Ozone therapy with Perioxide the cure?

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Martha's Vineyard
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   Posted 5/2/2009 5:37 PM (GMT -6)   
Seems that many of the Dr.s out in Az. are all on the same page about fxing lyme and the other co infections with Ozone therapy and perioxide. And it also seems that the CDC is listening to them.
It cured me. So I am a fan. idea
2004 in Martha's Vineyard me and my two daughters then 11 mos and 6 all got Lyme Disease. This was only known to us because we found the tiny ticks on us and we got very ill. My dog also got lyme and he went lame.
We have fought it for 4 years to no avail.
We all got it again this summer is Texas.
I am now in treatment in Scottsdale Arizona at Envita.

"The eyes cannot see for for what the mind does not know."


JELAINEP
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   Posted 5/2/2009 6:21 PM (GMT -6)   
What do you do with the Peroxide and Ozone?
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hopingToFindCure
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   Posted 5/3/2009 6:52 AM (GMT -6)   
The CDC is listening? What does that mean? Thanks and what do we do with ozone and peroxide?

nefferdun
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   Posted 5/3/2009 7:58 AM (GMT -6)   
Didn't you have a lot of IV antibiotics in addition to the alternative treatments? I know of people who have done the peroxide IV and not recovered. I don't know what the ozone treatment is so can't comment. Maybe it was a combination of everything they did at the clinic including abx, alternative and diet, herbs and supplements. It sounds like it was very comprehensive. Did you do the peroxide ozone treatment at a different time than the other so that you could tell there was a big difference in die off and a sharp upswing in your healing afterward? I think to be sure, you would have to eliminate any other kind of treatment to see what difference it made completely on it's own.

Martha's Vineyard
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   Posted 5/3/2009 11:13 AM (GMT -6)   
ok....this is the deal. Ozone therapy is when they take a like 9 oz of your blood, iv it..sterilize it...and then add hydrogen gas...think it is 3. And then pump it back into your body.
I have read that our blood treated this way is 8 times stronger that any abx.
Your blood goes away dark and inky and comes back in about 8 min.s four times its amount and a bright pretty almost orange frothy thing.
Then they pump it back into the body through the port.
I use to feel a head rush from it.
This is done with a ton of nurses around and usually goes smoothly.
Then rigth after that they take about 40 min.s or so to add the drip of perioxide.
I posted day by day and all of this info as I went through the whole procedure.
You can look back..I also did alot of complaining at that time..lol
No I did not do a lot of iv abx. Since I am alegic to most abx. I had only gotten some zythromax there some. But not daily.
I did not go there to get abx. I had had enough of that (%#$%^& when I got there.
All I can say about the Ozone with the perioxide oh...and don't forget the 10 cc of colidal silver...too.........
I did not ever this whole die off drama...not that I can remember now. I just felt better and better and better.
The EDTA made me very ill. I was alone and barely able to stand after treatment and had a hard time getting into my car and back to the hotel. And could not get out of bed the rest of the day...that was like after 2 weeks of it.
I think that if you look back at my posts then...I was having to have everyone on this forum....support me. I was not a happy camper at that time.
2004 in Martha's Vineyard me and my two daughters then 11 mos and 6 all got Lyme Disease. This was only known to us because we found the tiny ticks on us and we got very ill. My dog also got lyme and he went lame.
We have fought it for 4 years to no avail.
We all got it again this summer is Texas.
I am now in treatment in Scottsdale Arizona at Envita.

"The eyes cannot see for for what the mind does not know."


Martha's Vineyard
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   Posted 5/3/2009 11:15 AM (GMT -6)   
Yes the CDC is backing DR. Fry...or should I say....they believe in him and his new finding about lyme and its co infections and also his success in curing them.
I think that this whole bubble is going to burst very soon. I feel it.
2004 in Martha's Vineyard me and my two daughters then 11 mos and 6 all got Lyme Disease. This was only known to us because we found the tiny ticks on us and we got very ill. My dog also got lyme and he went lame.
We have fought it for 4 years to no avail.
We all got it again this summer is Texas.
I am now in treatment in Scottsdale Arizona at Envita.

"The eyes cannot see for for what the mind does not know."


Martha's Vineyard
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   Posted 5/3/2009 11:18 AM (GMT -6)   
Hoping...write to me directly and I will forward the specific info. about the CDC and Dr. Fry...it is a lot to write out...and my 5 year old wants to go out and play...maybe you can post it on here some how for others..I don't know how.
marie
2004 in Martha's Vineyard me and my two daughters then 11 mos and 6 all got Lyme Disease. This was only known to us because we found the tiny ticks on us and we got very ill. My dog also got lyme and he went lame.
We have fought it for 4 years to no avail.
We all got it again this summer is Texas.
I am now in treatment in Scottsdale Arizona at Envita.

"The eyes cannot see for for what the mind does not know."


hopingToFindCure
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   Posted 5/3/2009 11:45 AM (GMT -6)   
K. Thanks! Glad you're cured. Glad ot know there is a cure.

nefferdun
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   Posted 5/3/2009 12:39 PM (GMT -6)   
I believe you and am glad to know that something works. It is about time.

Martha's Vineyard
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   Posted 5/3/2009 9:17 PM (GMT -6)   
Me too!
2004 in Martha's Vineyard me and my two daughters then 11 mos and 6 all got Lyme Disease. This was only known to us because we found the tiny ticks on us and we got very ill. My dog also got lyme and he went lame.
We have fought it for 4 years to no avail.
We all got it again this summer is Texas.
I am now in treatment in Scottsdale Arizona at Envita.

"The eyes cannot see for for what the mind does not know."


Martha's Vineyard
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   Posted 5/4/2009 8:36 AM (GMT -6)   
You asked me for a list of what he had going on no?
So I sent it to you directly.
Snake who lives out there in AZ is a patient of DR. F. And unless DR. F is lying to him every day then everything that I shared with you would also be a lie too.
I had alot of my test done at Dr. F. And yes Envita regards him highly.
And they do have a nice professional relationship.
But DR. Fry is not se up as a hospital like Envita and yes he does refer people there for these treatments that he cannot and does not do.
And lat I heard.....two days ago. He does not think that Chelation does anything to Lyme.
And if you want to know how the CDC has aknowledged his work and his workings in progress, then make an appointment with him and ask hif for yourself.
I don't want to come off harsh. But maybe you are falling a bit behind with the things that are going on. I am not a fiction writer. But I do get calls daily and from people who are getting treatment all over.
And I am keeping on top of what is going on. I do have a sick 12 year od if you might remember.
2004 in Martha's Vineyard me and my two daughters then 11 mos and 6 all got Lyme Disease. This was only known to us because we found the tiny ticks on us and we got very ill. My dog also got lyme and he went lame.
We have fought it for 4 years to no avail.
We all got it again this summer is Texas.
I am now in treatment in Scottsdale Arizona at Envita.

"The eyes cannot see for for what the mind does not know."


Martha's Vineyard
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   Posted 5/5/2009 8:14 AM (GMT -6)   
Thats ok deb....I am still licking my wounds....and when I see you I am going to pull your hair...:>))))))))))))))
Still love you....beastie!
2004 in Martha's Vineyard me and my two daughters then 11 mos and 6 all got Lyme Disease. This was only known to us because we found the tiny ticks on us and we got very ill. My dog also got lyme and he went lame.
We have fought it for 4 years to no avail.
We all got it again this summer is Texas.
I am now in treatment in Scottsdale Arizona at Envita.

"The eyes cannot see for for what the mind does not know."


kendal122
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   Posted 5/5/2009 12:35 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Martha's Vineyard, i'm glad your doing great! I wish Envita would come out to boston area or even N.H

jc27
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   Posted 5/5/2009 4:47 PM (GMT -6)   

here is another link to ozone therapy:

 

http://oxygenmedicine.com/steamO3saunabenefits.html


Martha's Vineyard
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   Posted 5/6/2009 9:09 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Kendal, I think that they need to open this places all ove the country. They would do very well, and then hey, how about insurance paying for it?
Then they would save millions on not having to deal with all of the huge overhead of the poor sick people that do not get the therapy.
How do you guys feel about those specail beds that give the body ozygen?
2004 in Martha's Vineyard me and my two daughters then 11 mos and 6 all got Lyme Disease. This was only known to us because we found the tiny ticks on us and we got very ill. My dog also got lyme and he went lame.
We have fought it for 4 years to no avail.
We all got it again this summer is Texas.
I am now in treatment in Scottsdale Arizona at Envita.

"The eyes cannot see for for what the mind does not know."


Martha's Vineyard
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   Posted 5/6/2009 9:16 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks JC.
Hey oxygen keeps coming up now...and my x was talking about buying on of those machines that give your body a bunch of it by lying in it. He knows the man who makes them.
I mean...they are 250,000!
But this is the only thing that we can agree on to help her depression.
Do you have a link for these beds?
He did tell me a sort of funny...but craxy story about a guy who went into one of them with an Ipod....lol
It bew him threw the wall...
So....um....no ipods in the bed...
:>)
2004 in Martha's Vineyard me and my two daughters then 11 mos and 6 all got Lyme Disease. This was only known to us because we found the tiny ticks on us and we got very ill. My dog also got lyme and he went lame.
We have fought it for 4 years to no avail.
We all got it again this summer is Texas.
I am now in treatment in Scottsdale Arizona at Envita.

"The eyes cannot see for for what the mind does not know."


Turquoise Sky
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   Posted 5/6/2009 2:42 PM (GMT -6)   
Are you saying you are cured or in remission? Is it possible to completely eradicate the critters? And would you test completely negative if they are gone?

jc27
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   Posted 5/6/2009 9:23 PM (GMT -6)   
here are some more links to Ozone therapy

http://www.oxygenmedicine.com/steamandozone.html

http://www.oxygenmedicine.com/MGS1000.html

http://www.oxygenmedicine.com/prod-OT.html

http://www.oxygenmedicine.com/biblio.html

Martha's Vineyard
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   Posted 5/7/2009 6:45 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks keep hope...I 'vegot your pink bow in my hand...and you can't have it back...lol
I think that is it. I had heard that it was alot more to lay in those beds.
Like 500 a turn.
But 100 is much better...but I need to do some reading about them. I had heard about them way back and thought that is was all a bunch of crap.
Is it the same thing that they use for divers?
2004 in Martha's Vineyard me and my two daughters then 11 mos and 6 all got Lyme Disease. This was only known to us because we found the tiny ticks on us and we got very ill. My dog also got lyme and he went lame.
We have fought it for 4 years to no avail.
We all got it again this summer is Texas.
I am now in treatment in Scottsdale Arizona at Envita.

"The eyes cannot see for for what the mind does not know."


Martha's Vineyard
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   Posted 5/7/2009 7:00 AM (GMT -6)   
Turquiose sky.
What a cool name! I love Torq. mixed with Chacedoney....looks like sea glass.
Anyways...your question is a big one and not easy to answer...but lol...I am always sticking my foot in my mouth...
So here goes. I had heard so much about remission when I first came on here. And did not understand why they all made it sound so much like cancer...I was thinking...oh god...you mean it all comes back? All of it???
When I did the heavy abx..I would seem to get better....almost, but still had many problems and more to come from them....
But them after stopping the abx...it would all come back...hard. Like right before my period.
I noticed that I only felt better and better with the blood treaments. Ozone..but they were giving me perioxide too along with colidal silver..all into my port.
I was then able to drive....get around better...but I was in really bad shape when I got there...I mean...bad. You can read back. In short. Alzthemiers and 103 bent over in pain.
I am a young 46 year old...and have always been in good shape and was very sucessful in real estate. Well forget that...I could not even pay my phone bill.
I have had some very serious issues come up in my personal life as of late. That normally would have had me on the floor with chest pains and not being able to breath.
Along with some good old panic attacks..and on and on.
But I am fine. My back is sore..lol. But maybe because I am doing too much. But that is it.
I still cannot drink much. Or I get a headache. But I have not been able to drink for a very long time. So..I am going to stay away from it...but love a Light cold beer...lol
I was not able to care for my kids. I have them both back right now. No problem. I would not do that if I thought that I was going to be hit by a storm again. No I am fine.
I am back to myself. I have not felt this well in a long time. like 6 years.
It is like coming out of a coma. I am now making friends again...and trying to pick my life back up. I am very happy to have my children and life back.
I think that I have some arthritis from it all. Not bad like it was before. But I do have some. But I now do way too much and should maybe slow down too. But at 46 if that is my only problem then I am not even going to fuss about it.
I had been hit by a drunk driver when I was 24. So I could have back probelms because of that. But it is not bad.
I am cured.
2004 in Martha's Vineyard me and my two daughters then 11 mos and 6 all got Lyme Disease. This was only known to us because we found the tiny ticks on us and we got very ill. My dog also got lyme and he went lame.
We have fought it for 4 years to no avail.
We all got it again this summer is Texas.
I am now in treatment in Scottsdale Arizona at Envita.

"The eyes cannot see for for what the mind does not know."


Martha's Vineyard
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   Posted 5/7/2009 7:02 AM (GMT -6)   
oh....what is that blood test????? cd57? or something like that..
that is how you can tell what the messure of lyme that you have...or something like that.
Gosh Dr. Korn sat down and told me this...and I do not remember what he said...lol
many on her know the answer to that though....
2004 in Martha's Vineyard me and my two daughters then 11 mos and 6 all got Lyme Disease. This was only known to us because we found the tiny ticks on us and we got very ill. My dog also got lyme and he went lame.
We have fought it for 4 years to no avail.
We all got it again this summer is Texas.
I am now in treatment in Scottsdale Arizona at Envita.

"The eyes cannot see for for what the mind does not know."


Turquoise Sky
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   Posted 5/8/2009 7:08 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for the compliment and the answer. You sure have been through the Lyme mill! So glad you are better! I don't know why I am not worse than I am, not that I would want to be. It just seems that I'm taking my time getting better, and I hope that the IV ceftriaxone is working. I just think that I will need something else after this 28 day course, and if I am not better after this, the ID MD will send me back to my MD to explore other reasons for my symptoms. They can test me all they want, but I will also find some other treatment for the Lyme. I don't know if your Ozone therapy is available in PA, but there is someone nearby that makes Rife machines. I found this out from one of the nurses in outpatient when I had my PICC line put in. The clinical herbalist that I also know had suggested a blend that contained Teasel root and other herbs, but I would need to steam myself up in a sauna or hot tub for 15 minutes twice a day. As much as I have spent in the past couple months that the med insurance didn't cover I probably could have bought one.

jc27
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   Posted 5/11/2009 6:19 AM (GMT -6)   
What is the cost of the ozone therapy?

veromia333
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   Posted 5/11/2009 10:29 AM (GMT -6)   
This is hopefull!
In the begining there was no Lyme. And the line is faded not showing where it came in. I became a new Mother and my Lyme decided to show itself. They said my blood tests were normal nothing was wrong. My swollen elephant like knee and finger and the unbelieveable back pain was just low vitamin D. I had a butterfly rash years before. When I told the rheumatologist I had the butterfly rash he said a key sentence. A butterfly rash is only present in lupus or Lyme disease. Well lupus pain is not in the back. i finally realized all the warning signs I had before. Bell's palsey, weight loss as if I had no muscle on my bones anymore. And much more text book lyme symptoms. Now I pressed on. To a Lyme doc, after a nice run around and a lot of there is nothing wrong with you and a recomendation to counceling, He said Veronica this is Lyme and I am going to treat you. Now he knows and I know, Lets get it on paper. Getting the Flow Cytometry test. What kept me pressing on in the face of such amazing and eye opening adversidy is the baby! I had Lyme while I was pregnant Luckily I know I was not infected while pregnant. She is 19 months now and healthy. I am watching her with an eagle eye. God Bless everyone. Love Veronica.
P.S We are the ones who know about Lyme not the doctors. Isnt that just mad. Backwards . Alice in wonderland.


Martha's Vineyard
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   Posted 5/11/2009 11:03 AM (GMT -6)   
I am hearing that one can get Ozone in different states. And some do not allow it at all.
I guess it is still falling in the alterantive zone of treatment.
But it does offer hope...and actually offers a very simple cure.
I would shop around for prices. I don't know. I had never even heard of it and so I am not really a Dr.
I was just like the rest of you. Trying everthing and feeling helpless and only getting sicker and sicker with all of the Dr.s trying like hell to get me better.
But based on their limited teaching at all the med. schools....and all of the hoopla about lyme.
Well.....all I can do is share my story and hope that it helps people suffering and also helps to bring some light and direction for some Dr.s who are at a dead end with their sick patients.
I just felt better and better and better.
2004 in Martha's Vineyard me and my two daughters then 11 mos and 6 all got Lyme Disease. This was only known to us because we found the tiny ticks on us and we got very ill. My dog also got lyme and he went lame.
We have fought it for 4 years to no avail.
We all got it again this summer is Texas.
I am now in treatment in Scottsdale Arizona at Envita.

"The eyes cannot see for for what the mind does not know."

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