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seeingstars
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   Posted 3/5/2009 11:07 AM (GMT -6)   
My doctor mentioned this briefly and said he was going to look into this more before he discusses it with me more. Is this an oral thing or only IV?

Martha's Vineyard
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   Posted 3/5/2009 11:15 AM (GMT -6)   
You would do better off wit a port like me. It is a 50 6 hour deal and it hard on the arms.
That is fantastic that you can get that!
That is great!
That is the main part of the treatment at enivta!
Because once you are able to get all of that other crap out of your system, your body can cotrol the lyme.
2004 in Martha's Vineyard me and my two daughters then 11 mos and 6 all got Lyme Disease. This was only known to us because we found the tiny ticks on us and we got very ill. My dog also got lyme and he went lame.
We have fought it for 4 years to no avail.
We all got it again this summer is Texas.
I am now in treatment in Scottsdale Arizona at Envita.

"The eyes cannot see for for what the mind does not know."


Dowa
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   Posted 3/5/2009 2:03 PM (GMT -6)   
I find that interesting about EDTA and Lyme. I had Ivs twice weekly in Boston of vitamin C and gluatathione and sat with two men that were doing EDTA to clean out their arteries. Both had had heart attacks before the age of 50. The doctor there NEVER mentioned EDTA for the Lyme, is this a new discovery and do they do other treatments prior to the EDTA to "kill the bugs" first?  I also wanted to say that they did not have a port put in and one had been doing the Iv for a couple of years. For those of you that are fearful of surgery, the port is not an absolute must for intraveous meds.  D

seeingstars
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   Posted 3/5/2009 2:10 PM (GMT -6)   
I just got back from the health store and they had EDTA in pill form on the shelf. It did say it should be taken along with (I don't remember exact words) something that made me think other medical attempts to extract metals from the body. So I got the impression that the oral really wouldn't do much on it's own.

Sulma
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   Posted 3/5/2009 9:12 PM (GMT -6)   
seeingstars said...
I just got back from the health store and they had EDTA in pill form on the shelf. It did say it should be taken along with (I don't remember exact words) something that made me think other medical attempts to extract metals from the body. So I got the impression that the oral really wouldn't do much on it's own.


That's correct, it won't. Oral EDTA alone is good for one thing only, to bind heavy metals in a meal you've just eaten. For instance you love fish, but don't want to introduce any more mercury into your system. Oral EDTA taken with the fish meal will bind it and carry it out with your stool.

EDTA is extremely poorly absorbed via the gut. Almost none of it will get into your bloodstream that way, and by the time you do get enough into your system to be even a bit helpful you'll have very high levels of it persisting in your gut for quite a while absorbing all the minerals you eat. Not a good thing. Has to be intravenous or nothing unfortunately.

Martha's Vineyard
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   Posted 3/5/2009 9:20 PM (GMT -6)   
Oh yeah your right. You would not need a port to get chelation. I have a port but that is because I had the Ozone before. And I needed heavy out flow for that daily.
Hey...this is cool...
Claude just told me that his chelation therapy was only 85$ a pop.
Now that is cool.
2004 in Martha's Vineyard me and my two daughters then 11 mos and 6 all got Lyme Disease. This was only known to us because we found the tiny ticks on us and we got very ill. My dog also got lyme and he went lame.
We have fought it for 4 years to no avail.
We all got it again this summer is Texas.
I am now in treatment in Scottsdale Arizona at Envita.

"The eyes cannot see for for what the mind does not know."


Razzle
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   Posted 3/5/2009 11:12 PM (GMT -6)   
EDTA should **NOT** be used if one has mercury amalgam fillings...it will chelate all the mercury out of the fillings. So best to get the fillings replaced first before starting IV EDTA treatments.
-Razzle
Chronic Lyme Disease, Gluten & Sulfite Sensitivity, Many Food/Inhalant/Medication Allergies & Intolerances, Asthma, Gut issues (dysmotility, non-specific inflammation), UCTD ("Secondary Lupus-Like Syndrome"), Osteoporosis, Anemia, Lymphopenia, intermittant Pancytopenia, chronic malabsorption/malnutrition, etc.; G Tube; Currently TPN-dependent.
Meds:  Zofran, Pulmicort, Heparin (to flush PICC line), IV Cipro (for G-tube site infection).


Sulma
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   Posted 3/6/2009 12:58 PM (GMT -6)   

Good point Razzle.  I previously wondered if Martha's had amalgams when she mentioned her EDTA treatments. Theoreticaly EDTA would make a person with anything more than maybe one amalgam filling sicker as it is chelated. No binder is 100% effective so mercury that is "broken loose" will travel around a bit wreaking havoc before it is fully bound and removed. Chelation w/o binding can make HM poisoning much worse.

For folks with amalgams who want to reduce their intrasititial mercury load, ALA and Chlorella are weak chelaters/binders that can reduce your levels if taken regularly for a few years. Your body is pretty good at storing away poisons like mercury where it'll do the least harm and these two won't mess with that, which you definitely don't want to do until you're ready and able to remove it all.



Daco Wilce
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   Posted 3/6/2009 1:54 PM (GMT -6)   
How about Detoxamin as an alternative to IV EDTA? Anyone tried that?

seeingstars
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   Posted 3/6/2009 4:37 PM (GMT -6)   
I am totally out for a candidate for this then. Way too many silver fillings mad

What would be the alternative? Anyone have any ideas? I haven't heard of detoxamin. I'll have to look that one up. I think my doc was thinking about this not because of mercury but for the toxin build up from die off and maybe meds (a little).

Dowa
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   Posted 3/6/2009 6:02 PM (GMT -6)   
I did Ivs in Boston for a year before coming to Dallas. I did 30 grams (yes, 30,000 mg) of Vitamin C with Gluathione afterwards. I dont know how much glutathione but I felt really good while doing it. I did it twice a week for a year. This combo will detox you and no worry about mercury.  D

seeingstars
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   Posted 3/6/2009 6:23 PM (GMT -6)   
Thank you Dowa. What allowed you to do this for a year? What diagnosis? Was this out of pocket or did ins. pay?

Dowa
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   Posted 3/8/2009 10:54 PM (GMT 0)   
No, out of pocket as the ingredients are  considered "nutritional" only. In fact I had to sign a paper saying I would NOT submit it to my insurance and this doc had had some problems previously with billing insurance for them. Vit c and glutathione is not that expensive. The diagnosis was mycotoxicosis. (mold poisoning) But they use this combo to detox just about anything. I certainly felt better. Any EI (environmental illness) clinic should offer this IV.   D
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