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Butterflake
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   Posted 8/29/2007 6:00 AM (GMT -7)   
I was wondering if any of you meditate and if so, did you take a course?  Can you give me recommendations and/or info on meditation?
Dx: SLE diagnosed 2005, major depressive disorder, diabetes, fibromyalgia, gerd, sleep apnea, hypertension, IBS
Tx: plaquenil, methotrexate, Imuran, prednisone 10mg, flexeril, prozac,  celebrex, lisinopril, actos, lipitor, nexeum, seroquel, arthritis tylenol  PRN: ambien, neurontin, promethazine, xanax
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CNSKris
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   Posted 8/29/2007 6:42 AM (GMT -7)   
Donna:

I meditate some normally, when the flares hit I usually meditate constantly. I did not take a course but have read a few books on the subject years ago. In the past I had difficulty with panic attacks and trained myself to meditate to calm my emotions down. It was successful. I now do it to calm my body down, sort of speak, and release negative energy. It sounds kooky but it seems to work for me and I heal quicker. If nothing else, it gives you peace of mind, body and spirit. We all need to give ourselves a break once in a while.

What I did to learn mediation was to go into the bookstores and library and find interesting books that I found suitable for the goal I was trying to achieve. I also looked into Shaman and Reiki information also as I found the energy transference to coincide with what I was trying to achieve. Honestly, those times I have been laid up in bed were the best times to read up and practice this art.

I wish you luck and hope you benefit as I have. Hugs - Kristin
 
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cured4real?
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   Posted 8/29/2007 12:57 PM (GMT -7)   
I have meditated and do meditate frequently, mostly because I can't find two brain cells to rub together to spark a thought, but whether intentional or unintentional, I'd like to believe the benefit is the same. I live out in the country and I like to sit quietly and watch out the window, go for walks and really tune in on the things around me and tune out all the noise in my head. I also like to meditate floating in my pond, that is the ultimate. I can fall asleep there if I'm not careful. Also, another nice thing is to go out on your porch, fire escape whatever at night with a blanket wrapped around you and sit out, especially on those brisk fall nights, and look up at the stars. Sometimes I just hurt and need to "chill" by laying down and just "getting hold of things" by clearing my mind and meditating, gping to my happy place, whatever. I find the exclusion of noise to be very very helpful in living a peaceful, low stress life, even good noise like music. I just think its unnatural for us to be around a lot of noise and I think those noise reduction headphones are a great idea for people in the city. I don't know how I stood living in the huge cities I used to live in. Now, I notice a lawnmower running or an insistent mockingbird. I don't think a course is necessary, but goodwill or any book store has great videos that help you learn to meditate and several book are out on techniques for meditating. It just seems funny to take a course where they teach you to think of nothing, perhaps a major my son should look into. He does so hate having to think! I did take a college course in therapeutic Japanese ****su massage and that was well worth it, if only for the free massages!
Love, Marji
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Butterflake
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   Posted 8/29/2007 3:14 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks for the info Marji and Kristin.  I have a friend in Missouri who took a course years ago and has meditated daily since, so that's why I asked.  I think books and possibly tapes sound like good ideas.  The book I've been reading "Taking Charge of Lupus" mentions meditation and/or prayer to relieve stress.  Simple yet effective, doh!

Dx: SLE diagnosed 2005, major depressive disorder, diabetes, fibromyalgia, gerd, sleep apnea, hypertension, IBS
Tx: plaquenil, methotrexate, Imuran, prednisone 10mg, flexeril, prozac,  celebrex, lisinopril, actos, lipitor, nexeum, seroquel, arthritis tylenol  PRN: ambien, neurontin, promethazine, xanax
supplements: multi vitamin, C, flaxseed oil, calcium/D
             Better living through chemistry :D    Donna
 


hippimom2
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   Posted 8/29/2007 5:08 PM (GMT -7)   
Donna, I went to a few workshops over the years and some of them were helpful. There's lots of different kinds of relaxation/meditation and I think the key is to find what works best for you. I do more relaxation than meditation and I like both guided imagery (cd or tape) and I also use a lot of visualization. Even though I take meds to help me sleep, the visualization I do helps me go to sleep faster.

I do think that some type of meditation/relaxation/prayer or anything that helps you relax can be a helpful tool for dealing with lupus. I hope you find something that works well for you. Good luck :)
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emmi
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   Posted 8/29/2007 9:24 PM (GMT -7)   
Donna,

I got a couple of guided relaxation CDs. You are supposed to listen to them once a day for 30 days in a row. I haven't done that yet; I don't seem to be able to follow directions. Even so, I find them tremendously helpful. I think I'd find them even more helpful if I would do them 30 days in a row. I have a feeling the idea is that then I'd be able to get myself relaxed and calm without the CD instead of going into my usual tailspin before remembering, "oh, I should try to make time for my relaxation CD today". And it's not like I have so much to do. It's more like it takes me so long to do practically nothing!

Anyway, I think it's a great idea, be it meditation, guided relaxation/imagery, prayer and/or any combination. For me I'm finding a bit of this and that with a lot of reliance of my Faith--again when I stop and remember I am not "in charge"--works for me. Altho sometimes a good cry with my dog helps, too. Good luck and let us know what you try.

xoxo emmie
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cured4real?
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   Posted 8/30/2007 8:58 AM (GMT -7)   
Wow, I didn't know "She at Su" , can't spell it or it wont come out was a dirty word!
Love, Marji
--Doctors are men who prescribe medicines of which they know little, to cure diseases of which they know less in human beings of whom they know nothing.--Voltaire (1694-1778)
Ills--Sjogrens-Lupus-like AI Disease, Hashis, Vitiligo, spinal stenosis/fusion with plate, salivary/lymphectomies, Diabetes, NAFLD, COPD, RLS, neuropathy, trigonitis, hystero, diffuse brain atrophy
Meds--Plaquenil, Evoxac, Metformin, Synthroid, HCTZ, Estradiol patch, Prosed, Klonopin, Soma, Ultram, Vicodin, Restasis, Albuterol,steroid injections, Protopic & Triamcinolone Acetonide ointments


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   Posted 8/30/2007 1:55 PM (GMT -7)   
shiatsu is what my online dictionary says..... yeah

ocean1
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   Posted 8/30/2007 2:41 PM (GMT -7)   

Donna,

I hope you can find a form of meditation/relaxation technique that works for you.  There are loads of books at your local library (which is where I started a few years back).  I just read up on a lot of different techniques and found what works best for me is a relaxation guided CD.  I also try to take quiet time away from life for a while each day and listen to my ipod with my favorite soothing tunes and have learned to just "listen" to the music and block all other distractions out and this also helps me relax.  I also have a couple CD with sounds of the ocean or whale songs and sitting and just focusing on the sounds of waves or the sounds of whales works or me too.


Diane (ocean1)
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sharentrials
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   Posted 9/1/2007 11:45 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi, Donna. Thanks for this post! While in the big city yesterday, I stopped by the huge used book store. I bought a short, cheap book titled, "Teach yourself to Meditate in 10 Simple Lessons". It really seems like it will be an easy read; simple, straightforward, and friendly. The author says you can discover relaxation and clarity in just minutes a day. This one is not aimed at converting your religion, just helping you gain control of your wondering, rambling mind. I find myself getting SO focused on health issues all the time, I could just pull my hair out because my mind will not give me a break! I love to listen and sing along to my favorite contemporary christian artists while driving around when I have running to do. The problem with that is, it is not often enough and with all the crazy things I see in traffic it ends up not being very relaxing. Thanks for the idea. I'm going to give it a try!
Always looking for the silver lining, Sharen

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