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PattyLatty
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   Posted 10/19/2007 8:04 AM (GMT -7)   
My friend, the doctor of naturopathic medicine, recommended that I try the elimination diet. I started Monday and haven't eaten any wheat or dairy products. I've been pleased with the obvious side-effect which is weight loss, not too pleased with the hunger and cravings, but I woke up this morning feeling better than I have in ages. My joint and muscle pain is quite a bit less and I'm not real fatigued like I usually am in the mornings. At the beginning of the week I felt especially bad and fatigued so I've spent the week resting and don't honestly know if I feel better because of the diet or all the rest I've gotten, or both. But since I'm feeling better I'm going to keep up with the elimination diet. I've read about it and investigated it in the past but have never tried it. Have any of you had success with it? I think that you, Lynnwood, eat a healthy diet.

It's worth a try. :-) I'll let you know how it progesses.

Pat
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Lynnwood
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   Posted 10/19/2007 10:18 AM (GMT -7)   
Hahaha. Rolling on the floor laughing!!! Me? Eat a healthy diet?? HA HA HA.

I try, and I know I feel better when I do, but so many times I skip meals or have a quick coke and piece of cheese and call it a meal!

I feel better when I limit "white food" - breads, pastas, sugars, basically all the unhealthy carbs - and focus on clean protein -- low fat, non-processed protein --- and toss in a few salad/veggies for good measure.

Most of us don't know that we need about 40 grams of protein a day -- protein helps our blood and helps us heal as well as giving us long-term energy. Try just counting how much protein you normally eat -- I was so surprised when I first counted mine, I think it was below 20 then.

Now if I could just get a meal-preparer who would find/cook/cleanup the right stuff, as well as deliver it to me wherever I am....THEN I'd eat healthy!

Cheers,

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AlwaysRosie
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   Posted 10/19/2007 11:57 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Patty . . . watching this with interest. You are actually doing this in a purist method where you eliminate one food at a time and watch for results. To test it, after a fast from certain foods for a certain amount of time and, if you get a good result, you reintroduce that food briefly to see if it fails you again. LOTS of work!! It should also be done when you are doing a change in meds or uping meds. I have NOT had the discipline to go very far on such a diet . . . but I suspect that I really should.

Keep us posted.

Blessings!

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Razzle
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   Posted 10/19/2007 1:38 PM (GMT -7)   
Yeah, my feet hurt a lot worse before I went on a gluten-free diet. I actually had a podiatrist tell me my feet were hurting because of an allergy to wheat - at that time I thought he was nuts, but now I think he was right on. I was later diagnosed with gluten sensitvity.

There are a lot of great wheat and dairy alternatives - my Mom loves hazelnut milk, and I like Chebe tapioca dough mixes. I find my tastes changed pretty quickly once I committed to going gluten-free, and so now I prefer the taste of the gluten-free alternatives. Enjoy Life Foods makes some wonderful gluten/dairy free cookies, too.

Good luck with your elimination diet - it's hard, but those who persevere usually say it is well worth all the effort.

-Razzle
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Ginny
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   Posted 10/19/2007 3:37 PM (GMT -7)   

This is a GREAT topic.  Lynnwood, you're hilarious!

I'm trying to do a similar thing by eliminating certain foods to see if I stop FARTING!  It's out of control.  I can literally send my husband running down the stairs to get as far away from me and my stink bombs as possible..... You get the idea!

I saw my GI doc today about all this.  He laughed when I described the smell... "It is like death.  Like total rot".  He figures I have a pretty big bacterial overgrowth in my bowel.  I'm not allergic to wheat, we tested that.  But I am lactose intollerant.  BIG TIME.  But the farts happen no matter what I eat.  So I'm stumped.  I've been like this since that terrible medication allergy I had in June.  I'm seeing a dietition on Monday. 

So if anyone knows what else might be causing this gas please educate me! Oh, fructose is another trigger. I love fruit:(

I think it's great you're trying this Pat! Keep us posted on anything else you notice being good or bad to you!

Ginny


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Barbara Lee
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   Posted 10/19/2007 3:46 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey Patty:

Sounds like things are going a bit better for you. I've not tried to adjust my diet as you know with my gastroparesis I vomit almost everything I eat. I just wanted to say I'm glad to hear you're doing well and keep up with the diet. I wish you well and hope you continue to feel better.

Love,
Barb
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   Posted 10/19/2007 7:23 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey Ginny . . . I hate to bring up Kefir again . . . but it is so cheap and so easy and it SO replenishes your gut with good bacteria . . . it really straightens out poo problems too. You end up with a BM that simply passes w/o being loose or hard (I know, gross topic) . . . you think you did a tiny little one and lo and behold it is lots. Restores the lining on your intestinal walls. Every time I stop drinking it for a while, I end up going back to it.

Blessings!

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cured4real?
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   Posted 10/19/2007 9:17 PM (GMT -7)   
LOL. I'm with Lynnwood, low carb, high protein, no bread no taters, cheese and a coke sounds like my lunch sometimes. I should try the elimination thing, except that there's not much left to eliminate. Sugar is bad, sweeteners are horrible for my UT, carbs horrible for the liver and diabetes, beans and soy products bad for the UT and gi, vegetables sometimes bad for the gi depending, fruit in small quantities but produce here is so horrible there is nothing really ripe and its all from south america and awful, I eat a lot of berries from my own property when I have them. I have found the thing that really gives me a great feeling of well being is bison meat. That stuff is the best, low cholesterol, low fat, high quality protein. I do eat dairy, when I don't I still feel like crap. Nuts are no-no. Soup is great, and oatmeal and bananas. Its what I eat most of the time. Like a slightly expanded BRAT diet. Patty, let me know how it goes and what ends up bothering you or making you feel better. I would really like to know. I have these red patches on my colon and small intestine and have been very sick for a long time now and I tested negative for celiac, but it has the hallmarks of a food allergy or irritation. I just can't eliminate much more and remain healthy.
Love, Marji
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PattyLatty
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   Posted 10/19/2007 10:32 PM (GMT -7)   
Very funny Lynnwood. And here I thought you were such a purist. So far this is going well and I'm still having much less pain. I finally went to the market and bought things that I like. You're right Lynnwood about protein so I got sardines which have lots of (I think it's) Omega 3. I'm going to miss my oatmeal and cheese most of all and think that after a week I'll introduce some oatmeal for a couple of days and see how I feel. My favorite breakfast is oatmeal with blueberries and brown sugar. Add a few almonds and you've really had a feast.

Rosie, I'm going to delete everything from my diet - all gluten-free, no white carbs, no dairy. Then I'm to add one thing at a time and wait a day or two to see how I feel. You're right, it will take a lot of discipline but in the long run if it helps me feel better, it will be worth it. The hardest part of this is getting into the mindset and we'll see how long I last.

Razzle, I don't know what chebe tapioca dough mixes are but they sound good. I plan to get over to the health food store in a day or two.

Marji, this doesn't sound like the diet for you with all you have going on with your body and colon.

Ginny, I've had a bit of the same problem you describe and really can't control it. It's so embarassing. I'll let you know if it goes away.

And Barb, you don't need to be worrying about food right now. Just getting some kind of nutrition is such a challenge for you. How have you been feeling?

Well, off to bed. Have a great weekend all.

Love,

Pat
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