Thymus extract. VERY INTERESTING!!!!!!

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peacesoul
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   Posted 5/13/2007 3:52 PM (GMT -7)   
Has anyone heard of Thymus extract? Does anyone use it for their illness?
My Mom heard a Dr on the radio talking about how important it is to take Thymus extract for auto immune illness.
So found this info. Please read. Go down to the disease section if you don't want to read the entire paper.
 
What do u think???????
 
 
 
Jen

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   Posted 5/13/2007 4:19 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Jen, well I read it and the first thing I thought was WOW, that sounds wonderful and the second thing was if it sounds to good to be true it probably is. It's worth asking the doctor about but I wonder how many of them really know anything about it. It's somthing I would like to find out more about though.

thanks for sharing the link
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   Posted 5/13/2007 4:39 PM (GMT -7)   
I agree with Okie. It is too good to be true. Also, what kind of journal was this article published? If it is published in some scholarly and important journal, then it is worth it to take note of it, but it is good to learn more about it though.

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   Posted 5/13/2007 4:47 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Jen:

I agree with Okie and Omega. This sounds way way to good to be true. I read the whole article and I seriously question the validity of the report. I notice that the said that the test cases where children between 8-15, and a small group of adults. I'd be leary of this, take the article to your rheumy and let them read it and see what they say.

Good luck to you.

Barbara
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peacesoul
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   Posted 5/13/2007 5:50 PM (GMT -7)   
It does sound too good to be true, but it's worth looking in to. From what I am reading, there is no known side effects and it's very safe.
I'm going to email it to my rheum and take it to my endo, but I know they will give me that look........you all know that look I am talking about...haha!
I don't know which journal it was published in. I was just googling it after my Mom heard a Dr on the radio today talking about it.
If any of you find anymore info, please post up!
I'll keep looking

Jen

peacesoul
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   Posted 5/13/2007 5:52 PM (GMT -7)   
Here is a link of the Doc who wrote this paper

http://www.futureformulations.com/whois.html

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   Posted 5/13/2007 7:03 PM (GMT -7)   
Um. The guy who wrote this paper is a PhD, not an MD. He does work in nutrition, not in medicine.

Additionally, this is a summary paper -- that is, it contains single-paragraph references to a number of other papers. There is only one reference to any studies regarding lupus, and like Barbara Lee said, it is one very small study that focuses on children.

The actual paper being referenced is "T-activin in multimodal treatment of systemic lupus erytheniatosus in children", by Katasheva VI, Tarasova LR, Zairat'iants OV, Belokrinitskii DV,
published in Pefiaida. 1991, (3): 47.

The main author and the publication do not seem to be referenced anywhere. So while this may be something that develops in the future, I seriously doubt any rheumotologist today will be recommending any treatments involving thymus extract.

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Victoria72
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   Posted 5/14/2007 6:41 AM (GMT -7)   

Jen,

Thank you SO much for the link!!!  Its very interesting and reassuring that there are those who are researching natural treatments for our disease.

 

Blessings,


 
Victoria
 
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peacesoul
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   Posted 5/14/2007 2:12 PM (GMT -7)   
Lynnwood said...
Um. The guy who wrote this paper is a PhD, not an MD. He does work in nutrition, not in medicine.

Additionally, this is a summary paper -- that is, it contains single-paragraph references to a number of other papers. There is only one reference to any studies regarding lupus, and like Barbara Lee said, it is one very small study that focuses on children.

The actual paper being referenced is "T-activin in multimodal treatment of systemic lupus erytheniatosus in children", by Katasheva VI, Tarasova LR, Zairat'iants OV, Belokrinitskii DV,
published in Pefiaida. 1991, (3): 47.

The main author and the publication do not seem to be referenced anywhere. So while this may be something that develops in the future, I seriously doubt any rheumotologist today will be recommending any treatments involving thymus extract.

Being a PHD does not mean you have less input, insight and experience. The only diff is one can presribr meds and one cannot.
Are you a non believer in ND's and Homeopathy or Phd's?
Phd's are the Dr's who are in researc and discover the  meds for illness
Agreed, this paper is not the end all, but this is only one pc of info I found.
I am sure  a MD would either not know about Thymus or acknowledge it, but hey these are the same ppl who have been calling Lupus, Lyme and CFS patients crazy.

I think there is something to be said about this thymus extract. I will find more info and speak with my MD's and see what else I can find out so I can share it will all of you.
 
Just keep in mind, Md's used to put ppl with Syphlis in mental hosp's b/c they did not know what Syphlis was and just called all sufferers crazy
 
Will keep u posted ladies and gents
 
Jen

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   Posted 5/14/2007 2:37 PM (GMT -7)   
I have a PhD. So I guess by your own argument I have every right to say this is bogus. However, that is not what I said.

I simply followed the trail of what you presented, told people what I found, and expressed my opinion. There is no reason to question my personal beliefs, they really have nothing to do with this.

We are all here to support each other.
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okie
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   Posted 5/14/2007 5:38 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Jen, I read an article on healthnet that thymus such as would be found in vitamin type form is not regulated by the FDA. and it comes from bovine. Which in turn could be infected with mad cow disease. However I believe we will only go forward on finding new/safe medicines. Perhaps some day they will make a synthetic thymus drug? In this information age nothing would surprise me.

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peacesoul
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   Posted 5/14/2007 5:54 PM (GMT -7)   
okie said...
Hi Jen, I read an article on healthnet that thymus such as would be found in vitamin type form is not regulated by the FDA. and it comes from bovine. Which in turn could be infected with mad cow disease. However I believe we will only go forward on finding new/safe medicines. Perhaps some day they will make a synthetic thymus drug? In this information age nothing would surprise me.

hugs
carol

Hi Carol :-) Hope you're feeling a ton better :-)
I thought the same thing seeing that the extract is from calf thymus. I do not eat meat so I would have a tough time taking it from that source.
They also get it from rabbits.
All holistic /homeopathic remedies are not FDA approved. Most do not need fda approval.
Also the FDA approves meds that pharmacuticals that pay biggest $. The FDA has approved meds that have killled ppl.
I don't have a ton of trust in the FDA
 
I just thought this was a small tidbit that may be of some interest to research some.
 

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   Posted 5/14/2007 6:01 PM (GMT -7)   
Lynnwood said...
I have a PhD. So I guess by your own argument I have every right to say this is bogus. However, that is not what I said.

I simply followed the trail of what you presented, told people what I found, and expressed my opinion. There is no reason to question my personal beliefs, they really have nothing to do with this.

We are all here to support each other.
Cheers,

Was not questioning your personal beliefs? And of course u can call this bogus. But as a PHD, calling something bogus after only reading one article is kind of strange! What is your PHD in?
 
Yep, entitled to your opinion as am I.
I also did medical reseach for 8 yrs. But I am no PHD
 
 
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