My weight is killing me- got to get it together

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cured4real?
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   Posted 8/8/2007 7:36 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi--
As many of you know I have liver problems and it is critical I lose weight.  I'm also on a strict low carb diet which is due to a metabolic disorder related to my liver.  When I go over 185, which puts me at obese, my liver enzymes skyrocket and I get sick and gain more and more weight due to my liver not working right, it just seems to snowball. 
 
My bf wants deserts and my son and it is so hard for me.  I've told them not to let me have any, but then I've been bad and eaten it anyway.  Not much, not enough that it should be effecting my weight so drastically but it is.  I really restrict my carbs and have to get back down to 12 grams for a while which means eating just meat and salad and one slice of bread or bowl of high fiber oatmeal or something.  I'm usually really strong, but lately its like not even me saying yes to this stuff.  Its just automatic.  My bf says he doesn't care how much weight he gains, he's going to eat what he wants, but he does really hard physical work and is in shape, relatively.  My son is so skinny I want to give him cheesecakes every day.  he's very fit.
 
I have two barriers to exercise and since it does so little to burn calories compared to how much you have to do, I don't do much.  I have exercise induced asthma, hypoxemia--lack of oxygen, fibro, chronic fatigue and bad chronic pain and limitations due to spinal surgeries and problems.  My knees are bad and swell and get heat.  It seems the more I exercise, the worse I feel. 
 
Does anyone have any answers, tricks, words of strength, something?  If I can get down to the low carbs and stay on it long enough I wont crave them anymore, I went for a few years without sweets, but I can't seem to get back down to where I was.  It just seems like so much work, different food for me, and I'm so sick of it.  I know I must do it but I tell myself I don't care, I can get away with it just this once.  And to top it off, my diabetic dad whose sugar is outof control, brought me and him a birthday cake and tempted me alot to eat it.  I pushed it away once, but everyone made me feel like I was a party pooper.  I hate diabetes, I hate my liver.  I wish I was skinny again.  I'm worried because there is a 20 year window I may be in, I'd be 15 years down the line, so in five years I could really have serious, serious problems.  I think I've been fed up because I work so hard to keep my liver ok and lose weight and can't and lately its just been getting worse no matter what I do.  I'm afraid to see the hepatologist because he will yell at me again about my weight.  I'm ready to ask for medically necessary weight loss documentation so I can get medicare to help me lose weight but at 190 I'm not heavy enough.  I need some help with this.  Any ideas?
 
Also, can my pain meds be causing me to gain weight?  They make you constipated and maybe you absorb more than you normally would.  Maybe fiber?  I'm trying to avoid gluten as well as things that irritate my chronic bladder condition.  Its a nightmare.  I'm really scared now.  I've worked so hard and made virtually no progress and am in more pain and harder to exercise than ever.
Love, Marji
--Doctors are men who prescribe medicines of which they know little, to cure diseases of which they know less in human beings of whom they know nothing.--Voltaire (1694-1778)
Ills--Sjogrens-Lupus-like AI Disease, Hashis, Vitiligo, spinal stenosis/fusion with plate, salivary/lymphectomies, Diabetes, NAFLD, COPD, RLS, neuropathy, trigonitis, hystero, diffuse brain atrophy
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sharentrials
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   Posted 8/8/2007 10:15 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi, Marji. I'm so sorry you're going through this. Weight loss can be so very difficult. I don't have a lot of experience with this as I am just beginning it for myself; only for controlling my blood sugar (not for weight loss). You need to pick up the book "The Sugar Solution" by the editor's of Prevention magazine with Ann Fittante, MS, RD. This book explains how sugar is responsible for weight gain, memory lapse, mood swings, and fatigue. You can loose weight by following this plan too. This is not just a diet, it's a whole new way of eating. You just have to be committed to it. (I had no choice, it was either control my blood sugar or have my skin rot off my toes.) You will learn how your body converts foods into glucose and how to alter the process by what you put in. I was very surprised at which foods do what. It explains the glycemic index and puts it in practical language that's easy to understand. It is a big change for me as I was not the most healthy eater to begin with, and I am a dessert lover! I haven't eaten any hamburger meat in 2 and half weeks. It explains what lean meats are best for you and in what portion. I picked up my copy at a McKay's Used Book Store, and it is the 2006 edition. I hope this helps. Maybe some others will have some different ideas. I am controlling my blood sugar and I have lost a few pounds so far, but it's only been a short time for me. I can see what they're saying ending up being realistic though. It's the kind of thing where you hit yourself on the head and say, "Ohhhhhh, I knew that!" Good luck with whatever you try.
Always looking for the silver lining, Sharen

SLE '06, Sjogren's '06, Traumatic Head Injury '94


okie
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   Posted 8/9/2007 4:51 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Marji, Do you have the atkins book? It sounds like that is the kind of thing you eat. I have a few tricks I use when people come over for dinner. I make dessert with sugar free jello, fruit cocktail that I rinse off and when it jells up I mix low fat whip cream in it. There are very few carps in that dessert and people can't tell the difference. My dad is a sugar freak and he didn't know so I didn't tell him. I must of made it 6 times and he could never tell the difference. Even if your family wants omthing else you could have that and get your dessert fix. There are also exercises for building up your upper body strength to help you breath easier. The saying eight glases of water a day is a good thing. It truely does make a difference. It helps flush out your system. Keeps toxins out of your body. It may help with constipation. The low carb diet also can cause constipation so water is a big part of that eating habit. Pain pills are not normally known for putting on weight. If anything they make it so you aren't as hungry. You are right though. Once you get passed the first week of being on low carb you almost have to force yourself to eat. But it does you know good to eat proper low carb foods and than finish it off with a piece of cake. That completely throws off the way your body is burning fat. So you will really have to find desserts that you can eat. Even if others are having choclate cake. As for meal time it shouldn't be to hard to give them a potato and bread you have more fresh salad. Somties instead of the reg. salad I will put clery and cream cheese on my plate with some cucumbers and vinegar. or some sliced tomatos. Even if you do all three of those things in one meal you will feel like you are getting plenty to eat(and you are) but you aren't getting the carbs.
Good Luck
love
carol
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cured4real?
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   Posted 8/9/2007 10:09 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks Carol, sharentrials,
I will have to pick up that book on sugar, I have a special diabetic problem that is a glycogen storage problem, my liver converts carbs into fat and sugar and stores it in my liver much more than it should instead of burning it as fuel. The part of my liver that is responsible for burning fat does not work well, perhaps where most of the damage is. I've been looking for an easy to read detailed description of how this works. Even though I was trained long ago as a medical assistant, I always had trouble with this part because it is very complicated.

Yes Carol, per my hepatologist, GI, and primary care, I'm an Atkins dieter and had no problems for a long time and it has been the only diet in which me, in particular, can lose weight. I need to go back into induction-- I lost 60 lbs on Atkins and had kept it off- going on maintenance for about three years, my liver functions had returned to normal and I felt a lot better about myself and didn't crave any sweets. But then I broke down a while ago and just can't get back on it. Thanks for the desert tips and advice. It just helps so much to get ideas from people that sound good and are healthy.

I made a big greek salad yesterday, should be pretty safe and have started soups for lunch due to nausea and that has worked well. I need to get some cucumbers, I used to make them with viniger and a little splenda and they were really good. In the last few days, I've goofed up once or twice, but even so managed to drop a few pounds. I just need the gumption to say goodbye to key lime pie and all that crap that is just no good. Maybe someday I can find a simple recipe for a sugar free keylime pie that I could make with cream cheese and cool whip and splenda and a nut type crust or topping. The heat is so bad here those kind of summer citrus stuff sounds so good.

I know you know on Atkins you are never really hungry if you don't want to be. In fact, you may spend more time eating, less, but much more frequently. Its hard with fatigue and all to precook the meat and stuff, but I will have to try to enlist family to help me. Can you freeze cooked chicken breasts and other cooked meat? Does it sap the nutrition? I'm a freak about pressure cooking and only pressure cook fresh vegetables in a stainless steel pressure cooker I bought when my ex and I were into making Indian food. I only use stainless and cast iron and canola and olive oils.

I think part of the problem is that I turned to sugarfree deserts and snacks that had more carbs than I thought, and with the heat (and my sun sensitivity) its not safe to walk, even at night we are over the 90s. If you have a favorite easy to make sugar free low carb recipe, I'd love to have it. I had a piece of splenda peach pie made just the way you describe, I think with some small type of sugar free crumb/nut crust. I have the cookbooks too, but the recipes I've tried have been pretty bad and I find people often have better recipes.

Maybe I will experiment with the key lime sugarfree dessert or tart or something. It might give me something to do. I can have as much fat as I want, since for me, eating fat triggers my body to burn it. Lowfat is a big no-no, I get bad and gain a lot.

Thanks so much for the encouragement and support. I think you're right, Carol, the reason the gain and liver levels are so quick and dramatic is that my body isn't used to eating sweets so I shock it really bad, even with a small amount, because the rest of the day I eat as I should.

Thanks so much. I will have to give up my one pack of weight control oatmeal for breakfast, probably, because it will be all my carbs, though it really lasts me more than halfway through the day and the fiber is good, but I can go back to it once i get through induction. Well, I guess today is day one of induction, again.
Love, Marji
--Doctors are men who prescribe medicines of which they know little, to cure diseases of which they know less in human beings of whom they know nothing.--Voltaire (1694-1778)
Ills--Sjogrens-Lupus-like AI Disease, Hashis, Vitiligo, spinal stenosis/fusion with plate, salivary/lymphectomies, Diabetes, NAFLD, COPD, RLS, neuropathy, trigonitis, hystero, diffuse brain atrophy
Meds--Plaquenil, Evoxac, Metformin, Synthroid, HCTZ, Estradiol patch, Prosed, Klonopin, Soma, Ultram, Vicodin, Restasis, Albuterol,steroid injections, Protopic & Triamcinolone Acetonide ointments


dbab
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   Posted 8/9/2007 10:34 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Marji,
 
I dont' know if this is one you can eat but I googled low carb key lime pie and this was the first one to pop up... looks yummy tongue
 
http://www.lowcarbluxury.com/recipes/recipe-cake07.html
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cured4real?
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   Posted 8/9/2007 10:45 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks Des! I bookmarked that site. You're right, does sound great and I have almost everything, even the almond flour. I tried making a crust from almond flour but it fell apart I bet the coconut is key. And at 4 grams per serving its fantastic! Thanks so much! I'm so stupid I never use my computer for recipes, didn't even think of it!
Love, Marji
--Doctors are men who prescribe medicines of which they know little, to cure diseases of which they know less in human beings of whom they know nothing.--Voltaire (1694-1778)
Ills--Sjogrens-Lupus-like AI Disease, Hashis, Vitiligo, spinal stenosis/fusion with plate, salivary/lymphectomies, Diabetes, NAFLD, COPD, RLS, neuropathy, trigonitis, hystero, diffuse brain atrophy
Meds--Plaquenil, Evoxac, Metformin, Synthroid, HCTZ, Estradiol patch, Prosed, Klonopin, Soma, Ultram, Vicodin, Restasis, Albuterol,steroid injections, Protopic & Triamcinolone Acetonide ointments


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   Posted 8/9/2007 11:41 AM (GMT -7)   
When it's too hot to walk outside, I sometimes go to a mall and walk there. The traffic is a bit more, but the A/C sure helps!

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