Help in easing dealing with the night sweats?

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MarriedtoLymeinNJ
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   Posted 3/14/2009 8:09 AM (GMT -6)   
AGH! They are making me crazy!!!
This is a relatively new symptom for me.-- just over the last 2-3 months. I am always cold- freezing and during the day I mostly wear lots of layers (including a scarf and hat!LOL) If I feel thatheat wave come on, I can usually get layers off, cool down, then put them back on.

Other times I am hot and freezing at the same time. How can you be burning hot and freezing cold together? It makes no sense. It is like my body temp just cannot regulate itself any more.

But at night, I am having such horrible time. I must wake up every night 5 times to change pj's. I wake up freezing and shivering but soaking wet.

And sorry to be gross, but the sweat smells "different" I can't describe it other than that it is not "normal sweat."

Please please please-- do any of you have any hints on how to cope? I am not sleeping, I am doing laundry constantly (not good since all of our abx "broke" our septic system LOL) and I am at a loss. I *hate* being cold. And the feeling of the "freezing sweats" is beyond me at this point.

TIA!
Chris: Diagnosed Lyme, Chronic Mono
Married to Lyme in NJ aka Gary: Lyme, Bartonella
Mom to Scott: Lyme, Babesia, Bartonella
Mom to Caitlyn: Lyme, Bartonella
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peacesoul
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   Posted 3/14/2009 1:30 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi, Im like you in that my sweat smells like ammonia, Almost like a cat urine smell. This doesn't happen every time I sweat, but a few times a month.

Not sure if you're male or female. But if you're female, how old are you? It's quite possible your sweats and hot and cold are either related to hormones and or a thyroid issue?
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Dowa
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   Posted 3/14/2009 3:03 PM (GMT -6)   
Awful to admit, but when I sweat it sometimes smells like garbage. Cant be a good thing. Do you ever notice that your perspiration is very dark in color, like brown???  D

MarriedtoLymeinNJ
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   Posted 3/14/2009 6:28 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for responding.

I am female and 40 and I do think that there is some type of hormonal connection. I had actually talked to my gyn. several years ago about night sweats and he said I was too young for peri-menopause. But it seems to be getting worse, and the last several months is gets harder to cope. It feels awful!

I also just came off of my main pain med Opana ER, (thank you insurance HMO- NOT!) and I think it also may be contributing, at this point in time. Hopefully this will get better as the withdrawal ends.

As for the smell of the sweat- ity is almost a sweet smell, not a "BO" smell.

So odd....
Chris: Diagnosed Lyme, Chronic Mono
Married to Lyme in NJ aka Gary: Lyme, Bartonella
Mom to Scott: Lyme, Babesia, Bartonella
Mom to Caitlyn: Lyme, Bartonella
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Gretchen P
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   Posted 3/14/2009 6:51 PM (GMT -6)   
I have had the sweet sweats before. Have you ever done Babesia treatment? If not maybe try some Artemesia and see if day 4 brings on heavy night sweats, a good indicator of Babs.

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dorit
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   Posted 3/14/2009 7:26 PM (GMT -6)   
Maybe sage tea (Salvia officinalis - to make sure the translation is correct) would be worth a try if you think its not co infections.

Besides its anti-inflammatory effects, this herb helps to normalize the sweating. Dose for that purpose: 3 times a day a cup of tea, drink NOT until it cooled down completely!!
Do not use it long term; this is because the ethereal oils of sage contain the substance thujon - like some other herbs of the artemisia species - which is no good for long term use.

If it works for you you should get some relief withhin a couple of days. greetings, dorit.

Post Edited (dorit) : 3/14/2009 7:30:37 PM (GMT-6)


pj1954
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   Posted 3/14/2009 7:55 PM (GMT -6)   
look up chillo on the internet its a water filled pad you slip into your pillow at night it helps keep your head cool and helps a great deal in the summer months ~pj

peacesoul
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   Posted 3/15/2009 6:34 AM (GMT -6)   
MarriedtoLymeinNJ said...
Thanks for responding.

I am female and 40 and I do think that there is some type of hormonal connection. I had actually talked to my gyn. several years ago about night sweats and he said I was too young for peri-menopause. But it seems to be getting worse, and the last several months is gets harder to cope. It feels awful!

I also just came off of my main pain med Opana ER, (thank you insurance HMO- NOT!) and I think it also may be contributing, at this point in time. Hopefully this will get better as the withdrawal ends.

As for the smell of the sweat- ity is almost a sweet smell, not a "BO" smell.

So odd....

I'm 42 and in full blown peri menopause and when I went to see my gyno to discuss options with her, she basically told me I was crazy and it was IMPOSSIBLE that I was in peri menopause. She's been my gyno for 23 yrs. I was shocked!
I am in fact in peri menopause and how do I know, because I have every symptom.
I also get a strange smell when I sweat which is ammonia like. I also now get vertigo almost every time I PMS.
 
Gyno's are about as knowledgable about hormones as IDS are about lyme.
You need to find an endo and or hormone specialist to check your hormones.
I have an appoint with a wellness clinic in April that deals ONLY in woman's hormones.
 
I'm part of a site called LOW CARB FRIENDS and if you check it out and go to the THYROID section there are many women like us talking about this same subject.
 
It sounds to me like it's your hormones and 40 is NOT too young to be in peri menopause. Also, lyme effects hormomes.
 
Let me know if you find anythng out


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ticker
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   Posted 3/15/2009 8:35 AM (GMT -6)   

Hi MarriedtoLymeinNJ.  The symptoms you describe are hallmark symptoms of Babesiosis.  Are you treating it now?

When I had Babesiosis, I had the same symptoms including the toxic sweat and needing to wear layers of clothes.  The only thing that helped was treating the disease.  What meds are you on?  Definitely let your doctor know about these symptoms.


MarriedtoLymeinNJ
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   Posted 3/15/2009 9:46 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for the suggestions :)
I had brought up these symptoms at my last llmd visit- esp since I am having air hunger and at night my hands feel like they are plunged into scalding water.
I tested neg for Babs a year ago, but am being tested again.

I guess we'll see.
Chris: Diagnosed Lyme, Chronic Mono
Married to Lyme in NJ aka Gary: Lyme, Bartonella
Mom to Scott: Lyme, Babesia, Bartonella
Mom to Caitlyn: Lyme, Bartonella
My Blog: http://faerywings.wordpress.com/


ticker
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   Posted 3/15/2009 10:52 AM (GMT -6)   
MarriedtoLymeinNJ, it sounds like Babs to me.  When do you see your doctor again?

Dowa
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   Posted 3/15/2009 12:59 PM (GMT -6)   
I had COMPLETED menopause by the age of 42. Its possible, doctor don't know everything.  D

Gretchen P
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   Posted 3/15/2009 4:45 PM (GMT -6)   
Chris,
 Please note that co-infection testing is as inaccurate as lyme testing!Plus Dr Jones says that they are now finding Babesia Duncati and Microti the NE. So unless you test for both results could prove wrong, also the air hunger is a BIG indicator! Good luck!Peace!
I'm gonna get that Lyme!!!!!!!!!!!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
I have lyme and I've got the papers to prove it!! Take that Wormser!
 
Wormser, who is that????? OHHHHHHH that's right he USED to be on the IDSA panel!!!


peacesoul
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   Posted 3/16/2009 6:47 AM (GMT -6)   
Dowa said...
I had COMPLETED menopause by the age of 42. Its possible, doctor don't know everything.  D


I wish! I'm hoping for full MENTALpause very soon :-)

 

 


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MarriedtoLymeinNJ
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   Posted 3/16/2009 8:26 AM (GMT -6)   
peacesoul- LOLOL! I feel quite mental as it is -- can't imagine it getting worse.;)

I picked up some Nature's Medicinal's Tea today- Woman Support or soemthing like that. I also looke at the menopause supplements, soy isoflavons (sp?)

Has anyone had any luck with that?

The tea has black cohosh, licorice.....

There wasn't any sage tea, but I am not surprised. I am an aromatherapist and I know sage essential oil can be dangerous if misused. I am sure they wouldn't have anything like that in a regular supermarket.

I have been reading the Lyme/Hormone threads. That is some scary stuff!

Lots to think about.

I go back to my llmd in April so I'll see what she thinks.
Chris: Diagnosed Lyme, Chronic Mono
Married to Lyme in NJ aka Gary: Lyme, Bartonella
Mom to Scott: Lyme, Babesia, Bartonella
Mom to Caitlyn: Lyme, Bartonella
My Blog: http://faerywings.wordpress.com/


minerals
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   Posted 3/16/2009 9:52 AM (GMT -6)   
MarriedtoLYMEINNJ--I posted a long reply to your post which got wiped out. Anyway long story short: My symptoms very similar to yours 2 years ago. In addition to others I tested positive for babesia and Hashimotos thyroiditis where the body attacks it's own thyroid. I have been in treatment for 2 years now but it only took a few weeks for those symptoms of being hot and cold at the same time to go away. Can't tell which treatment worked for what was though because I began them at the same time.

I had the sweat that smelled sweetish (is that a word?). I also had the sweat that smelled just different- thought it was the meds. My new problem is that after being treated for 2 years for lyme, thyroid and babesia and not having sweats for 2 years I now get sweats and heat waves throughout the day and night. This has occured since beginning minocycline and bart treatment 5 months ago. I had the thyroid levels tested again and all is ok with those meds. Had more blood work to rule out cancer etc. My gyn says it is not hormonal but what does she know about lyme- I am 3 years out of menapause. My LLMD thinks it is a herx. I refuse to do the doctor to doctor to seek an answer routine again. So I will wait it out for now. I am now beginning a moderate cowden protocal along with mino and rifampin

This ia all such a mystery but do not rely on tests for babesia! Also Ticker can tell you exactly what tests to get for your thyoid to get an accurate picture of what's going on. Blessings
DX. LYME  7 /03 -I believe I 've had it since 1985- 
oral doxi, amoxi 6 months. Have been bitten 2x since                  
Developed many chemical & food sensitivities& Allergies to many Suppliments
Swollen Burning tongue/lips
Hashimotos Thyroiditis
DX. Babsiosis 4/07 -Malerone 2 wks, Mepron & Azithromax 6 mos. 
Armour Thyroid
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IV Rocephin began 12/4/07
Bactrim began 1/22/07
Stopped Rocephin 3/04/08
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Mepron, Azithrommax, Rafampin 5/29/08
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stopped Mepron 7 22/08
switched from bactrim to levaquin and had bad reaction to levaquin
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began Rifampin and Minocycline
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KO-LD
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   Posted 3/16/2009 12:05 PM (GMT -6)   

Hi, Perimenopause can start as early as your 30's.   Some doctors are totally clueless!  I would find another Gyne ASAP.  Also, I found something that helped me with the rough patch try looking on Women to Women . com.  It helped me a great deal when I was going through the worst of it.  Hope this helps.

KO


2001 symptoms started:
Tingling in fingers and toes both sides, not tested at that time for LD
2007 Summer tested pos. WB, diagnosed with LD, tested neg for co-infections thru Igenex
Abx - Doxy 100mg 2x/day for 3 weeks (before diagnosis)
Amoxicillin 1gm 2x/day for 1 month
Amoxicillin 1gm 3x/day with Probenecid 500mg 2x/day  5 months 
Currently on Dr. Zhang's protocol 

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