Envita and the FDA

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veromia333
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   Posted 5/26/2009 5:01 PM (GMT -6)   
Envita, in my opinion is a revolutionary miracle. Although I yeah am just begining to learn about that Picture this you have killer cells in your body to fight disease, cancer, tumors anything. Envita WAS collecting your bodies own killer cells from your body when you had a disease cancer tumor and they were mass multiplieing these killer cells and then returning the multiplied cells to your body with success this was working for people erradicating tumors and other conditions... then the FDA comes in and shuts this procedure down. Claiming that they werent fallowing procedure w applieing for a IND new drug app, although it is a natural cell they are using when it is cultivated this way they consider it a drug. and other sanitary ensurrence procedure claims. which im sure they were sanitary. See what happens when you don fu***** dont use a drug to try to cure people. Its unbelievable.

Envita is currently applieing for the FDA's little pieces of paper that will make them happy. As patients go without the treatment. And that is if they approve Envita to do this treatment.

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   Posted 5/26/2009 5:10 PM (GMT -6)   
And yet, regular MD's all over the place are doing just as dangerous an experiment by following CDC guidelines and failing to acknowledge the existance of Chronic Lyme...unfortunately, this experiment is sactioned by the FDA...grrr
-Razzle
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veromia333
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   Posted 5/26/2009 7:25 PM (GMT -6)   
Yeah Raz!

KeepHope
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   Posted 5/26/2009 11:04 PM (GMT -6)   
Oh sheesh Veromia
I was waiting to hear about when they were going to be able to offer that treatment. i did a tour there and they showed me the research room and told me all about it. I did not know about this FDA thing and that is a SHAME Shame shame SHAME!!
Gosh.
Well i hope they get past that and can get back on track and start treating people. My mother has cancer and I was hoping when they got this up and going I could talk her into coming here for treatment and i was thinking of going over there too and we could do it together.

If you have more or ongoing infor I would appreciate you keeping us informed.. THANKS

veromia333
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   Posted 5/27/2009 10:44 AM (GMT -6)   
I cant freeking stand it!. Im watching these talkshows and these crazy people are injecting this and that all over there bodies and the host says well this isnt FDA approved. And oh they let that go you know. The FDA is def in with the pharmaceutical companies. Its murder in my heart what they are doing!

kendal122
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   Posted 5/27/2009 12:39 PM (GMT -6)   
if they cant make money on it. hell with the cure. This is one crazy world we live in....

veromia333
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   Posted 5/27/2009 7:23 PM (GMT -6)   
they were actually doing it for a bit. Shut down... this is the **** I could scream. not other words but swears.
The line is faded not showing where Lyme came in. I became a new Mommy n my Lyme decided to show itself. Swollen elephant like knee and finger and limiting back pain. Bell's palsey, weight loss as if I had no muscle on my bones anymore. And much more text book lyme symptoms. To a Lyme doc, after alot of there is nothing wrong with you and a recommend to counceling,he said V this is Lyme. What kept me pressing on I had Lyme while I was pregnant. I know I was not infected while pregnant. I am watching her with an eagle eye. God Bless everyone. Love Veronica. Were the ones who know about Lyme not the doctors. Isnt that just mad? Backwards. Alice in wonderland.


Martha's Vineyard
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   Posted 5/27/2009 11:11 PM (GMT -6)   
That is not what i understood my friends treatment for their cnacer at envita was. I did however meet some really great people who were there and who were told to change their diets. not smoke, take supplemts and then they got drugs in their ports.
Most of the concer people had already had lots of chemo and radiation and the cancer came back. So these people were trying something else the 2nd or third time around.
And I did see people get better. And I did meet people who also could not be helped too.
2004 in Martha's Vineyard me and my two daughters then 11 mos and 6 all got Lyme Disease. This was only known to us because we found the tiny ticks on us and we got very ill. My dog also got lyme and he went lame.
We have fought it for 4 years to no avail.
We all got it again this summer is Texas.
I am now in treatment in Scottsdale Arizona at Envita.

"The eyes cannot see for for what the mind does not know."


veromia333
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   Posted 5/28/2009 7:42 PM (GMT -6)   
What did you understand. The article i read is redacted. but i believed i read it correctly. i would like to have it right. thanks martha
The line is faded not showing where Lyme came in. I became a new Mommy n my Lyme decided to show itself. Swollen elephant like knee and finger and limiting back pain. Bell's palsey, weight loss as if I had no muscle on my bones anymore. And much more text book lyme symptoms. To a Lyme doc, after alot of there is nothing wrong with you and a recommend to counceling,he said V this is Lyme. What kept me pressing on I had Lyme while I was pregnant. I know I was not infected while pregnant. I am watching her with an eagle eye. God Bless everyone. Love Veronica. Were the ones who know about Lyme not the doctors. Isnt that just mad? Backwards. Alice in wonderland.


spaztick
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   Posted 5/28/2009 9:11 PM (GMT -6)   
Envita (Medical Centers of America - (natural and alternative)) and the FDA:

http://envitainfo.wordpress.com/2008/07/21/envita-and-the-fda/

I'd like to know the approximate cost of Lyme treatment (ozone, silver, hydrogen peroxide) at one of Envita's centers?

Why is it that "specific information about Envita's treatment is available on a password-protected database"?

I listened to "Kim's" video on the Envita web site, where she mentions ozone, silver, and hydrogen peroxide, and also states you have to "start pounding that virus back down." Poor thing, someone forgot to tell her it's "Lyme" not "lymes." The site also mentioned standard treatment such as antibiotic therapy.
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Lyme disease - clinical dx ’08; Babesiosis (Positive IgM/IgG) '08;
GERD '04; Essential Tremor ’03; Fibromyalgia ’01; Osteoarthritis; Depression; IBS; Interstitial Cystitis


KeepHope
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   Posted 5/28/2009 10:33 PM (GMT -6)   
The thing is that I think they actually were set up to treat Cancer and autoimmune diseases but NOT lyme disease.
Then they ended up with a couple doctors meeting up at some point and learning from one another they started to add Lyme Disease to the list. They started out using the same protocols and they just added antibiotics back about 6 months ago.

This is all from my memory as I have checked up on this Clinic and Read the Site and toured the facility over the past Months. I started out looking back last October.

So. anyway. they are not so well versed but do offer great protocols that can help any immune system and as well clean the blood and kill pathogens.

Therefore we just need to remember that and them adding it to be a specific protocol is something that kinda evolved.

veromia333
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   Posted 5/28/2009 10:35 PM (GMT -6)   
i think you call to get a password prob so they can get your info to send you info and educate you.
The line is faded not showing where Lyme came in. I became a new Mommy n my Lyme decided to show itself. Swollen elephant like knee and finger and limiting back pain. Bell's palsey, weight loss as if I had no muscle on my bones anymore. And much more text book lyme symptoms. To a Lyme doc, after alot of there is nothing wrong with you and a recommend to counceling,he said V this is Lyme. What kept me pressing on I had Lyme while I was pregnant. I know I was not infected while pregnant. I am watching her with an eagle eye. God Bless everyone. Love Veronica. Were the ones who know about Lyme not the doctors. Isnt that just mad? Backwards. Alice in wonderland.


sickof lyme
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   Posted 5/29/2009 8:22 AM (GMT -6)   
Thats kinda funny I noticed that Kim girl on the video say Lymes instead of LYme ,for some reason that bugs me too!! LOok at the other Envita blog it list the prices!

veromia333
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   Posted 5/29/2009 10:35 AM (GMT -6)   
I didnt know for sure that it wasnt lymes but I didnt like it either. But it could be a possesive form of the word which is also personification of either the town or the bug if its the bug hahaa we need not give it anymore power! Right?

spaztick
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   Posted 5/29/2009 8:18 PM (GMT -6)   
Saying "I have lymes" is like saying "I have the flus'', "I have depressions", ''I have acid refluxes"...

I normally don't let it irritate me when it comes from a layperson, but in the case of a ''cutting-edge'' medical center that purportedly uses ''advanced natural treatments from all over the world''..."the best of what's available in both natural and conventional medicine"...Come on.

The icing on the cake, though, was when Kim said ''you have to start pounding that VIRUS back down.'' Wow! Who was in charge of editing this advertisement video? The purpose of their password-protection? A sales pitch opportunity. "I'll tell you about it if there's a chance you'll fork over your hard-earned dollars."

I think it's password-protected to get the desperate fall for their advertising scheme. Are we desperate? I know I have been!

Again, I could be wrong. Revolutionary miracle or snake oil? Preying on the desperate or dedicated to the diagnosis and treatment of Lyme disease?
*Abx combo tx since Jan/08*
Lyme disease - clinical dx ’08; Babesiosis (Positive IgM/IgG) '08;
GERD '04; Essential Tremor ’03; Fibromyalgia ’01; Osteoarthritis; Depression; IBS; Interstitial Cystitis

Post Edited (spaztick) : 5/29/2009 8:21:45 PM (GMT-6)


veromia333
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   Posted 5/29/2009 9:30 PM (GMT -6)   
Im off and on too. But i believe they are trieing harder than most others for sure.
The line is faded not showing where Lyme came in. I became a new Mommy n my Lyme decided to show itself. Swollen elephant like knee and finger and limiting back pain. Bell's palsey, weight loss as if I had no muscle on my bones anymore. And much more text book lyme symptoms. To a Lyme doc, after alot of there is nothing wrong with you and a recommend to counceling,he said V this is Lyme. What kept me pressing on I had Lyme while I was pregnant. I know I was not infected while pregnant. I am watching her with an eagle eye. God Bless everyone. Love Veronica. Were the ones who know about Lyme not the doctors. Isnt that just mad? Backwards. Alice in wonderland.


hiker53
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   Posted 5/30/2009 11:42 AM (GMT -6)   
If Kim at Envita talks about Lyme as a viurs, she has that wrong, too. Lyme is a spirochete bacteria.
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spaztick
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   Posted 5/30/2009 4:26 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi hiker, Yes, that was one of my points. The person(s) at Envita who was in charge of editing this advertisement video definitely should have said "bacteria" not "virus." The video loses its credibility due to these types of errors, in my opinion.

But hey, if I had tons of money, and there was a chance that some of their supplemental treatments may help me, without causing any harm, I would consider signing up. But then again I'd more likely travel to the States to find a new LLMD to prescribe IV antibiotic treatment first. Let's see, I could hire a nurse and stay at a five-star hotel in Hawaii, and my husband could go surfing. Oh, and I think I'd hire a personal shopper, too. Because I'd definitely need new fancy duds.
*Oral Abx Combo Tx since Jan/08*
Lyme disease - clinical dx ’08; Babesiosis (Positive IgM/IgG) '08;
GERD '05; Essential Tremor ’02; Fibromyalgia ’00; Osteoarthritis; Depression; IBS; Interstitial Cystitis


sickof lyme
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   Posted 5/30/2009 4:53 PM (GMT -6)   
I dont know what the research login is all about but I do know that the whiteboard info they have you can click has a tremendous amount of info and its not password protected! well worth checking out!    

runkiteer
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   Posted 5/4/2012 9:29 PM (GMT -6)   
I was a patient at envita for 6 weeks...I would love to share my experience and I would love to connect with other Envita patients to hear about their outcomes.

aPlease don't hesitate to e-mail me runkiteer @gmail.com

Thank You

tommyboy
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   Posted 4/11/2014 2:49 PM (GMT -6)   
Great to see Blogs like this it really helps, I been struggling with Lyme disease for over 5 years and Have tried everything and been to many doctors and spent so much money with this horrible disease. I am currently an Envita patient and I can truly say they changed my life, i have not felt this good, really have never felt this good since I can’t remember when. I think it’s fair to share both positives and negatives. But compared to what I done before and where I been Envita saved my life. And other patients around me seem to be having really positive experiences. My recommendation is to each his own, blogs can be one sided and misleading and Envita really has taken great care of me.
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