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chief #7
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   Posted 4/27/2009 2:28 PM (GMT -6)   
Anyone else sick of hearing about this? Sorry, I just have no sympathy for the 20 people that have it here in the US and only 1 has gone to the hospital.

Chief

p.s. sorry again for this, just reading the board here and I couldn't help it..

Dowa
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   Posted 4/27/2009 4:48 PM (GMT -6)   
Well, I am in Dallas and it has hit here already from Mexico, so yes it gets old, but guess its a real concern now as USA went from 8 cases to 40 overnight.  Pretty scarey.  D


chief #7
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   Posted 4/27/2009 5:17 PM (GMT -6)   
I wonder if "Lyme" got the publicity that "swine" is getting, if there would be an increase in 32 cases overnight... Considering I've had it now for over a year now and I'm not sure I'm a statistic... I mean who is really counting who has what?

Sorry again for being so negative..

Chief

CajunGrl
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   Posted 4/27/2009 5:42 PM (GMT -6)   
I'm assuming it's getting so much publicity because people are dying. I think the number in New Mexico is now over 100. I know people have died from complications from Lyme Disease but it can be managed. People dying this fast from swine flu should be of some concern.
2003 symptoms started with very intense panic attacks and anxiety. Also had sound and smell sensitivities. Was in and out of the hospital from 2003-2005. Diagnosed with panic disorder.
2007 found an LLMD and was diagnosed with Lyme. Didn't start treatment.
2008 symptoms came back with a vengence. Muscle pain, joint pain, floaters, stiff neck, rib pain, slow thinking, brain fog, etc...
2009 went back to see LLMD. Diagnosed again with Lyme plus co-infections....Babesia and Bartonella.
Illnesses:
-Chronic Lyme Disease
-Hashimotos Thyroiditis
-Ulcers
-Hypoglycemia
Medications:
-Biaxin 250mg to start (starting slow and working my way up)
-Mepron
-Ultram(muscle/joint pain)
-Thyro Complex 60mg(Thyroid)
-Probiotics
-Caproyl(intestinal candidas),Psyllium Powder(intestinal cleansing support),Bentonite Magma(absorbent aid for intestinal detoxification)
-Plus a ton of other supplements


dorit
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   Posted 4/27/2009 6:04 PM (GMT -6)   
...but this is really an interesting thing going on here: I call it the difference in public perception between virus pandemic threat, which comes quickly, drasticly and is supposted to leave us again (at least in our phantasy) and bacterial stuff (like lyme) which is somehow crawling in slowly, silently and wants to stay with us and we have to fight it and some say the fight has to be won in 28 days of abx (this timeframe is a mystic thing in itself..., think about this!!!!) - or there was nothing to fight at all.

just my opinion / feelings / thoughts....

Well it has reached Spain now, obviously. Europe is on alert. Take care all!! dorit

MarriedtoLymeinNJ
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   Posted 4/28/2009 5:49 AM (GMT -6)   
dorit- I hear ya, it is the same thing with West Nile- it seems to get all of the publicity and fear. And funding.
Not that I minimize any death- but if people only realized that they need to fear ticks much much more than a flu.
There are 6 "probable cases" of S/F in NJ. All are mild,not requiring hospitalization.
Sure, I am aware..... but the "hidden epidemic" of lyme has me much more concerned.
Chris: Diagnosed Lyme, Chronic Mono
Married to Lyme in NJ aka Gary: Lyme, Bartonella
Mom to Scott: Lyme, Babesia, Bartonella
Mom to Caitlyn: Lyme, Bartonella
My Blog: http://faerywings.wordpress.com/


JELAINEP
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   Posted 4/28/2009 7:00 AM (GMT -6)   
I have ALL of the symptoms of swine flu.

(Sorry, just couldn't help myself.)
Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has.  - Margaret Meade
06/00- The beginning, 08/01-LD positive, 10/01- Igenex and CDC LD positive, 10/02-LD positive, 11/03-LD positive, 10/07-Bartonella positive, CD57=3, possibly just tested positive for koseri IgA, Morganella motgani,Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever (RMSF - yay! another acronym), Typhus Fever, Klebsiella pneumonia, Proteus miabilis, Citrobacter i IgA, Hafnia alvai IgA, NKC4, Interleukin 4 (IL4), IL8, Immunobillin (IM01). 
Current Rx's 11/12/08: Wellbutrin 300mg, Paxil 60mg, Xanax 5mg, Acidophilus, Lyrica 600mg
"How much more can I take?", songhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gHiR1xeOSs


minerals
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   Posted 4/28/2009 9:32 AM (GMT -6)   
I agree with all of you. A client of mine who has lyme was petrified about swine flue and asked me if I thought she should be worried. I told her you already have something worse than that. The only difference is it feels like a slow death rather than a quick one.

It is just a matter of time before so much of the population gets lyme and its buddies that it gets the attention it deserves. It will be when the naysayers get out of their offices and actually get it themselves or watch someone they care about suffer. I think in a few years we will be hearing more and more about what we have and maybe then there will be more research.
DX. LYME  7 /03 -I believe I 've had it since 1985- 
oral doxi, amoxi 6 months. Have been bitten 2x since                  
Developed many chemical & food sensitivities& Allergies to many Suppliments
Swollen Burning tongue/lips
Hashimotos Thyroiditis
DX. Babsiosis 4/07 -Malerone 2 wks, Mepron & Azithromax 6 mos. 
Armour Thyroid
Probiotics are a MUST   
Almost died from 3 doses of Plaquanil 12/07
IV Rocephin began 12/4/07
Bactrim began 1/22/07
Stopped Rocephin 3/04/08
DX Micoplasma
Mepron, Azithrommax, Rafampin 5/29/08
Stopped Rifampin began Bactrim and zithro 6/2/08
stopped Mepron 7 22/08
switched from bactrim to levaquin and had bad reaction to levaquin
began Mepron again till Nov, then began Malerone
began Rifampin and Minocycline 9/08
modified cowden protocol 3/09
Outstare The Darkness--The Light Will Come!


dorit
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   Posted 4/28/2009 10:11 AM (GMT -6)   
Hey MarriedtoLymeinNJ - that is it !!! Exactly!!
I am a Lymie and a West - Nile"ie" ...and this happened: when I talked to some docs about lyme they told me I am not ill but crazy; after I was tested positive for West Nile also (two times), docs told me that I am not crazy but ill. (do not forget that symptoms are somewhat similar...)
Welcome to the pleasure dome !!!! I was given a printout with the symptoms of WN listed and was told that there is a lot of research going on.

KO-LD
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   Posted 4/28/2009 11:41 AM (GMT -6)   
dorit,
Do you think that is because there isn't a treatment for West Nile, so doctors aren't afraid to diagnose it vs LD which is controversial and costly to treat?  Just a thought.
KO
2001 symptoms started:
Tingling in fingers and toes both sides, not tested at that time for LD
2007 Summer tested pos. WB, diagnosed with LD, tested neg for co-infections thru Igenex
Abx - Doxy 100mg 2x/day for 3 weeks (before diagnosis)
Amoxicillin 1gm 2x/day for 1 month
Amoxicillin 1gm 3x/day with Probenecid 500mg 2x/day  5 months 
Currently on Dr. Zhang's protocol 


dorit
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   Posted 4/28/2009 1:04 PM (GMT -6)   
KO-LD,
yes, that`s what I think; there is somehow no mistake to make, so they "give" you the diagnose and you and they are "free" again, no further responsibilities. I cannot describe it more precisely, it seems to be somewhat of a psychological thing being in all of this too. dorit

JELAINEP
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   Posted 4/28/2009 3:30 PM (GMT -6)   
dorit said...
Welcome to the pleasure dome !!!!
Or as I like to call it, "Hotel California"... you can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave.  rolleyes

Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has.  - Margaret Meade
06/00- The beginning, 08/01-LD positive, 10/01- Igenex and CDC LD positive, 10/02-LD positive, 11/03-LD positive, 10/07-Bartonella positive, CD57=3, possibly just tested positive for koseri IgA, Morganella motgani,Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever (RMSF - yay! another acronym), Typhus Fever, Klebsiella pneumonia, Proteus miabilis, Citrobacter i IgA, Hafnia alvai IgA, NKC4, Interleukin 4 (IL4), IL8, Immunobillin (IM01). 
Current Rx's 11/12/08: Wellbutrin 300mg, Paxil 60mg, Xanax 5mg, Acidophilus, Lyrica 600mg
"How much more can I take?", songhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gHiR1xeOSs


nefferdun
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   Posted 4/28/2009 7:54 PM (GMT -6)   
I like that JELAINEP
I just hope I don't get anything else.

chief #7
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   Posted 4/30/2009 9:10 AM (GMT -6)   
There are now 91 cases in the US of the swine.

Yet, there are how many thousand new Lyme cases every year?

And yet, what is the top health story on every news/radio channel, newspaper. Some strand of the flu that gives you a runny nose and a stomach ache.

hopingToFindCure
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   Posted 4/30/2009 9:19 PM (GMT -6)   
Lucky if it doesn't kill you. we're still liable to get it and when we do it will only exascerbate our symptoms.

JELAINEP
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   Posted 5/1/2009 5:00 PM (GMT -6)   
I have a friend who just returned from Mexico (about 5 days ago) and came to visit me within 24 hurs of returning....... no symptoms yet, but it wouldn't surprize me..... hell, nothing surprizes me anymore. Remember the Heparin recall? I was 1 digit off the recall number.... there were others on this board who received the recalled Heparin!!!!!!!!!!!! I hate this disease... not just for what it's done to my body, but to my mind and my trust in any part of our medical system.
Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has.  - Margaret Meade
06/00- The beginning, 08/01-LD positive, 10/01- Igenex and CDC LD positive, 10/02-LD positive, 11/03-LD positive, 10/07-Bartonella positive, CD57=3, possibly just tested positive for koseri IgA, Morganella motgani,Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever (RMSF - yay! another acronym), Typhus Fever, Klebsiella pneumonia, Proteus miabilis, Citrobacter i IgA, Hafnia alvai IgA, NKC4, Interleukin 4 (IL4), IL8, Immunobillin (IM01). 
Current Rx's 11/12/08: Wellbutrin 300mg, Paxil 60mg, Xanax 5mg, Acidophilus, Lyrica 600mg
"How much more can I take?", songhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gHiR1xeOSs


JELAINEP
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   Posted 5/2/2009 9:34 AM (GMT -6)   
615 cases WORLDWIDE - OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The CDC says they'll have a vaccine within a month!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Excuse me while I puke all over my antibiotics and supplements and Epsom salts and Carpal Tunnel braces and file folders full of Lyme (mis)information.................... AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has.  - Margaret Meade
06/00- The beginning, 08/01-LD positive, 10/01- Igenex and CDC LD positive, 10/02-LD positive, 11/03-LD positive, 10/07-Bartonella positive, CD57=3, possibly just tested positive for koseri IgA, Morganella motgani,Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever (RMSF - yay! another acronym), Typhus Fever, Klebsiella pneumonia, Proteus miabilis, Citrobacter i IgA, Hafnia alvai IgA, NKC4, Interleukin 4 (IL4), IL8, Immunobillin (IM01). 
Current Rx's 11/12/08: Wellbutrin 300mg, Paxil 60mg, Xanax 5mg, Acidophilus, Lyrica 600mg
"How much more can I take?", songhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gHiR1xeOSs


Martha's Vineyard
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   Posted 5/2/2009 9:54 AM (GMT -6)   
Ok...I have to say...I think this swine flu is a big problem. And it is going to kill about 150 Million people in Mexico alone. It is the super poor that are not able to go to a Dr. and lot of children.
Lyme is a big problem in Mexico too. The gardeners of mine from Martha's Vineyard who got so ill would go back to Mexico to die.
They also got Tularemia and just died in two weeks flat on the Vineyard.
Being a Texan and having a home in San Antonio and where I plan to spend my whole summer. Yes it concerns me. With our immune systems just getting well, and getting hit with this flu. I am sure that I would be ok. But Lilly does not handle flus or colds well.
I am also very concerned about all of you that are already on such heavy abx for so long, if this is going to effect your immune system and also make your system not respond the the medicines that you would need to take to recover from the flu. What is the word that I am looking for?
Ah....resistant?
The CDC...is over loaded with stuff for sure. Yes the media is having fun with this. And you can bet your ass that it is much, much, much worse than they are letting on.
I don't know how many of you have spent much time in Mexico. But third world and over population is beyong comprehension...
40 million alone in Mexico City. The are mostly poor. Very poor. They will die.
These flus get stronger. For the lymies who have weakened immune systems...yes you shoud be very careful...the is the last thing that you need to get right now.
Stay off of airplanes. Avoid crowds....target and walmart....and carry that hand sterilizer around...use it after you get cash...pump gas...open a darn door.....
2004 in Martha's Vineyard me and my two daughters then 11 mos and 6 all got Lyme Disease. This was only known to us because we found the tiny ticks on us and we got very ill. My dog also got lyme and he went lame.
We have fought it for 4 years to no avail.
We all got it again this summer is Texas.
I am now in treatment in Scottsdale Arizona at Envita.

"The eyes cannot see for for what the mind does not know."

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