Anyone get sores in the corner of your mouth?

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mamamuse
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   Posted 9/5/2007 1:14 PM (GMT -6)   
This has been one of those weird things for me, but I've it happen a couple of times this year. I get a raw, red sore right in the corner where my upper and lower lips connect.
 
I've had one now for about three weeks and it just won't heal. I've tried antibacterial, antiyeast, cortisone and even silvadene ointments and nothing seems to zap it. I'm pretty sure it's not a fever blister...I've had those, and this doesn't burn and tingle like fever blisters. It just hurts whenever I eat something or brush my teeth.
 
Anyway, just wondering if anyone's had these and if so, what works to make them go away! I figure it's linked somehow to the mouth and nasal sores I frequently get?

Thanks!
Kari
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PattyLatty
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   Posted 9/5/2007 6:38 PM (GMT -6)   
Kari,

I get lots of sores in my mouth, but nothing that sounds like what you describe. Have you talked to your rheumy or or his office about them? You might also look up lupus mouth sores photos on the web and see what you find there. I hope they go away soon because it's miserable having sores in your mouth!
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AmyTx
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   Posted 9/5/2007 11:35 PM (GMT -6)   
i do all the time its related to the nose and mouth sores.. it almost feels like an ingrown hair... maybe a form of herpes maybe.. i dunno hope it resolves soon
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Trying2BFree
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   Posted 9/6/2007 9:00 AM (GMT -6)   
If we are talking about the same thing, it's not really a bump or blister more like the corner is raw/irritated.  I've always been told it's a vitamin deficiency (now if I could only remember which one!).

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Butterflake
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   Posted 9/6/2007 11:14 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Kari.  I frequently get the sores you're describing on one or both mouth corners.  I saw a dermatologist re them several months ago and she injected them with cortisone and gave me a supply of cortisone cream to take home.  The injections cured them quickly, but they came back.  I put the cortisone on them and now they come and go.  Anyway I never found out what they were.  Hugs! 

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mom46
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   Posted 9/6/2007 2:47 PM (GMT -6)   

Hi Kari,

   I use to get them alot too. I think they are related to the  mouth and nose sores we get. It just takes longer for those to heal in the corner, since everytime you open your mouth it can crack back open. They are very painful!

  I haven't had any since I have been taking folic acid and my mouth and nose sores are gone too. Good luck and I hope this heals up quickly for you. Take care and keep us updated. You are in my thoughts and prayers.

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sharentrials
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   Posted 9/6/2007 4:23 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi, Kari. I can't know for sure if you're sores are exactly like what I deal with, but they sound they same. I apply some Novitra to mine daily. It not only helps them heal more quickly, but it takes most of the pain out of them too. If I use nothing, they will hang around a LONGGGGGGG time! Hope this helps. Take care.
Always looking for the silver lining, Sharen

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Lynnwood
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   Posted 9/7/2007 10:14 AM (GMT -6)   
I've always found that putting something with a Vaseline-type base on them overnight keeps them from scabbing and cracking while I sleep. If I'm not in public, I keep them lubricated during the day, too. If the scabs remain soft they seem to heal more quickly.

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sarazakmom
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   Posted 9/7/2007 4:31 PM (GMT -6)   

Kari,

I don't know if it is the same thing but I get sores in and around my nose, especially when I am sick or run down. I take Valtrex when I get them. If i catch it early the Valtrex usually stops it from spreading. Don't know if that helps but good luck. 


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Barbara Lee
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   Posted 9/7/2007 7:33 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Kari:

I get the nose and mouth sores inside of them. I however, have sores in the corners of my mouth currently. Like Lynnwood said the crack open every time I open my mouth. I also get fever blisters too, I take folic acid and valtrex when I get the fever blisters. I use standard old carmex for the corners of my mouth.

I hope your sores heal up soon. Let me know how they do and what you used for yours. Maybe you'll find something that works better than carmex.

Have a good weekend,

Barbara
dx fibro, SLE, glaucoma, cateracts, bells palsy, depression, migraine headaches, gastreopaersis, chronic anemia, RA,MDS (Blood Cancer). Tons of meds.


firebabe
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   Posted 9/7/2007 7:41 PM (GMT -6)   
I used to get those all the time.  My mom told me a was a vitamin deficiency too (someone else had mentioned that).  She told me to eat more oranges, which seemed to help.  Also, I have been taking folic acid (like someone else mentioned) and haven't had problems with them since, although I get them in the winter months more when my lips are dry.  I know that they are painful, and when you eat the orange it may even sting just a little, but oranges have always seemed to help mine.  good luck

kpeachy75
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   Posted 9/11/2007 4:27 AM (GMT -6)   
I used to get those during the year prior to my lupus diagnosis. They were the worst -- I'd get them in the corner of my mouth, they'd crack, etc! I used a combination of cold sore medicine and neosporin and they would go away and come back in another few weeks. Since the lupus diagnosis and the medication treatments that come with it, I haven't had one. I read somewhere that the cold sores are a symptom of lupus. Could your doctor maybe try valtrex?
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karasmommy
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   Posted 9/12/2007 10:41 AM (GMT -6)   
I think what you have is called cheilitis, this is an imflamation of the lips. 
 
I also tend to get this as I am heading into or am in a flare.  It can be a vitamin deficiancy or can be caused by the same bacteria that causes Thrush in your mouth.  Cheilitis is what causes the fissure type cracks in the corners of your mouth. I am dealing with this right now too. 
 
Google the word cheilitis and you should get a pretty good amount of information.  Your Rheumy or family dr. should be able to help you figure out what it is from and how to treat it correctly.
 
Hope this helps some.


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mamamuse
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   Posted 9/14/2007 10:48 AM (GMT -6)   

Thanks so much for the replies. I have been so busy lately, I kept forgetting to check in again.

The sore is STILL there! Thanks for all the useful hints. I will try them and let you know what works. I've never had one for more than a week; this one has been here for over a month. Sometimes I forget about it and yawn...OUCH!

I also have a nasty cold, so I wonder if that's what's prolonging it. Anyway...thanks again for all the ideas!


Kari
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Lupus (dx May '04), arthritis, PCOS, being tested for vasculitis and Behcet's
Now taking: plaquenil, limbrel, metformin XR, ibuprofen and the occasional percoset for pain


Missourimom
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   Posted 9/14/2007 2:18 PM (GMT -6)   
I get the mouth sores in the corner of my mouth as you described, matter of fact just got over one that lasted about 2 weeks.  I also get sores in my mouth and in my nose occasionally.  I notice I get them if I have been in the sun, really tired, stressed or having a flare.  I take prescription Acyclovir and it helps alot!  If I take it at the onset as one pops up it last about half of the normal time.  I also rinse with peroxide 2 or 3 times daily when I have one.  I was diagnosed with Lupus 2 years ago and have had these mouth/nose sores my whole life.  Good luck!

MJLD
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   Posted 9/14/2007 8:25 PM (GMT -6)   
It's funny this came up now. I have had sores in the corner of my mouth for 2 months. I've never been prone to cold sores. I do get thrush and the nose and mouth ulcers. God Bless, Judy

cabinkelly
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   Posted 9/13/2008 2:57 PM (GMT -6)   
hi all..i get the sores at the corners of my mouth a LOT...i didnt know what they were and still dont and btw i take vitamins/minerals each day so i know its not a deficiency....i use to try everything to get rid of them! all the otc herpes coldsore remedies, vaseline, neosporin, peroxide, alcohol, etc. nothing worked...then for the heck of it i rubbed some clearasil acne pads on it and let that dry then i use a Q tip and apply the clearasil acne cream on both corners afterwards...i do that each morning and before bed and they actually GO AWAY in a few days instead of hanging around for weeks... it really works so i thought id post it here as a possible help for those suffering with this....

suetoo
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   Posted 9/14/2008 8:12 AM (GMT -6)   

hi!

I get periodic crops of canker sores, usually 3 at a time, in my mouth, next time in my nose, once in a private spot, and they are associated with my personal pattern of flare and lupus symptoms. When I get colds, and a crack in the corner of my mouth, my eyes become unusually dry, (eye drop time), and scary, but rare, times when I have trouble swallowing. I find coating my lips with pure old vitamin A&D ointment in the car, and at night, helps alot. My dr. recommended poking a hole in a 400IU Vit. E capsule and dabbing the oil on the cracked spot. It helps me like a miracle cure. Also, an extra Vit. C tablet can't hurt. And I really try to eat as healthy as I possibly can. A key is keeping your skin and lips moisturized and protected from wind. So don't forget the basics of drinking extra quantities of just plain ole tap water. I crush fresh mint into sweet tea and add lemon to plain water and it makes staying hydrated when I am at work easier. I bring tea and water with me so I am not tempted get up and get coffee or pop. Hope you are feeling better, soon.

sue


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puccini914
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   Posted 9/14/2008 9:44 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Ya'll, I get them all the time.  My doctor said it was B-12 deffiency and I should take a super B complex.  I also use Carmex and it helps it heal a little faster.  I get the exact same thing you're talking about.  It looks like a hole and it cracks and hurts to open your mouth wide.  I'm taking B-12 and they have almost gone away, just a little tightness around the mouth.  Best of luck!!!

Jennifer

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Serina
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   Posted 9/14/2008 10:11 AM (GMT -6)   

I get the mouth sores you describe too.  also I get the sores in my mouth and in my nose on a regular basis.  i never associated them with Lupus until recently when the rhemutologist asked me about them.  and I have trouble swallowing.  Never considered that to be part of lupus either.

I use peroxide inside my mouth, and use a qtip to apply it to my outside mouth sores, and in my nose.  It stings, but it works for me.

Only one sore left in my mouth today and it is nearly gone.  If things happen as they have in the past, they will be back shortly.  I think mine may stay around longer because I have false teeth.  and the false teeth move, and when I bite down it keeps the sores irritated.  I have  had these sores on and inside my mouth and nose for a very long time.

Thanks for the information.  More symptoms to write down in my log of symptoms to take to the rheumy the next time I see him.
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suetoo
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   Posted 9/16/2008 12:27 PM (GMT -6)   
Yep, lupus is a "target organ disease", like it hits someone's kidneys, or like me, my central nervous system, but like the "S" in SLE, it is an illness characterized by systemic, all over the body, inflammation. Has anyone ever noticed the similarities in all the medicine we all take??? I feel not alone! And that's a good feeling.
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   Posted 9/16/2008 1:48 PM (GMT -6)   

It was one of the first things that I noticed, and was so glad to see it.  It was another way of knowing I am where I belong, where all of me is accepted just as I am.  and that is worth to me all the doctors in the world and their diagnoses.  to know I have good company as I walk this path, take this journey of life on earth.

Hester


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alexsal
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   Posted 9/17/2008 8:07 PM (GMT -6)   
I have been getting those sores on the corners of my mouth for awhile now didn't know
what they were. I am also getting sores on my tongue and I tell you it really hurts really raw. Any ideas on what couod cause that and what can I do to ease the pain. (not like i need something else to hurt) Alex confused
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Tá mé breá
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   Posted 9/17/2008 8:37 PM (GMT -6)   
Anemia can cause sores in the corners of your mouth as well.
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symptoms - malar rash, mouth soars (in and out), joint pain, extreme fatigue, migraines, heart pounding on light activity.

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   Posted 9/17/2008 10:33 PM (GMT -6)   
I get the sores I'm not sure if they are fever blisters or not but I take L-Lysine it is an amino acid. If I notice one starting I'll grab several of a morning and evening for a couple of days and they usually don't even come on out. I use to take 1 in the morning & evening as a way to keep them away. But money has been a problem so I haven't been doing it daily lately.
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