How long does it take to herx

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king1234
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Date Joined Nov 2006
Total Posts : 491
   Posted 11/19/2008 12:10 AM (GMT -6)   
After starting anitobotics??
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33 yr old female
 GERD dx March 2007
Migraines with Aura
IBS
SYMPTOMS  migratory joint/bone pain, extreme joint cracking, feet buzzing/vibrating, right eye pain,mid spine soreness (like a constant bruise) fatigue and dizzy spells, bumps and indents on nails. 
New as of Aug-muscle twitching throughout my bod NONSTOP DAILY EVERYWHERE. 
 TESTS-BloodCBC,ANA,Sed rate,Lupus,RA, Vit D,Anti nuc,Calcium.TSH T3 -Too many to list -all CLEAR
 Scans/xraysUltra sound of stomach organs,Sig/colonoscopy (mid way through),MRI of head and spine, full body bone scan-ALL CLEAR
LYME-TESTED POS BAND 31 AND IND ON 34 41 IGM THROUGH IG IN PALO ALTO, GIVEN CLINCAL DX ON 11/17-ON DOXY, ZITHRO, FLAGYL
 
 
 
 
 
 


needshelp
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Date Joined Aug 2008
Total Posts : 227
   Posted 11/19/2008 2:08 AM (GMT -6)   

King1234,

I can only speak for myself....I herx 24-48 hours after starting or changing antibiotics.   Although, I did not herx when I was on low doses of doxy (200 mg/day) prescribed by my GP.   What antibiotics are you taking?  What dose?


king1234
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Date Joined Nov 2006
Total Posts : 491
   Posted 11/19/2008 12:10 PM (GMT -6)   

I was prescribed 300 of doxy 7 days a wk, Zithro 5 days a wk and Flagyl 2 days a wk. My dx was based off clinical findings and 1 pos (31) band, 2 IND bands  (34, 41) on the IGM

I am starting the doxy this week and will add the zithro Monday, then the following wkend will add the flagyl. I dont want to bombard my system all at once

I was having awful pains all over my body last night and wondered if it was a herx. Not sure though because the day before I had bad pains in my hands, but last night it was all over, toothache type pains, and bad electrical pains...Not sure if it just me getting  worse and a bad night or part of a herx. I feel okay this morning so far, well okay as in sick as I usually do but not worse

How long did it take for you to start feeling btr?


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33 yr old female
 GERD dx March 2007
Migraines with Aura
IBS
SYMPTOMS  migratory joint/bone pain, extreme joint cracking, feet buzzing/vibrating, right eye pain,mid spine soreness (like a constant bruise) fatigue and dizzy spells, bumps and indents on nails. 
New as of Aug-muscle twitching throughout my bod NONSTOP DAILY EVERYWHERE. 
 TESTS-BloodCBC,ANA,Sed rate,Lupus,RA, Vit D,Anti nuc,Calcium.TSH T3 -Too many to list -all CLEAR
 Scans/xraysUltra sound of stomach organs,Sig/colonoscopy (mid way through),MRI of head and spine, full body bone scan-ALL CLEAR
LYME-TESTED POS BAND 31 AND IND ON 34 41 IGM THROUGH IG IN PALO ALTO, GIVEN CLINCAL DX ON 11/17-ON DOXY, ZITHRO, FLAGYL
 
 
 
 
 
 


lynniecat
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Date Joined Nov 2008
Total Posts : 51
   Posted 11/20/2008 4:17 PM (GMT -6)   
Oh my toothache pains, got those too!

king1234
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Date Joined Nov 2006
Total Posts : 491
   Posted 11/20/2008 4:30 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes they are VERY deep and come and go mainly hitting random joints. It feels what a toothache in my bones would feel like!

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33 yr old female
 GERD dx March 2007
Migraines with Aura
IBS
SYMPTOMS  migratory joint/bone pain, extreme joint cracking, feet buzzing/vibrating, right eye pain,mid spine soreness (like a constant bruise) fatigue and dizzy spells, bumps and indents on nails. 
New as of Aug-muscle twitching throughout my bod NONSTOP DAILY EVERYWHERE. 
 TESTS-BloodCBC,ANA,Sed rate,Lupus,RA, Vit D,Anti nuc,Calcium.TSH T3 -Too many to list -all CLEAR
 Scans/xraysUltra sound of stomach organs,Sig/colonoscopy (mid way through),MRI of head and spine, full body bone scan-ALL CLEAR
LYME-TESTED POS BAND 31 AND IND ON 34 41 IGM THROUGH IG IN PALO ALTO, GIVEN CLINCAL DX ON 11/17-ON DOXY, ZITHRO, FLAGYL
 
 
 
 
 
 


Martha's Vineyard
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Date Joined Jul 2008
Total Posts : 1119
   Posted 11/20/2008 8:30 PM (GMT -6)   
I herxed my 2nd week of therapy, and then again last week..And that was after taking a week off. You will know it. You will feel like poop and get really depressed too. I ran a fever and was heaving and wanting to throw up. I also lost my appetite completely. You will know it. And I felt like I was dying, drama yes but it is hard.
Some people talk about pulse therapy on line. Like giving yourself a break and hence maybe getting the lyme to come out and play and then hitting them again. Sounds like a good plan of attack of sorts. No?
2004 in Martha's Vineyard me and my two daughters then 11 mos and 6 all got Lyme Disease. This was only known to us because we found the tiny ticks on us and we got very ill. My dog also got lyme and he went lame.
We have fought it for 4 years to no avail.
We all got it again this summer is Texas.
I am now in treatment in Scottsdale Arizona at Envita.

"The eyes cannot see for for what the mind does not know."


king1234
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Date Joined Nov 2006
Total Posts : 491
   Posted 11/20/2008 10:19 PM (GMT -6)   

I have no clue if its a herx or just me getting worse..I feel like I was getting worse before the meds so I have no clue. The evening seem worse for me. It is odd as today during the afternoon I felt actually pretty good-oddly my muscle twitches have calm down the past two days. However I went to the gym and feel awful now, just tired, weak like I am on the verge of a flu. Can being on meds make you feel bad and good for a few hrs?

I doubt it would have settled my twitches down so quickly, maybe the mag is FINALLY helping.

 


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33 yr old female
 GERD dx March 2007
Migraines with Aura
IBS
SYMPTOMS  migratory joint/bone pain, extreme joint cracking, feet buzzing/vibrating, right eye pain,mid spine soreness (like a constant bruise) fatigue and dizzy spells, bumps and indents on nails. 
New as of Aug-muscle twitching throughout my bod NONSTOP DAILY EVERYWHERE. 
 TESTS-BloodCBC,ANA,Sed rate,Lupus,RA, Vit D,Anti nuc,Calcium.TSH T3 -Too many to list -all CLEAR
 Scans/xraysUltra sound of stomach organs,Sig/colonoscopy (mid way through),MRI of head and spine, full body bone scan-ALL CLEAR
LYME-TESTED POS BAND 31 AND IND ON 34 41 IGM THROUGH IG IN PALO ALTO, GIVEN CLINCAL DX ON 11/17-ON DOXY, ZITHRO, FLAGYL
 
 
 
 
 
 


Sulma
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Date Joined Apr 2008
Total Posts : 366
   Posted 11/21/2008 12:32 AM (GMT -6)   
For me it's always about about 2-3 days. With the two prescription antibiotics I took the Herx would hit like a sledgehammer on the 3rd or 4th day like in the space of a few hours, but with the Niacin protocol it'll begin to sneak up over a course of about 6-8 hours. The Herx symptoms are always identical though, irrespective of what triggered them.
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