Teeth Ache f/Lupus?

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Lynnwood
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   Posted 11/17/2007 10:31 PM (GMT -7)   
Has anyone had their teeth ache as a symptom of Lupus or Sjogren's?

This isn't from grinding, bad/broken teeth, or bad gums. At night when things get still my teeth, mostly in the back, just ache. Not really hurt, but I find just the normal resting of top teeth on bottom generates a noticeable annoyance. Feels better if I keep my teeth from resting on each other -- but that really does take effort and isn't normal.

I don't think it's referred pain from anywhere; it also doesn't act quite like the random lupus inflammations I'm familiar with. No dry mouth symptoms. Just funky evening tooth ache! Werid, huh?

Just wondered if anyone has had a similar/same symptom associated w/lupus?

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okie
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   Posted 11/18/2007 6:30 AM (GMT -7)   

Hi Lynnwood, This doesn't answer your question but I had something very similar happen to me and my doctor had me get an xray and took me off of fosamax and put me on evista. There are some people who get what is called Dead Jaw symdrome from using fosamax. I had been on it a couple of years before she decided to switch me.

anyway I hope you get to the bottom of it soon

hugs

carol


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AlwaysRosie
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   Posted 11/18/2007 8:25 AM (GMT -7)   
Sorry Lynwood and Carol . . . ughhh, new one re that fosomax Carol!!

My old rheumy checked my jaws frequently for TMJ, which is common in Lupus, maybe because of general inflamation???

The paradid (sp?) is also in that area and can cause some aching . . . when its both sides like that, it gives me a bit of hint that it might be Lupus related and inflammatory. I think you could figure out by trying extra pred or anti-inflamms to see if it subsides.

If it is TMJ, a mouth guard would likely help and w/your rheumy appt a week away, I don't know if you should get in to see a doc before that or wait for that appt.

I hope the others have some help for you.

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Lynnwood
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   Posted 11/18/2007 11:19 AM (GMT -7)   
I just ran into Leta on chat and she told me her dentist said gums receding a bit on the back can expose a nerve from Sjogren's even though there may not be dry mouth. She said "They can seal it but my gums recede in lupus flares, I use Sensodyne toothpaste and Biotene mouthwash when it does this and it clears up. I also up my calcium, magnesium and potassium intake which helps. It takes about a week but feels better."

That sounds like it fits what's happening w/me, so I guess that's what I'll try.

Thanks, Leta!

Cheers to all,

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Mariepoms
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   Posted 11/19/2007 5:37 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Lynwood,

Funny you say that,i sometimes get jaw pain.I felt it a few times in the morning and in the middle of the night over the past two years.When i woke up in the morning and tried to bite down it was terribly stiff and painful.In the middle of the night i do find myself sort of grinding my teeth so i was thinking it might be TMJ but i also wondered if it was related to the Lupus.I will also have a dull ache in my ear associated with the jaw pain.I do have a positive Sjogrens titer but the other three tests for Sjogrens was negative.I dont have any dry eyes or dry mouth.So is this jaw pain Lupus related or some kind of early symptoms of Sjogrens???

P.S.I was at the dentist last year for a cleaning and NEVER had cavities.My dentist was shocked to have a 37 year old with no cavities and no form of dental work or fillings.

Fran

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   Posted 11/19/2007 9:17 AM (GMT -7)   

My teeth were great but my gums receeded so badly that I have almost all false teeth. they just kept getting loose and falling out. I didn't even have any cavities. Plus I have been suffering from TMJ symptoms lately. Horible popping pain that makes me want to cry but fortunately it only last a few seconds.

I hope you get to the bottom of it

hugs


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cured4real?
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   Posted 11/21/2007 11:04 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Lynnwood,
Sorry to hear about teeth. I hate toothaches, esp at night. I had four back molars crumble suddenly on one day in 1998 during a bad flare up of my disease, and had two break about two years ago. I also have had all these salivary glands and lymph nodes removed. Prior to my teeth breaking I had no sjogrens dx or receding gums or tooth infection. I didn't think I had dry mouth until I took evoxac, then my teeth tartar buildup improved dramatically and less stains and tooth pain and less gum bleeding. I think there is a nerve thing involved in that too, though I had four root canals the first time. I don't know why it all happened at one time in one day when I bit down on something. It was horrible. Possible vitamin deficiency and calcium might be contributing. I know dry mouth even somewhat mild will drasticallyeffect teeth. Also, check for tmj and think of buying an overthecounter night guard to protect your teeth from grinding. It sounds like you might have jaw tension and I'm sure lupus/CTD must make this worse, as would steroids which hype us up. I take klonopin but used to take valium for it. It will realy ache at night as you prep to grind during your sleep. I hope you feel better and sorry so long, I did read the post and am trying. Relaxation tape at night might help too. I use one when things get bad.
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