Blackouts?Won't wake up spell?

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TashaMseraph
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   Posted 11/1/2007 11:41 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi,
Ummm...I wanted to ask if anybody has had blackouts or a spell when somebody could not wake you. I honestly don't know what else to call it. On Halloween  I went to a friends to watch a movie. Anyways this friend knows I have Lupus so they are cool if I fall asleep during a movie. Well I had to work in the morning and they could not wake me. I was asleep for over 12 hours... no movement, shaking or sound caused me to budge. Totally zonked...when I woke up, I was dissoriented...fuzzy and slow. Everything was weird. My friend said I slurred like I was drunk but I never touch alcohol. It took me another two hours to get back to me...I am still really sluggish but I am a lot better. I called my Rheumy to see if this is something to do with Lupus but the office was closed by that time. I missed work and now I really don't know how to explain this to my boss and since the doctor has not called me back, I am thinking this is not really a big deal. To me it was really freaky! Scary freaky you know.... well its late and I am very tired even though I slept so long. So could some tell me if this is normal for Lupus or what when they check this? That way I won't be scared to sleep. Thanks

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AlwaysRosie
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   Posted 11/2/2007 6:05 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi/low glucose levels come to mind and as does alcohol. Even a small amount of alcohol mixed with some of our meds can cause some odd reactions. Even some OTC cold medications can interact with some rx meds. Hopefully you can talk to the docs office soon.

Just tell work that you are feeling ill, they have no right to ask for details unless you our out for an extended time.

Blessings!

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mom7
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   Posted 11/2/2007 6:13 AM (GMT -7)   

Hi there,

Having a experience with my daughter(CNS Lupus affecting the brain) acting disorientated and slurring her speach that turned into something way more serious I would see a Doctor as soon as possible to rule out the many possibilites it could be.  Not to worry but when it doubt check it out.

Sharon

 

 


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okie
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   Posted 11/2/2007 10:45 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Tasha, wow that's scarey. It sounds like the others here have got some ideas for you. All I can say is I agree you need to discuss this with your doctor. If your doctor calls maybe he can help you with somthing to tell your boss. I wouldn't automatically think it must not be a big deal just because they havn't called back. You might want to call again and let them know you are really serious.
I hope you get some answers soon
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Ginny
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   Posted 11/2/2007 10:57 AM (GMT -7)   
Whoa.  That doesn't sound good.  The first things that came to my mind were stroke or seizures. I'd actually get on the phone asap to your doctor.  What you went through is not normal.  Especially if you're still feeling "off".  The slurring of speach and acting like you were drunk are symptoms of both stroke and seizures.  Any time something out of the norm like that happens, either get to and ER immediately, or call 911.  I"m not saying you had a stroke or a seizure, but something happened that shouldn't have.
 
Keep us posted okay,
 
Ginny
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TashaMseraph
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   Posted 11/2/2007 2:36 PM (GMT -7)   
Well, my Doctor Did call me and said to go to an ER. They found that I had periodic amnesia for unknown reasons. No stroke or seizures. Thank God! Still kind of shaken from it but I am glad that it was not horribly major. So all my stuff is still working right (kinda) but I have to say this has been the weirdest yet in the drama series of Lupus for me. I used to seizures when I was about 16, they never found a cause then either. This was very similar, but I did not move or jerk like I did back then. I can say that when I was 16 I did not have the after effects like I have now....weird huh. Ohh well, I see my Rheumy again in a month and he knows about the "spell", so I figure hey, I lived, move on. I can only freak out for so long. They were very nice at the hospital, that made it a lot easier on me. So I have a day off and I think I am going to take it easy tonite. Thanks for all your support. You all are very awesome people!

With God all things are Possible.

Dx: Lupus (SLE)2002, GERD 1995, Depression 1995, Sleep Apnea 2006, IBS 2000, Migraines 2001, Anemia 2002, Seizures in 1995 (unknown causes).  

Meds: Cymbalta 60 mgs, Plaquinil 200mg once daily, Nexium 40 mgs


Ginny
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   Posted 11/2/2007 6:31 PM (GMT -7)   
Well, thank goodness it wasn't a stroke or seizures.  But amnesia is still serious!  I wonder why that happened?  Strange eh?  You have a very positive outlook Tasha, that will get you a long way!  Just be careful and if you feel weird call 911!
 
Have a good day off tomorrow!
 
Ginny
I can do anything through Jesus Christ who strengthens me. I have learned in whatever state I am in,to be content. Phillipians 4:11-13

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AlwaysRosie
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   Posted 11/2/2007 7:55 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks for the update Tasha . . . . wow was I way off . . . that's why we always suggest talking to the docs!!

I hope you'll keep us updated on this . . . glad you went to ER.

Blessings!

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Lynnwood
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   Posted 11/2/2007 8:19 PM (GMT -7)   
Glad they figured it out quickly - now hopefully you can avoid re-occurrence. I'm like you -- I can only be freaked out for so long !!!

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TashaMseraph
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   Posted 11/2/2007 9:11 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey You all,
Just to give an up date. I was talking to a friend who deals alot with different situations. Do any of you know anything about how date rape drugs work? She says that what I describe is almost exactaly like the reaction of a date rape drug. The doctors asked about the friend I was watching a movie with but when I told them about my pantyhose still being on, they kinda relaxed the questions. But the thing is my original date was a guy that was already drunk and I did not trust. I dropped him the first ten minutes of seeing him, but I did have a drink he gave me. I then went to watch a movie with my buddy shortly after. Like about thirty minutes. That is when I blacked out. So if anybody knows about that or where I can find info.I would be interested. I thank God and all the power's that be if that was the sittuation , I followed my gut and dropped that guy,. BUt either way Lupus or Date Rape drug I'd like to be informed. NOthing like this has ever happened with Lupus so I want to be cautious. Somebody must be looking out for me somewhere. :-)

With God all things are Possible.

Dx: Lupus (SLE)2002, GERD 1995, Depression 1995, Sleep Apnea 2006, IBS 2000, Migraines 2001, Anemia 2002, Seizures in 1995 (unknown causes).  

Meds: Cymbalta 60 mgs, Plaquinil 200mg once daily, Nexium 40 mgs


Leta
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   Posted 11/2/2007 9:49 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey Tash,

As for the date rape drugs, there are 3 that come to mind-Rohypnol (Ruffles/Ruffies), Gamma Hydroxy Butyrate (GHB/Chemical X) and Ketamine Hydrochloride (special K).

Rohypnol-A prescription sedative/depressant belonging to the Benzodiazepine family of drugs - it is produced worldwide by Hoffman-La Roche, Inc. The generic name for Rohypnol is Flunitrazepam. This drug is not manufactured or approved for use in North America but can be found as a street drug. The drug comes in pill form in .5, 1 and 2 milligram dosages. It is tasteless, colorless and odorless and can be crushed and added to any drink, including water, without detection. In the late 1990's as an answer to Rohypnol's popular use as a date rape drug, the manufacturer voluntarily changed the formula to change color when it comes in contact with liquid, but it is still easy to find in it's original generic formulation.

The most common effects include; disinhibition and amnesia, excitability or aggressive behavior, decreased blood pressure, memory impairment, drowsiness, visual disturbances, semi-consciousness, dizziness, confusion, stomach disturbances, and urinary retention.

It is quick acting, with noticeable effects occurring within 20 minutes of ingestion. Mixed without alcohol the effects last 8 - 12 hours, with alcohol the effects last longer, up to 36 hours. It can be found in the blood stream for 24 hours and in urine samples for 48 hours.

Gamma Hydroxy Butyrate-It is an odorless, colorless, liquid that acts on the central nervous system as a depressant/anesthesia. It was banned in the United States in 1990 under the Samantha Reid Date-Rape Prohibition Act of 2000. It is also illegal in Canada and many parts of Europe. It is not produced or manufactured by any pharmaceutical company; instead it is made in illegal drug labs or by amateur chemists in their homes.

The most common effects include: euphoria, amnesia, intoxication, drowsiness, dizziness, nausea, amnesia, visual hallucinations, hypotension, brady-cardia, severe respiratory depression, and coma. In lower doses the most common side effects are: drowsiness, nausea, and hallucinations. In higher doses the most common side effects are: unconsciousness, seizures, severe respiratory depression, and coma. Since the drug is not standardized it is impossible to be certain what dosage you are taking.

GHB begins to take effect 10 - 15 minutes after ingestion. The effects last for 3 - 6 hours when taken without alcohol and 36 - 72 hours when mixed with alcohol or other drugs. In very high dosages unconsciousness, or even coma, can occur within 5 minutes.

It looks like water.

Ketamine Hydrochloride-A legal drug sold as a veterinary sedative or hospital grade anesthesia and goes by the brand names Ketaset® or Ketalar®). Same family of drugs as PCP (phencyclidine). When used in humans the drug acts as a dissociative anesthesia; it renders the user vaguely aware of, but comfortably detached from, all bodily sensations.

The most common effects include; delirium, vivid hallucinations, cardiac excitement, mild respiratory depression, confusion, irrationality, violent or aggressive behavior, vertigo, ataxia, slurred speech, delayed reaction time, euphoria, thinking, altered body image, analgesia, amnesia, and coma.

This depends on how it is ingested. When taken orally or nasally the effects take 10 - 20 minutes to be realized. When taken intravenously the effects are instantaneous. The effects last less than 3 hours and the drug is detectable up to 48 hours depending on the method of ingestion. Often mixed with other mind-altering drugs, like heroin and cocaine, many people do not ever realize they have been given this substance.

In undiluted form it looks like an off-white powder, in diluted form it looks like slightly cloudy water.

Hope this helps with the information.

Leta
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