Oral Thrush--any advice?

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canuckgirl
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   Posted 11/16/2007 7:53 AM (GMT -7)   
Good Day Everyone hope you are all well,
 
So I woke up Sunday with a really sore tongue and to along with the sores I had at the corner of my mouth. Well now those sores are almost gone but I went to see the Dermy yesterday for my sore burning tongue and she says it's thrush and gave me diflucan for 5 days to take. My mouth is on FIRE my tongue is so gross and the roof of my mouth burns. Any suggestions on how to treat this with anything from home. Plus I have a cold so I am coughing which I am sure does not help. My mouth feels like it's full of glue.
 
 
The Dermy asked me if this is from dry mouth I don't think my mouth was dry before this I could eat a full meal without a drink and would often grab a dry peice of toast when running out the door to work. She says thrush is usually only in the mouths of people who were on antibiotics ( which I wasn't ) or people with Sjogrens so now she has me thinking I must have sjogrens then. Although I tested negative for the anti body twice.  But I just had my opthamoligist test and my eyes are fine and my nose is running from my cold so that is fine. Has anyone on here had thrush and does not have sjogrens? If you have had thrush does that make your mouth sore and feel dry?
 
Thanks for your help..we only have one dermy were I live so my options are limited
 
Angela
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hippimom2
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   Posted 11/16/2007 8:42 AM (GMT -7)   
Angela, there are a couple of things that could help with the pain of the thrush. There is an oral liquid you can swish around in your mouth that kills thrush - I think it's a liquid nystatin. THe other thing is called a "magic mouthwash". I think there are a couple of different forms of it, but the one I use is a mixture of malox, benadryl, and lidocaine. It doesn't kill the thrush, but it numbs the pain. The doctor has to order it and the pharmacy mixes it.

It's hard to say if you have sjogrens or not - not all people with it test positive for the antibody. It's something to talk to your rheumy about at your next appointment.

I hope you get some relief from your thrush soon.

Take care
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Ginny
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   Posted 11/16/2007 8:52 AM (GMT -7)   
Hey Angela,
 
thrush or yeast overgrowths in the stomach or vaginal yeast infections are VERY common in those of us with lupus or UCTD, fibro.  For some reason our immune systems like to produce all that crap.
 
I've found that taking a daily acidophilus suppliment (the good stomach bacteria that fights yeast), has changed my life.  I used to get yeast infections and have a furry tongue too.  You can get acidophilus from health food stores or a naturopathic doctor.  Just get the really good kind, not the cheap stuff.  They've made a huge difference for me.
 
Take care!
Ginny
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canuckgirl
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   Posted 11/16/2007 9:08 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks to both you of you for your answers! Ginny I did buy acidopilus but how much do you take mine says 2 a day I keep in in the fridge but to me that sounds like the amount a healhy person would take for maintenance. How about if you have yeast how many do you take? I did talk to my Rheumy he said " open your mouth" nope you have saliva I can see it it's not sjogren's. I guess it could just be the lupus/uctd thing( I really think they are the same) I didn't realize that people with autoimmunce disease's other then sjogrens had mouth issue's.

Thanks again
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Audrey Ann
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   Posted 11/16/2007 8:43 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Canuckgirl,

Thrush is common for lupus patients and you can probably take as much acidophilus as you would like. I usually double the original rec. dose for the first few days. It works wonders. Also, if you can get a doc to call in some Nystatin, it is helpful for soothing your sore mouth while the diflucan and acidophilus kick in. Good luck!
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misscali
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   Posted 11/16/2007 9:14 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey there I have had thrush a couple of times and I definitely do not have sjogrens. I had thrush when I was in the hospital and was one very strong antibiotics...When I had it. it seemed like I had lots of plaque and saliva in my mouth but it would not brush away. It was not necessarily painful but it was more annoying. Since I was in the hospital, they caught it early and treated it before it got really bad I think but nevertheless it was pretty gross. I think with thrush if it gets bad enough it can start to hurt. It especially hurt when I swallowed and I had a lot of acid reflux. It was just an all around gross feeling as there was bacteria growing in my mouth lol.
I hope this helps and I hope you get some answers for your sore mouth soon!

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   Posted 11/16/2007 9:54 PM (GMT -7)   
Angela,
I've had thrush a couple of times and was always prescribed the liquid Nystatin.  It is a bear to get rid of and sometimes you have to get the script refilled a couple of times.  You might soak your toothbrush in peroxide after each use and when you're symptom free replace your toothbrush.
 
Good luck!
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Ginny
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   Posted 11/17/2007 10:59 AM (GMT -7)   
Hey Angela,
 
My capsules have 15 billion organisms in each one, and I take one a day for maintenance.  But during a yeast flare, I would take 2 or 3 and within a week or so, I was feeling so much better.  Try to stay away from any foods that will "feed" your thrush.  Like bread, sugar.  I eat the yeast free bread variety. Also, any time you're on anti biotics, make sure you get the acidophilus into you after you finish the meds. 
 
It's good you keep the acidophilus in the fridge.  Smart!!!
 
ginny
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33 years old. Diagnosed with lupus in 2000. Fibromyalgia, anti-phospholipid syndrome(APS)(stroke),Sjogren's, Raynaud's, seizure disorder-(miraclulously disappeared!), Libman Sach's Endocarditis, vasculitis, sacroiliitis, neutropenia, thrombocytopenia. Prednisone, Imuran, Coumadin, Clobazam, Amitriptyline, didrocal, monopril, calcium, Cykolokapron, multi-vitamin, vitamin D, Magnesium, vitamin B6, Acidophilus

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