Anyone use zrii and ningxia red?

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rcenters
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   Posted 5/5/2009 2:57 AM (GMT -6)   
And have an opinion? Legitimate products?

hezzer926
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   Posted 5/5/2009 3:12 PM (GMT -6)   
zrii was pushed upon me by my old llmd as some miracle product..didnt do anything for me

Razzle
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   Posted 5/6/2009 3:32 AM (GMT -6)   
Ninxia Red won't likely kill Lyme directly, BUT it does contain high anti-oxidant levels and can support the body in repair efforts. It also may improve the function of the immune system, and I believe that a strong immune system is necessary if one wants to completely recover from Lyme. To get better/faster results, one may have to consume more than the recommended 1 ounce/day of the juice.

Disclosure statement: I do have financial interest in the company that makes Ninxia Red. However, I am not here to sell this or any other product made by the same company. I am only here to offer information for educational purposes.
-Razzle
Chronic Lyme Disease, Gluten & Sulfite Sensitivity, Many Food/Inhalant/Medication/Chemical Allergies & Intolerances, Asthma, Gut issues (dysmotility, non-specific inflammation), UCTD ("Secondary Lupus-Like Syndrome"), Osteoporosis, Pancytopenia, chronic malabsorption/malnutrition, etc.; G-Tube; Currently TPN-dependent.
Meds:  Zofran, Pulmicort, Heparin (to flush PICC line), Claritin, Colloidal Silver (used topically), IV Milk Thistle, probiotics.


rcenters
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   Posted 5/6/2009 8:25 PM (GMT -6)   

I guess what I really meant was whether these are legitimate, in terms of, do they really contain their listed primary ingredients, wolfberry for one and amalaki for the other, I don't really care what the advertising claims may be.  The reason I'm concerned about this is because I can't seem to find these products sold on the websites of mainstream supplement suppliers(which doesn't necessarily mean anything bad, but I personally would expect to be able to find a good product on the website at least one of the national supplement store chains...  Are there any other brands of products that contain wolfberry or amalaki that I can search for, for comparison?

The point behind this being - I have been reading some things that extol the virtues of "synergy" of nutrients; and therefore I am in the process of preparing a broadly scoped diet and supplement plan, attempting to include as wide a range of things as possible, and these looked like as good a thing to include as any. 

On a side note, unrelated to these two products, two questions about vitamins/herbs/etc in gelcap form.

One, if I take everything I've planned out, that will be like 25 gelcaps a day.  Is there any problem with ingesting that much gelatin in that form?

Two, as far as shelf life of a bottle of, say, Vitamin C, or a herb like Cat's Claw.  If it says the Best Used By date is, for example, Dec 2009, is shelf life affected by the fact I've already had them open for over a year?   Or is it sufficient that they are still in their gelcaps?  My Zrii bottle and Ningxia Red packs are around a year old too... 

 


Razzle
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   Posted 5/7/2009 7:54 AM (GMT -6)   
I don't know anything about Zrii. I do know the one-ounce packets of Ningxia Red are ok if they remain sealed. And storage conditions have a lot to do with shelf life - if stored at a cool temperature in a dry room (i.e., not a bathroom or kitchen), most all supplements, etc., will keep longer than if they are not stored under these conditions. Air-tight seals are also helpful for prolonging shelf life, even if the bottle is open, if the lid is closed securely enough to keep air out, the product inside will have a much better shelf life. Typically with herbs, they lose their potency after the expiration date...but not all at once. So if it is 2-3 months past the expiration date, the herbs may be at 90+% potency. If something is 1 year past the expiration date, the potency would likely be less (depending on storage conditions, which herb, what form it is in, etc.). Tinctures preserved with alcohol or glycerine typically keep a lot longer than dried herbs.

No, there shouldn't be a problem with ingesting 25 gelatin capsules a day - gelatin is good for your bones.

Ningxia Red isn't sold in stores as far as I know. I do know the product does contain what is on the label.

Take care,
-Razzle
Chronic Lyme Disease, Gluten & Sulfite Sensitivity, Many Food/Inhalant/Medication/Chemical Allergies & Intolerances, Asthma, Gut issues (dysmotility, non-specific inflammation), UCTD ("Secondary Lupus-Like Syndrome"), Osteoporosis, Pancytopenia, chronic malabsorption/malnutrition, etc.; G-Tube; Currently TPN-dependent.
Meds:  Zofran, Pulmicort, Heparin (to flush PICC line), Claritin, Colloidal Silver (used topically), IV Milk Thistle, probiotics.


hopingToFindCure
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   Posted 5/9/2009 6:18 PM (GMT -6)   
someone posted on another forum that zrii helped reduce or eliminate floaters...if that's the case, order me a case

saxmar
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   Posted 5/11/2009 9:15 AM (GMT -6)   

I didn't notice any help from zrii and they keep sending it and I can't get it off of automatic charges! And I can't afford it!

The credit card company won't cancel it and neither will zrii.

I'd have to cancel my credit card and get a new number. These days it is not smart to mess with cancelling credit cards because they may not renew.

Any help getting zrii cancelled would be appreciated.

The mental anguish has countered any physical help zrii would have given me.

 

saxmar

 

 


Razzle
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   Posted 5/11/2009 2:18 PM (GMT -6)   
Saxmar,

Call them (Zrii contact phone: (801) 878-8000) and tell them if they don't cancel your auto account immediately and refund your money for all deliveries back to the date when you first contacted them about cancelling your account with them, you will do all of the following:

1) Report them to the Better Business Bureau (for their refusal to cancel your account and lousy customer service ~ follow through on this threat)
2) Have your lawyer contact them about harrassment (don't tell them you don't have a lawyer...sometimes it is the threat alone that makes them behave)
3) Tell everyone you know never to buy their product (you've already done some of this by posting here)

Follow this phone conversation with the same info in a letter, sent to the Zrii corporate hq:
Zrii Corporate Headquarters
14183 So. Minuteman Drive
Draper, UT 84020

Another thing you can do is refuse the package when the delivery comes to your door - tell the postal carrier or delivery person you are refusing to accept the package and close your door. If you know you won't be home when the delivery happens, leave a note on the door with specifics of which package you refuse (i.e., sender's name & address) or call the delivery service (USPS/FedEx/UPS) and inform them of this.

Also, write to your credit card company and tell them that all charges made to your account by Zrii since the date you originally contacted Zrii are "disputed charges" and as such you will not be paying them.

I know this is a pain in the keester to do all this, but it may be successful and it may get you some money back to boot.

I hope this helps - good luck,


-Razzle
Chronic Lyme Disease, Gluten & Sulfite Sensitivity, Many Food/Inhalant/Medication/Chemical Allergies & Intolerances, Asthma, Gut issues (dysmotility, non-specific inflammation), UCTD ("Secondary Lupus-Like Syndrome"), Osteoporosis, Pancytopenia, chronic malabsorption/malnutrition, etc.; G-Tube; Currently TPN-dependent.
Meds:  Zofran, Pulmicort, Heparin (to flush PICC line), Claritin, Colloidal Silver (used topically), IV Milk Thistle, probiotics.


saxmar
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   Posted 5/11/2009 2:40 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks Razzle

I did email zrii them and added the Better Business Bureau comment.

Good idea also about disputing charges and not accepting delivery.

I have to say I was disillusioned and dismayed by the lack of help or understanding by the LLMD who got me involved with zrii regarding cancellation.
In my opinion zrii is a mult- level marketing program disguised as a health product. I've had involvement with Amway so I know should have known better. No offense to those who made it work for them.

Because I need their help getting disability I don't want to mention the LLMD'S name. However if anyone recommends zrii I would not advise it.

FYI My cousin had the same type of credit card problems with Alteril. They offer a free trial offer but get your credit card info and never stop selling or billing. My cousin had to cancel his credit card to stop them from charging.

saxmar

RottenDog
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   Posted 5/11/2009 10:47 PM (GMT -6)   
i have gone thro same thing by different online folks and TV orders, i just call my bank to stop them from making charges to my accounts, i also singed the paper work for them to go after the compney and then told said compney that i was going to sue them, boy i got my money back right fast, also make sure you tell them to deled all your info from there files or you will go after them for anything else they send you.

saxmar
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   Posted 5/12/2009 8:14 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks Razzle and Rotten Dog

I just got an email from zrii Customer Service saying I need to call them to cancel my account. It was not that easy before, so we will see.

I will do that as soon as it is 7am MST

I wonder if Deepak Chopra knows that zrii has questionable business practices and uses his name to help sell their product.

Thanks again. Caveat Emptor

saxmar

Sunny1
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   Posted 5/20/2009 8:05 AM (GMT -6)   
These posts are hilarious! Of course DeepakChopra knows they are using his name...do some research! As to cancelling the product...just call customer service and do it..there is no mystery here. They are very conscientious and responsive...just tell them you want to cancel...there is even a toll free # 866-349-9911. As to whether or not it works...yes it really does. HOWEVER, it is NOT a miracle..you must take it regularly at least 2-3 times/day and maybe you will not see results for 3-6 months. You will see differences in your health with daily use in digestion, pain etc, but you do have to take it! There is a wealth of documented research available if anyone wants to take the time to look for it.
go to www.zriiproduct.com to look at the research to date...the company has spent a great deal of money to do intensive research, and it has certifications no other product has. Also NO preservatives which, if you are not aware, are carcinogens.
Hope this helps you .
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