Flux attack.

A few weeks prior I was in the ER with a severe allergic action, and they found a begign heart murmer, and was advised to seek immediate medical attention if I noticed anything different....boy I did, with a grand entrance, but got so embarrassed when I was told acid reflux!

Rumour is the pain can be very similar from what I heard.
 
Smurfy Shadow
 
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AlwaysRosie
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   Posted 2/19/2009 7:14 AM (GMT -7)   
(((((((( Smurfy )))))))))

I know a couple people who have both heart issues and reflux. They both say that even THEY can't tell the difference between the pain of reflux and the pain of angina or a heart attack.

My brother-in-law says that he takes a drink of water. The water can temporarily ease the pain of reflux as it wash the walls of the esophagus. If the pain doesn't stop momentarily with the water, he uses his nitroglycerin or calls 911.

I'm glad you are ok. Have you elevated the head of your bed? I was able to get off my GERD meds after hubby placed block of wood under each foot of the head board. Doctor suggested it and it worked.

Blessings!

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okie
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   Posted 2/19/2009 7:53 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi everyone, I'm glad the information is helpful for some of you. I know I have been having a lot of problems but I think mine has to do with my lungs are getting larger and pushing against my ribs and causing discomfort.
I'm sorry I havn't been very good at getting back to all of you. Every time I do somthing it seems to turn out wrong. I feel like going to bed and pulling the covers over my head.
They moved my dad last night to rehab. He walked a little with a walker. So every little improvment is a good one.
I hope you are all doing well
love ya
carol
 CAROL
Possible scleroderma.  stage 4 COPD, sleep apnea, Osteoporosis,osteoarthritis
Prednisone,plaquanil400mg,azythromyacin,vicodin 4x5mg,Evista60mg, Effexor 150mg,Xanax 1.0 x3,Singular,nitro spray, provigil 200mg spirivia,aciphex,lasix ,pot.chlor.,B12 ,iNDEROL
 
Bear ye one another's burdens
Galatians 6:2 KJV

 
 


ivy's mom
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   Posted 2/21/2009 1:13 PM (GMT -7)   
Carol,
My mother had a heart attack 2/12/09 and her symptoms where just like yours. To a tee. She had 3 stints put in and they found out she has hardening of the arteries due to being a diabetic for 35 years. She is 74 and because my sister was there I know we will have her for many more years. Thanks for your sharing.

Ivy's mom
Becky

okie
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   Posted 2/21/2009 6:47 PM (GMT -7)   
Wow Ivy, that must have been scarey! That was only a week ago. Thank goodness your sister was there. Your mom is about the same age as my mom. I feel fortunate to be 51 and still have both my parents. I got to talk to my dad today. He sounded good. He knew where he was but he wants to come home. I'm sure we can all relate to that. They want him to stay up in a wheel chair and he wants to go back to bed. I told mom to get some handcuffs and cuff him to the wheel chair. LOL.
Smurf I had something like that happen to me before. They actually call esophagial spasm a corinary spasm because the nerves from both go up around your heart. There is nothing to be embarrassed about it hurts and it's scarey. and better safe then sorry. Sounds like rosey gave you some good advice. You know our bothers have been through the wringer. You just never know.

have a great night
love ya guys
carol
 CAROL
Possible scleroderma.  stage 4 COPD, sleep apnea, Osteoporosis,osteoarthritis
Prednisone,plaquanil400mg,azythromyacin,vicodin 4x5mg,Evista60mg, Effexor 150mg,Xanax 1.0 x3,Singular,nitro spray, provigil 200mg spirivia,aciphex,lasix ,pot.chlor.,B12 ,iNDEROL
 
Bear ye one another's burdens
Galatians 6:2 KJV

 
 

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