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   Posted 9/11/2007 1:28 AM (GMT -6)   
hello everyone!
does anyone happen to have arthritis as a result of lupus, and if so what are the first signs? would it appear in many joints or can it just be in one at first? the past couple days the area around my thumb knuckle has been hurting. It feels stiff and it hurt to move it or when it is pressed on althought it does not to appear to be swollen (yet). if I am starting to develop arthritis would it appear in only one of my joints? and if i do not have arthritis could this be the beginning of a flare? sorry i have so many questions it just worries me because my grandmother suffered from rheumatoid arthritis....

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   Posted 9/11/2007 2:55 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Cali,

Lupus can start in just the fingers. The thumb can be a starting point for gout too. It is really common for lupus to attack both sides at the same time. You can have just fingers affected for a LONG time w/o even knowing you have Lupus. Rheumatoid arthritis will give you a positive RH factor in your blood . . . the docs are really good about checking for it with our blood work to rule out rheumatoid arthritis . . . but look back at your records and make sure.

I had a soar thumb about 20 years ago. It felt like there were bits of glass in the joint. I went to the doctor with it because it last so long and they couldn't figure out anything. Eventually (a couple weeks) it went away and hasn't returned.

Hopefully some of the others will know more.

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   Posted 9/11/2007 7:39 AM (GMT -6)   
Ditto. Most lupus patients have arthritius. My baby fingers are kind of crooked due to arthritis. The swelling pains love to attack anywhere they like: shoulders, fingers, thumbs, wrists, any place u can think of. Some people got pretty bad pain when weather is humid/darn. Sometimes it may be a flare (if it's too much pain), but most of the time, I think it is just a part of us. It usually will go away after a while, and will be back whenever they like.
I had R shoulder pain for more than few weeks now, and not even has any sign of going away. Hope it will go away eventually. You can take pain killer (some are especially for joints) to ease the pain. If toooooo much pain, ask the doc if u can increase yr med. (e.g. Pred) on a temporary basis.

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   Posted 9/11/2007 8:06 AM (GMT -6)   
misscali, I don't have a lot to add to what Rosie and omega have said. I also have arthritis in my hands and fingers as a result of lupus and I've read that it's pretty common to get arthritis as a result of lupus. The good news is that arthritis caused by lupus doesn't damage the joints like RA, but it sure dose hurt.

Make sure you talk to your rheumy about this. There are some meds that should help give you some relief.

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   Posted 9/11/2007 10:23 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Misscali, I heard that too, what hippimom says and I get fingers, well thumbs and big toes, and knee pains and they get heat in them but they said that any arthritis in them is very very mild though it hurts alot. They chalk it up to fibro for me usually. I also have bad osteoarthritis and there are other conditions that run with lupus that can cause osteoarthritis that can be damaging to the joints and I've had surgeries on my neck and my whole spine has scoliosis and ruptured disks and compression. I think diabetes and hypothyroidism and some other stuff I don't remember contributes to osteoarthritis. It will heal itself in some cases if you can go under traction or fix that problem causing it, the spinal stuff. I didn't know that before I had my surgery.
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   Posted 9/11/2007 10:56 AM (GMT -6)   
Yes, lupus can cause inflammation in the joints that can look/feel just like arthritis. They can determine which might be bothering you by doing blood tests.

Mine has turned out to be lupus inflammation, and it comes & goes with weather, my activities, that sort of thing. The lupus meds take care of most of the problem, and mine is minor enough that ibrupofine (wish I could spell that word!) takes care of the rest.

Have your drs check and make sure what is causing this -- there are different meds for different causes!


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   Posted 9/11/2007 12:25 PM (GMT -6)   
Misscali, I'm sorry you're hurting. Other than fatigue, joint pain is the worse part of my lupus and it does move around. I hope you feel better soon.
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   Posted 9/11/2007 12:30 PM (GMT -6)   
hey everyone thanks so much for the advice, I have a doctors appointment next weel and i will ask her about my fingers and possibly a blood test for it.

I also have a bone density scan that same day....should i be worried? i have been on prednisone for a a while now...

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   Posted 9/11/2007 1:14 PM (GMT -6)   
My most recent bone density test showed no changes since the last one a few years ago. I've been on prednisone for over 2 years but take lots of calcium and take actonel once a week. Good luck
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   Posted 9/11/2007 2:32 PM (GMT -6)   

My arthritis is definitely from my connective tissue disease.  Even though I do not have a high SED rate or RH factor, my joints are definitely inflammed and in pain with some residual loss of function.  I started with arthralgia about 8 years ago, where the joints ache but no inflammation.  It was originally the wrists, then the shoulders and knees.  about two years ago, I had inflammation and pain in the hips (right more than left) and left knee, a year after that it was throughout my body and labled as rheumatic joint disease.  I usually have stiffness every morning and when I sit or stand for more than a few minutes on any given day.  But my severe joint pain only seems to come with flares and once in a while when it is very humid, rainy, etc.  I honestly don't know what typical rheumatory arthritis is.  But the doctor says mine is from the connective tissue disease.  They seem to go back and forth on the Lupus diagnosis.  At this point, doctors say they are certain it is either Lupus, Scleroderma, or MCTD but not positive which one. Originally, I was diagnosed with Lupus CNS a couple of years ago.  I am not sure why the confusion 2 years later.  It is certain however that the rheumatism is caused by of the 3 connective tissue disease. 

Hope this helps some.  I have a lot of confusion when it comes to what comes from where.  It seems like the age old question of what came first the chicken or the egg.  Never did figure that one out.  My best advice would be to go to the rheumatologist if your joint pain hits more joins, the pain worsens or you notice redness and swelling in any of your affected joints.

Best wishes - Kristin

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