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Martha's Vineyard
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   Posted 10/25/2008 5:12 PM (GMT -6)   
I have had lyme for 4 years. My whole family has it. We were the lucky ones that found the tick and had a Dr. given me doxy for 60 days. But I was still sick and still got much much worse. I was going to be locked up for my depression and dementia. My life was gone. Could not work and when I lost my kids, well that was the last straw. I had even gone to germany and got more abx to fight the lyme. I got much worse. I could not drive, could not think,fevr everyday. no focus, so much pain, I mean at this point, really why live? I started to honesty think that my kids were better off with their great dad, and that I did not want them to watch me got this way.
I promised my Dr. that I would not take my life. And what really got me mad was finally realizing what was wrong with my 12 year old daughter...she had it too.
So only because I was so mad about my 12 year old starting to lose her whole life also. I decided to try this alternative medicine thing in Scottsdale AZ.
I got a port put into my chest on the 2nd week here. I checked into a hotel for 8 weeks. And 4 days a week they hook me up. I am on a strict diet, all healthy, but I have been like tht foreever anyways....so. But in one week I felt better. In the 2nd week I threw away all of my pill....cmbalta, ambien, zanax and the lamottine. All for the depression, pain, daily heart problems and panic attacks. My life sucked!
Well the 2nd week I felt odd. Everyone told me that I should had tapered of all of the drugs I had been on. Forget it. I wanted to see how I really felt. So at first I felt odd.
But I am now going into my 4 week. And I do not have one single symptom now. Not one! I do not have my fever, I do not have my daily migranes. i feel fine when I wake up. I can walk fine.
They put some much stuff into me. Alot of vitamins. But the key thing that they are putting into me is Colloidal Silver. I had never heard of this before. My Dr.s back in Palm Beach did care of me. But they told me up and down that abx did not work with cronic lyme. I have no reason to think that all of these dr.s who keep saying the same thing to everyone...are hateful people who enjoy watching you die....
I think that it has more to do with the education that they get. Even at Harvard medical, the never address diet or nutrition as part of recovery. That is like telling a women who weighs 400 pounds and who is dying of diabtes that her diet does not matter.
I am a gardener. I would not pour coke on all of my roses and expect them to grow. And nor should you. If you smoke, guess what happens? You get cancer. If you do not eat well and do not drink water and take tons of pills, you are going to die.
Silver was around for a long time before abx. It works great.
I am at a place called Envita. And I feel so much better.
I cam going to run out and see if I can buy some of this silver for my dog. Because Doxy did not work for him either. And I am not going to put him to sleep. He is in pain and is depressed. But they told me to give him silver too. So...
Instead of still putting tons of abx into your body which has not worked for ever. Do something different.
I guess I do not stand to make any money off of people if I tell them to eat right. not take drugs and to take silver. hmm.....good luck. I felt better in 7 days. What do you have to lose? I had lost my mind my life...now....I am screaming from the roof tops! By god...I think I have found it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I got Lymes in 2004. So did my 11 mos old daughter and my favorite dog Toto.


Dowa
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   Posted 10/25/2008 5:21 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey M: I was about to email you and saw your post here. That a girl!! Keep up the good work! I am SO happy they are helping you. Take care   D

Martha's Vineyard
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   Posted 10/25/2008 6:07 PM (GMT -6)   
HEY GIRL...GET YOURSELF SOME COLLOIDAL SILVER ASAP....
I WOULD LOOK FOR SOMEONE WHO CAN GIVE IT TO YOU INTRAVENOUS...BUT IF THAT IS GOING TO BE HARD....GET THIS STUFF IN YOU ASAP.....I AM TELLING YOU! I AM FREAKING OUT! EVERYONE HERE AT THE 4 SEASONS...ARE LIKE......????? ARE YOU ALWAYS THIS HAPPY????? EVERYONE IS LIKE.....MY GOD.....YOU ARE DOING SO MUCH BETTER.....YEAH..NOW I AM SMILING..BEFORE...LOL...I FELT LIKE crap..AND WANTED TO PUKE ON THEM...
HEY...DO YOU KNOW WHERE TO BUY THIS crap?
IF THERE ANYWHERE IN LINE THAT PEOPLE ARE BEING ABLE TO CURE LYME WITH A PILL???? BECAUSE I BET IT IS COLLIDAL SILVER AND LET ME TEL YOU....IT DOES WORK...
GUESS THE USDA AND THE CDC DON'T WANT US TAKING STUFF THAT DOES NOT MAKE THEM RICH...LOL
IT WORKS....LET ME KNOW IF YOU CAN FIND IT ON LINE..I AM GOING TO GET MY KIDS ALL ON IT ASAP...
GOOGLE IT....IT HAS BEEN AROUND FOR EVER....GOD! IT WORKS!
I got Lymes in 2004. So did my 11 mos old daughter and my favorite dog Toto.


peacesoul
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   Posted 10/26/2008 7:29 AM (GMT -6)   
Martha, you need to be very cautious what info you give out here.
I'm very happy Col Silver worked for you, but it actually does not work for everyone and can make certain people sick.

I'm a HUGE advocate of natural remedies. In fact I got off all abx last April and have treated my lyme/lupus all naturally.
Abx were making me very very sick.
I did see homeopaths and ND's, but decided to do it on my own with diet change, suppliments and herbs.

I'm also now working on getting my naturopathic certificate.

I think anyone interested in taking col slilver should not take this on their own, They should consult a certified/respected Natural Doctor. Not a homeopath.
Many homeopaths out there are inexperienced and are kooks.
ND's. have to go through 5-7 yr of medical school and understand the chemistry of our bodies much better

I asked you in your other thread if you're away from home and you are. Being away from home can also help with your illness as does a change in diet.
Maybe get home and see if you're still well. Not saying you don't have lyme. But the body's immune system cannot fight around molds and fungus
There could be a cause from your home that is also making you sick, like mold, fungus etc.

For people thinking of taking COL SILVER, please consult an ND first and do not try this on your own.


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Post Edited (peacesoul) : 10/26/2008 7:42:39 AM (GMT-6)


Chris L
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   Posted 10/26/2008 9:08 AM (GMT -6)   
I certainly don't want to rain on anyone's parade either, but the quick research I did on CS shows that it does not have any antimicrobial properties when tested in medical studies. That being said, I did find a fair amount of personal accounts that swear by the stuff.

cbsoapfan
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   Posted 10/26/2008 9:50 AM (GMT -6)   
If folks choose to take the Colloidal Silver, please be careful. You have to get a very good "grade" of the stuff and you have to have a physician that can tell you exactly how much to take. Don't apply it to your skin.

I took one tsp 3 times a day for 4 weeks and then was off for 4 weeks. I was told any more than this could be dangerous. I know that the IV form of Colloidal Silver is not approved in the US and some US doctors put the oral stuff in the IV bags and do it that way. My physician says that it not a very safe method. In Mexico, they have an IV version of CS that is safe.

Just wanted to throw my two cents in.

nakita
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   Posted 10/26/2008 10:22 AM (GMT -6)   
Chris L, I read that it doesn't have antimicrobial properties also. There was some researcher at Lymenet that said that. It shoud be easy to test. I see where it is used to sterilize water. On the argentyn site the tested it on different bacteria and compared it to other brands. I don't understand why all the mixed results out there. The argentyn 23 is supposed to be the smallest available and the ASAP brand is supposed to use a possitive ion or somethinglike that. I know the ASAP made me feel better but I am not sure about the argentyn 23 though. I think argetyn 23 is the one most docters seem to use.

cbsoapfan
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   Posted 10/26/2008 10:54 AM (GMT -6)   
Argentyn 23 is what my physician uses.

Martha's Vineyard
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   Posted 10/26/2008 1:09 PM (GMT -6)   
Gosh too many to answer...Ummm
Lets see. I am not doing this on my own. I have a team of Dr.s around me and nurses. It is not easy either.
I do have lyme peace...do you?
I live in a new 4 million dollar home..and I was a huge developer. So no mold darling...
My test from every lyme lab even quest are high. Igenex is high, my kids are high, hence the name Martha's Vineyard...where we all got it...everyone single one of my neighbors...very sick.
Look up tulerema.....now that one is deadly and fast. My yard men were all dying off from tuleremia...but no one cares about them. they did not make the news.
I am sad as hell...feeling guilty as hell, leaving my kids..trying o find something that works. Alone in Arizona...the darn desert...with rabbits and deer and pigs everywhere.
Hate the desert. Hate the 4 season hotel. I want to be home with my sick little ones cuddled next to me in bed..I want to be brushing their teeth. Protecting them from he mean kids at school who do not understand what is wrong with my beautiful once smart and driven daughter.
I am only posting to help others that there seems to be only one place in the USA that actually treat lyme. Only one. So here I am. I do not know if t works...yet...I am totally better...but only for now. I do not know what will happen when they take me off of this stuff.
But all I can say. Is look for someone in your area who knows something about Homeopahtic med. That is all. Don't go and make a silver lab in your garage...and turn you ass blue....hahahaha
I am just a lab rat....crying my eyes out in scottsdale arizona because I am all alone and missing my kids. If in fact this stuff does kill cancer and lyme and whatever else it does...then it would make sense whey the phamacudical comp do not want it out.....abx is good money. So what if abx are not working....people are still buying it like craxy and look up how many people die of abx overdoes a year...number one killer.
so if it kills and it does not work....then what...then I go looking for something for my kids.
I got Lymes in 2004. So did my 11 mos old daughter and my favorite dog Toto.


Martha's Vineyard
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   Posted 10/26/2008 1:27 PM (GMT -6)   
I will ask more questions.
Again...I have Dr.s all around me.
I am also doing Ozone therapy before it silver.

Funny, the FDA will allow Dr.s to give my 12 year old ambien and zanax and zoloft....
But if you read...zoloft causes suicide in kids...hmmm....guess i will just tell her to get over it...here honey take this pill for your depression...it causes suicidal thoughts in kids your age..but hey....Eli lilly can push what ever it wants on us. they said it the small print that it will cuase stroke and death...please go to the top medical school...say harvard. and they do not even teach a class on nutrition.
so give the fat lady a pill for her diabetis.
lets just pop another pill and make the big guys richer.
in europe and most of the world. the phamasudicals no not run the nation. They are sort of weird in their thinking.....it is not about how much money they can take from you but if they can make you heathy again...so odd no?????
good read...
Our daily meds by Sarah Crichton
I got about half way through the book and threw off of my fancy pants meds in the trash.
I got Lymes in 2004. So did my 11 mos old daughter and my favorite dog Toto.


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   Posted 10/26/2008 3:10 PM (GMT -6)   
Here's another book for you, Martha's Vineyard: Murder by Injection, by Eustace Mullins. I read it when I was in High School. I hate prescription drugs, unfortunately they're keeping me alive right now (because of my need for TPN) but I would not take any if I did not have to.

Glad you found something that makes you feel back to normal again...I'm still looking for my "magic bullet." I hope you can go home to your family soon. Take care,
-Razzle
Chronic Lyme Disease, Gluten & Sulfite Sensitivity, Many Food/Inhalant/Medication Allergies & Intolerances, Asthma, Gut issues (dysmotility, non-specific inflammation), UCTD ("Secondary Lupus-Like Syndrome"), Osteoporosis, Anemia, Lymphopenia, intermittant Pancytopenia, chronic malabsorption/malnutrition, etc.; G-J Tube; Currently TPN-dependent.
Meds:  Zofran, Pulmicort, Vitamin B12 Shots, Heparin (to flush PICC line).


Martha's Vineyard
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   Posted 10/26/2008 3:55 PM (GMT -6)   
I will get it..I don't have a pen on me. can you e-mail that to me? marieallyne@aol.com
What is TPN????

I am on heavy treatment now and it hurts to have a port in me and it hurts to have all of this stuff injected into me.
It is not a spa....lol
I do not know if this "magic bullet" is masking everything...or if it is killing it.
I have to try, have to try everything.
I have so many children who lives are depending on it and on me.
I would hope that the cure is something that we all can afford and be able to get our hands on to save ourselves to save our families to save our children to save our friends.....
And to save our animals. My family has huge ranches all over the usa and 400 horses.
I can't recall losing our horses back then to lyme. But if you read LAB 257 it is a big problem up in the north east. And also....look into what happened to all of the long isalnd duck companies....all gone...why???
Lyme killed all of the darn ducks.
10 billion birds migrate every year across the usa. we have a huge epidenic on our hands. there is no known cure for lyme disease. it is is not detected wthin the first 24 hours and given huge amounts of amoxy like 1,220 a day for a 44 pound child for 40 days....40 days...then it progresses and kills. or makes you kill yourself....lol
my 5 year old has gotten it too many time. she is a tick and moscitio magnet. She got better...bt only because I had to raise so much hell and get her the drugs she needed and kept her on them till she was well. and not one dr. agreed with me.
not a one believed me with tick in hand, and bulleye..and sick child..that it was lyme...not one. but who cares....I got what I wanted....I am good at that. And I am somehow going to make it so that all kids will get the treatment that they need and deserve.
I got Lymes in 2004. So did my 11 mos old daughter and my favorite dog Toto.


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   Posted 10/26/2008 4:19 PM (GMT -6)   
Martha's Vineyard,
 
First I want to say that I really feel your pain and lonliness.  I have been there (except no kids except furry ones).
 
I give you so much credit for thinking "outside the box" and you are one determined lady and I believe you will get well.
 
I also do not believe in chemical antibiotics, I feel that people are "brainwashed" into thinking that's the answer.  Truth be told, there is NO answer to chronic lyme disease.  I tried Doxy for 8 months and it didn't help in the long run.  I did extensive research as I'm sure you did and most people do.  
 
I ended up doing Dr. Jernigan's protocol (he came out with a new book by the way which may intrigue you) called Beating Lyme Disease.   I followed his "healing at home" protocol and I have been in remission for 3 years now.  Like you I have seen people stay on chemical antibiotics for years and years and they do not get better. 
 
I don't believe in a magic bullet that I feel so many people are searching for, I do believe in looking at the big picture which consists of the right botanicals, heavy detoxing, exercising, and the right diet as well as eliminating stressors from one's life (I know that's the most difficult part).
 
As far as CS, yes, I tried that before Dr. Jernigan's protocol and no, I didn't turn blue or have any bad side effects.  But I didn't get well from just the silver alone either.  It was just something I tried as well as Nutramedix Samento and other things.
 
My view is that a person needs to address every aspect of their life style, not just the medicines they choose (or what their doctors chose for them).  
 
My motto is if something is not working, stop it and try something else. 
 
I wish you the best and once again, admire you for your determination!  You will get there!! yeah yeah
 
Denise
It's all about the Immune System mixed with a large dose of Positive Thinking...
 
This song is about my years with chronic lyme and being in remission for over 2 years:
 

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peacesoul
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   Posted 10/26/2008 5:30 PM (GMT -6)   
Martha's Vineyard said...

Lets see. I am not doing this on my own. I have a team of Dr.s around me and nurses. It is not easy either.
I do have lyme peace...do you?
I live in a new 4 million dollar home..and I was a huge developer. So no mold darling...
Yes, I do. Well did, I believe I'm in remission. In fact, I'll be a lyme mod soon :-)
And the cost of a home does not equate to a healthy home.
 
Why are you getting so defensive. You post on public board in order to get feedback, no?
 
The world breaks every one and afterward many are strong in the broken places


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   Posted 10/26/2008 5:58 PM (GMT -6)   
Martha's Vineyard,

I am so glad you are feeling better. Keep thinking of your family at home and keep that focus on healing. I also tried Colloidal Silver without success. But we all heal differently and I wish you the very best.

Peacesoul,

I am so glad that you also are feeling better. And you are now working on getting you naturopathic certificate? I am impressed! How is a certificate different than a doctorate?

And Denise is feeling better. And I am feeling better.

So everyone should take heart, there IS life after Lyme's.

Be Well,
Wacko Woman

peacesoul
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   Posted 10/26/2008 6:06 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey WW. Yes, I'm still taking courses and still in the early stages.
This cert is different in that, I cannot dx people, I can only treat.

I would go for a ND, but I'm 42 and just don't have the time or funds. So this is the next best thing so I can help others.

I'm feeling better but it's still a daily process. I start a 10 week fitness challenge tomorrow and would have not every have thought a yr ago I could do this. We can kill lyme. Or at least control it.
I am SO HAPPY you're feeling better. Keep that up
:-)


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Martha's Vineyard
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   Posted 10/26/2008 6:39 PM (GMT -6)   
Oh Peaceful, you made two big assumptions...
One was...you asked me if I was "sure' if I had lyme. Yes I am sure. If I had a nickle for every time....
2nd You assumed that it was mold in one of my homes.
And again...yes I am sure that my home does not have any mold issues. And yes I am sure that I know what I am talking about, and yes I am sure that my kids have it. And yes I am sure that my dog has it. And......
Funny. Don't make such irritating assumptions.
Try saying it this way....
How did you get lyme?
Have you ever had your homes checked for molds.
And yes...I am not in a good mood today.
My kids call me every day crying and my 12 year old is seeing things...
We were all covered in ticks one summer and then all the hell started then. I am very up set that there is not something that I can do for my daughters.
If this does work for me...what then? I am going to have to take my kids out of school and move here?
I am very pissed. Not at you.
I will change my name to Martha's Vineyard *****...lol
I got Lymes in 2004. So did my 11 mos old daughter and my favorite dog Toto.


Martha's Vineyard
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   Posted 10/26/2008 6:53 PM (GMT -6)   
Dejavu,
You are so on the money on every single comment that you made!
You smart cookie you!
That is what they say at the clinic too. I think that the " magic Bullet" is our own immune system.
And diet, working out, and stress are huge.
I do not know what Nutramedic Samento...I have to take notes to answer you...lol
What is that?

They say at clinic one thing over and over. And that is that the abx send the lyme into a defense mode. They curl up in a shell. But they say that the silver along with a rocking immune system...lol
Makes for a nice atmosphere in which the lyme does not change it's form, it comes out to play and that our own bodies immune system can then see it with its little tail and it kills it knowing that it is the bad guy.
They say that our body can fight for itself. But not when it has been so badly hurt by the bacteria wreaking havoc on our entire system.
So I am learning, I am searching.
I got Lymes in 2004. So did my 11 mos old daughter and my favorite dog Toto.


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   Posted 10/26/2008 7:15 PM (GMT -6)   
Martha's Vineyard said...
Oh Peaceful, you made two big assumptions...
One was...you asked me if I was "sure' if I had lyme. Yes I am sure. If I had a nickle for every time....
2nd You assumed that it was mold in one of my homes.
And again...yes I am sure that my home does not have any mold issues. And yes I am sure that I know what I am talking about, and yes I am sure that my kids have it. And yes I am sure that my dog has it. And......
Funny. Don't make such irritating assumptions.

Incorrect. No where did I ask you  "are you sure you have lyme" And no I did not assume, I simply made a suggested since mold causes a lot of issues.
I also never said you didn't know what you were talking about.
 
 
I'm sorry you're having a hard time. We all have had our share of rough days and I get your feelings, but please take your agression down a few notches. It's really not appreciated
 
 


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Martha's Vineyard
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   Posted 10/26/2008 8:02 PM (GMT -6)   
 I don't appreciate your comments to me.

I do not have to explain myself to you.

Yes and thank for the news about Mold.

Again... we are all having a hard time. I spend hours a day helping people nice people a on this site...

Post edited by Mod. We are allowed to disagree and debate treatment options, possible causes of illness, etc., but members cannot outrightly attack other members.

Post Edited By Moderator (alfers) : 10/26/2008 8:46:51 PM (GMT-6)

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