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CajunGrl
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   Posted 5/27/2009 8:28 PM (GMT -6)   
Do any of you have a swimming pool and use it as therapy to improve the strength in your muscles? Im thinking about getting a pool. What do you all think about this? My muscles have been hurting really bad. I can barely do anything anymore and they are getting weak. Sometimes, I can't even open a water bottle. I also noticed that when I push myself just a tiny bit, I pay for it for 2-3 days and my muscles hurt like i've been working out.

What do you guys do to help your muscles out?
2003 symptoms started
2007 Diagnosed with Lyme. Didn't start treatment.
2008 symptoms came back with a vengence.
2009 Diagnosed with Lyme plus co-infections....Babesia and Bartonella.
Illnesses:-Chronic Lyme Disease,Hashimotos Thyroiditis, Ulcers, Hypoglycemia
Medications:-Biaxin 250mg to start,Mepron,Ultram,Thyro Complex 60mg,Probiotics and supplements


hopingToFindCure
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   Posted 5/27/2009 8:37 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes. I have done it and it is the best.

Start with a class but start very slowly -- first week 15 minutes and then work up to half an hour and then after you have built your stamina, the full 45 minutes.

Follow it up with hot tub and steam room/sauna.

Watch the diet and you'll feel better in no time. I promise!

Also, yoga can make you strong. AND, always use yoga time for positive visualization -- killing lyme bacteria, and getting better every day.

GOOD LUCK CAJUNGIRL
Bit June 08.


CajunGrl
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   Posted 5/28/2009 1:15 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for replying. I've been debating back and forth whether I should get it or not. I really need to do something and soon. My muscles are getting worse. All I did yesterday was wash my dog and she is little. Only weighs 4 pounds. It took me a while because she has alot of hair but I didn't do anything strenuous. I hurt that night really bad. I felt like my whole body was crashing. It was really weird.

If I do get the pool, I hope I feel good enough to get in. <sigh>
2003 symptoms started
2007 Diagnosed with Lyme. Didn't start treatment.
2008 symptoms came back with a vengence.
2009 Diagnosed with Lyme plus co-infections....Babesia and Bartonella.
Illnesses:-Chronic Lyme Disease,Hashimotos Thyroiditis, Ulcers, Hypoglycemia
Medications:-Biaxin 250mg to start,Mepron,Ultram,Thyro Complex 60mg,Probiotics and supplements


JELAINEP
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   Posted 5/28/2009 5:58 AM (GMT -6)   
I'm embarrassed to say that I have an inground pool (only 4 ft. deep though - don't ask, we bought the house this way - haha) and I never use it. I am either too tired, I'm on abx's that cause sun burns... I'm too fat for my bathing suit. I don't have the energy to shop and buy a new bathing suit, etc. etc. Also, our pool just doesn't warm up, it's in the shade after 2pm and just freezes up.

I know these are excuses and that I've got to get in the pool and walk, just walk. Maybe I'll start today and take advantage of what I've been blessed with.

This disease just sucks wind.... and has sucked the life out of me.
Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has.  - Margaret Meade
06/00- The beginning, 08/01-LD positive, 10/01- Igenex and CDC LD positive, 10/02-LD positive, 11/03-LD positive, 10/07-Bartonella positive, CD57=3, possibly just tested positive for koseri IgA, Morganella motgani,Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever (RMSF - yay! another acronym), Typhus Fever, Klebsiella pneumonia, Proteus miabilis, Citrobacter i IgA, Hafnia alvai IgA, NKC4, Interleukin 4 (IL4), IL8, Immunobillin (IM01). 
Current Rx's 11/12/08: Wellbutrin 300mg, Paxil 60mg, Xanax 5mg, Acidophilus, Lyrica 600mg
"How much more can I take?", songhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gHiR1xeOSs


Dowa
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   Posted 5/28/2009 12:18 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey J, the chlorine does not bother you? I have access to a pool but was worried about the chemicals. D

CajunGrl
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   Posted 5/28/2009 1:40 PM (GMT -6)   
Jelaine,

LOL Let me tell you. If anybody is fat, it is me and I just don't care right now, LOL. I never used to be like this but thyroid problems and anti-depressants helped me along. I don't care if I have to go outside in a shirt and shorts, LOL, seriously. I just want to feel better. Blah! I'm hoping it helps my muscles. I guess if it doesn't, then my youngest daughter can enjoy it because she's been wanting a pool.
2003 symptoms started
2007 Diagnosed with Lyme. Didn't start treatment.
2008 symptoms came back with a vengence.
2009 Diagnosed with Lyme plus co-infections....Babesia and Bartonella.
Illnesses:-Chronic Lyme Disease,Hashimotos Thyroiditis, Ulcers, Hypoglycemia
Medications:-Biaxin 250mg to start,Mepron,Ultram,Thyro Complex 60mg,Probiotics and supplements


hopingToFindCure
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   Posted 5/28/2009 6:52 PM (GMT -6)   
Get a lap pool. Have them add a jacuzi hot tub to it. It' s the best thing going to get your temperature up and continue to fight this -- and everything else -- forever.

I gave my little dog a bath last night...he smelled like he had been rolling in s#$%!!!

He's much more pleasant to be around now. I love my little pup...

Sorry, I think, no, I know, my ADD is worse w/ Lyme.
Bit June 08.


CajunGrl
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   Posted 5/28/2009 7:03 PM (GMT -6)   
HopingToFindCure,

Thanks for the info. I have a Pomeranian and she can smell really bad sometimes too, LOL. She's an inside dog too. The only time she really goes outside is when she goes to the bathroom. I will have to start letting her outside more often though because I thought she weighed 4 pounds but my husband informed me that she gained weight. She is 5.8 pounds now. She's looks like a fat sausage with all that hair, LOL. She has been panting lately and I think it's because she gained weight. Too many greenie bones.

You don't have anything to apologise for. You did fine. I am all over the place sometimes when I write and I don't even have ADD.
2003 symptoms started
2007 Diagnosed with Lyme. Didn't start treatment.
2008 symptoms came back with a vengence.
2009 Diagnosed with Lyme plus co-infections....Babesia and Bartonella.
Illnesses:-Chronic Lyme Disease,Hashimotos Thyroiditis, Ulcers, Hypoglycemia
Medications:-Biaxin 250mg to start,Mepron,Ultram,Thyro Complex 60mg,Probiotics and supplements


JELAINEP
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   Posted 5/29/2009 10:28 AM (GMT -6)   
I went swimming yesterday... walked around the pool about 12 times and then walked backwards about 12 times and then did leg kicks and swam undewater from corner to corner..... (it's probably the smallest in ground pool in the world - haha).

But, I just told my husband to order a weight scale and told him I was ready to get the weight off. I am 5' 7" and used to weigh around 130 lbs. I seriously need to lose about 30 lbs. I'm just glad I'm not in the 180's like I was before gallbladder surgery.

I've never HAD TO excercise or diet before in my life.......................... but, I've got to be willing to do EVERYTHING I can to get rid of this instead of laying in bed all day pissing and moaning. Next, depending on IV Vanco in a few weeks, I'm going after the cigarettes. It's time. UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have NEVER been embarrassed about my looks or weight, but Lyme has taken it's toll. I saw a few pictures of myself from March (my husbands surprise b-day party).... and I looked bad, really bad... even though I did my hair, had on makeup, decent clothes, nice shoes (high heel clogs)..................... UUUUUGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has.  - Margaret Meade
06/00- The beginning, 08/01-LD positive, 10/01- Igenex and CDC LD positive, 10/02-LD positive, 11/03-LD positive, 10/07-Bartonella positive, CD57=3, possibly just tested positive for koseri IgA, Morganella motgani,Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever (RMSF - yay! another acronym), Typhus Fever, Klebsiella pneumonia, Proteus miabilis, Citrobacter i IgA, Hafnia alvai IgA, NKC4, Interleukin 4 (IL4), IL8, Immunobillin (IM01). 
Current Rx's 11/12/08: Wellbutrin 300mg, Paxil 60mg, Xanax 5mg, Acidophilus, Lyrica 600mg
"How much more can I take?", songhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gHiR1xeOSs


Turquoise Sky
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   Posted 5/29/2009 11:10 AM (GMT -6)   
As long as your husband wants to do the work and it will benefit your daughter, and you live in a warm place, or you can afford something heated, it would be worth it.

I have a pool in the backyard, not in ground. We got it when our son was younger, instead of going to the pulic pool, where the chlorine was so strong his nose would bleed. I can't stand it though. It's too cold most of the time. There was one summer that it stayed warm enough for me to want to be in it, about 6 or 7 years ago. I was the one who talked my husband into it, but my own preference would and probably should have been a hot tub. It is also a lot of work.
Maybe this year I will manage to talk my husband into a solar panel heater. It would cost approx. $150 I think, which seemed like a lot for something not necessary, but running the pool and hardly ever using it doesn't make sense either.

My son bought me Wii Fit, and that has been good for me. I haven't been able to do all of the exercises and it tells me that balance is not my strong suit, but it helps to get me moving a little bit, when I force myself onto it. For that you might need someone who is game literate, to get started, and only you know your limitations.

CajunGrl
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   Posted 5/29/2009 2:03 PM (GMT -6)   
Jelaine,

Yay!!!! I'm so glad you got in the pool!!!! Girl, you are so far from fat. I am 5'8" and ummmm I weigh more than you. I'm not saying how much, haha! And it doesn't matter how big your pool is as long as you can do what you need to do. You go girl!! I am proud of you!
2003 symptoms started
2007 Diagnosed with Lyme. Didn't start treatment.
2008 symptoms came back with a vengence.
2009 Diagnosed with Lyme plus co-infections....Babesia and Bartonella.
Illnesses:-Chronic Lyme Disease,Hashimotos Thyroiditis, Ulcers, Hypoglycemia
Medications:-Biaxin 250mg to start,Mepron,Ultram,Thyro Complex 60mg,Probiotics and supplements


CajunGrl
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   Posted 5/29/2009 2:10 PM (GMT -6)   
Turquoise,

I live in the South....wayyyy in the South, so it stays really hot here for the summer. Sometimes so hot, I feel like I can't breathe, LOL. I'm not sure if that's a good thing, but the swimming pool would sure help.

Yeah, I know a pool is alot of work. My brother was just telling me how much I'll have to do. I guess I think it's worth it right now because I'm kinda getting scared about my muscles.

I bought both of my daughters a Wii for Christmas. I'd like to get Wii Fit
when I get stronger.
2003 symptoms started
2007 Diagnosed with Lyme. Didn't start treatment.
2008 symptoms came back with a vengence.
2009 Diagnosed with Lyme plus co-infections....Babesia and Bartonella.
Illnesses:-Chronic Lyme Disease,Hashimotos Thyroiditis, Ulcers, Hypoglycemia
Medications:-Biaxin 250mg to start,Mepron,Ultram,Thyro Complex 60mg,Probiotics and supplements

Post Edited (CajunGrl) : 5/29/2009 7:33:01 PM (GMT-6)


hopingToFindCure
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   Posted 5/29/2009 7:17 PM (GMT -6)   
If you live in the South and can afford a pool, it's the only way to survive.

For folks worried about chlorine, I think you can get salt water pools now? Or natural "green" ones.

Doesn't that sound so wonderful?

personally, i look forward to a little extra heat as it soothes the soul and the eases the pain.
Bit June 08.


CajunGrl
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   Posted 5/29/2009 7:45 PM (GMT -6)   
HopingToFindCure,

You're so right. A good dip after a long, hot day would be so nice.

My cousin just got a salt water pool. From what they say, it's easier to keep clean and the salt doesn't burn your eyes. I don't know. I'm not sure how much they cost either. I think I will stick to chlorine because I hate change, LOL.
2003 symptoms started
2007 Diagnosed with Lyme. Didn't start treatment.
2008 symptoms came back with a vengence.
2009 Diagnosed with Lyme plus co-infections....Babesia and Bartonella.
Illnesses:-Chronic Lyme Disease,Hashimotos Thyroiditis, Ulcers, Hypoglycemia
Medications:-Biaxin 250mg to start,Mepron,Ultram,Thyro Complex 60mg,Probiotics and supplements


hopingToFindCure
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   Posted 5/30/2009 7:42 AM (GMT -6)   
Well, salt is something to look into and I encourage you to change with the times!!! LOL.

BTW, chlorine is good for public pools as you want to kill all that gunk that occassionally floats by.

Anywho, salt water pool is tricky to maintain or some such thing to do with ph levels.

On another subject, while you're at it it why not install a hot tub and sauna.

http://ezinearticles.com/?Proven-Infrared-Sauna-Health-Benefits---Alternative-Ways-to-Staying-Healthy&id=2394594
Bit June 08.


CajunGrl
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   Posted 5/30/2009 1:52 PM (GMT -6)   
Well, I really want a pool, LOL. I think I would pass out if I got in a hot tub right now. I am actually thinking about getting a portable sauna though to see if it helps me detox.

I told my husband last night that I would be scared to have a salt water pool because if anything crawled in it(ewwwwwww), I wouldn't be able to see in there. It reminds me of when we go salt water fishing. You just can't see through the water, LOL. I know, I'm weird like that.

Oh, thanks for the info.
2003 symptoms started
2007 Diagnosed with Lyme. Didn't start treatment.
2008 symptoms came back with a vengence.
2009 Diagnosed with Lyme plus co-infections....Babesia and Bartonella.
Illnesses:-Chronic Lyme Disease,Hashimotos Thyroiditis, Ulcers, Hypoglycemia
Medications:-Biaxin 250mg to start,Mepron,Ultram,Thyro Complex 60mg,Probiotics and supplements


KeepHope
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   Posted 5/30/2009 2:27 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes The pool i is awesome.. Two years ago I swam or walked in the pool at least 5 days a week. I had a relapse and have not again but I WANT TO and NEED TO. I even had put a pool heater on my inground pool and bought a salt system too...

It sure helped me a lot with many things including digestion and strength and mood even.
We all know and have been told the importance of it.

With us though we have to be so careful. There is fine line as to where neough is enough or too much etc. It does not take much for it too be too much and be bedridden for the next day or days.. I have found I know pretty much where the line is and that is why I have not be in the pool at all for a long time now.

But I could FLOAT or just walk a little. And I have just not been up to it. By the way Have you guys just FLOATED around before?
It is the only time i have felt Pain Relief to that extent. I lay there and then try to memorize and embed that feeling into my mind.
Sadly gravity gets back on board but it sure is nice to have those moments. Floating is my favorite way to get that . I also meditate while I am floating and listen and watch the birds in the sky . The clouds too!

Thanks .. Happy Swimming.

CajunGrl
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   Posted 5/30/2009 4:23 PM (GMT -6)   
KeepHope,

I know exactly what you're talking about when you said be careful not to push too hard. I've been doing that lately when I have a good day because I want to do everything. I feel like a kid that's been locked up for months, then let out into a candy store. I just want to do it all, then I pay for it for days. I don't know my limits yet. I've got to work on that.

Your discription of "floating" and just relaxing and listening to the birds is incredible. It makes me want the pool even more now. I hope the floating for me eases some of my pain because it has been constant lately and getting worse.

When you float, do you float in the water or are you on a float?
2003 symptoms started
2007 Diagnosed with Lyme. Didn't start treatment.
2008 symptoms came back with a vengence.
2009 Diagnosed with Lyme plus co-infections....Babesia and Bartonella.
Illnesses:-Chronic Lyme Disease,Hashimotos Thyroiditis, Ulcers, Hypoglycemia
Medications:-Biaxin 250mg to start,Mepron,Ultram,Thyro Complex 60mg,Probiotics and supplements


Turquoise Sky
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   Posted 5/30/2009 5:35 PM (GMT -6)   
Duh! I guess I should have realized that you are in the south by your name!

The only way I would get into the pool last year was on an inflatable lounge, and with my husband's promise not to splash me. I think I was only in there once the whole summer, because the water never warmed up enough for me to tolerate it. The good thing is that while I was floating and looking up at the clouds, I was given the answer to how to make the wire wrapped angel I was trying to design at the time.

The only thing I was just thinking of though, is if you are going to start abx will it be IV?

And as far as the weight, I have lost weight and have gained weight, and I am the heaviest I've been outside of pregnancy, and I am more accepting of my body now than I ever have been. Getting healthy and feeling well are more important than how I look at this point.

Turquoise Sky
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   Posted 5/30/2009 5:38 PM (GMT -6)   
Oh, by the way, did you get to take your daughter to the fair?

CajunGrl
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   Posted 5/30/2009 6:59 PM (GMT -6)   
Turquoise,

Yep, I'm a Cajun but not like the ones you see being interviewed on tv or in the movies. Seriously, they pick the worst people ever to play in movies. It makes us look bad and uneducated. I used to get asked if I have alligators in my yard. Ummmm, no. I do have dogs and cats though if that counts, LOL. I truly hate the way movies portray us. I'm very educated and literate....thank you very much! (Thats not meant to you, that's just my frustration). I've actually not started my treatment yet. I will be starting soon though and it will be oral antibiotics. So, I don't have to worry about getting a picc line wet, just yet. I'm actually kinda scared to have that put in and I'm hoping the antibiotics work.

I would really love to lose weight right now, but that's not my priority. I've got to get better before I even attempt exercising. I just want to get better. That's all I'm worried about.

The last day for the fair is tomorrow! I've been feeling like crap this past week but I'm gonna try to push myself and bring her. I think this fair coming to town has gotten me upset because it just brings back memories of how every year, I have to push myself to do something for my daughter. I always have to extend her birthday because I feel bad. Grrrrrrrr! I just want to scream!
2003 symptoms started
2007 Diagnosed with Lyme. Didn't start treatment.
2008 symptoms came back with a vengence.
2009 Diagnosed with Lyme plus co-infections....Babesia and Bartonella.
Illnesses:-Chronic Lyme Disease,Hashimotos Thyroiditis, Ulcers, Hypoglycemia
Medications:-Biaxin 250mg to start,Mepron,Ultram,Thyro Complex 60mg,Probiotics and supplements

Post Edited (CajunGrl) : 5/30/2009 7:10:48 PM (GMT-6)


CajunGrl
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   Posted 5/30/2009 7:07 PM (GMT -6)   
Did any of you see, "In the Electric Mist"? John Goodman and Tommy Lee Jones played in it. It was filmed here and was pretty cool seeing all of our streets and buildings on Tv. The only thing I hated was that they were in the swamps and the actors trying to talk "Cajun" sounded uneducated. And, they didn't pronounce some of the names of our bayous right. Anyway......LOL.
2003 symptoms started
2007 Diagnosed with Lyme. Didn't start treatment.
2008 symptoms came back with a vengence.
2009 Diagnosed with Lyme plus co-infections....Babesia and Bartonella.
Illnesses:-Chronic Lyme Disease,Hashimotos Thyroiditis, Ulcers, Hypoglycemia
Medications:-Biaxin 250mg to start,Mepron,Ultram,Thyro Complex 60mg,Probiotics and supplements


Turquoise Sky
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   Posted 5/31/2009 5:24 PM (GMT -6)   
I hope the oral abx. are enough for you!

I was nervous about getting the picc put in, but I work in a nursing home, so know of several residents that have had them. One actually ripped his out twice, and one really wonderful woman who was in a car accident, reassured me a lot. I miss a lot of the residents, and as much as I would like to see her again, I hope her rehab went well and she is home by now. I also watched a you tube of a young girl talking about hers, and that also helped. Once the picc was in, it was a couple days later that I even thought about the fact that this thing has to come out, and what is that going to be like, and feeling almost more nervous than before it was put in! After talking to one of the nurses on the phone, who asked if I had any questions, was told that it is really not bad at all, like having an itch that you can't scratch and finallybeing able to scratch it, and that the visiting nurse will most likely remove it. One thing it doesn't like though is heat. I am glad it is coming out on Tuesday and I hope it was long enough, but I can't imagine people having it in for months at a time, and to have it in during the warm months or warmer climates would be aggravating!
I haven't seen that movie, is it good? My mother in law is from West Virginia. Have you seen the movie Wrong Turn? That is taking stereotyping to the extreme! Her brothers go hunting near the area that that is supposed to take place.

Hope you had a good day for the fair!

CajunGrl
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   Posted 5/31/2009 5:57 PM (GMT -6)   
Turquoise,

I draw blood for a living....well, not now because I can't work, but that's basically what I do. I can stick anyone with a needle and not flinch but the minute one is put in me, I freak. Weird huh? LOL. When I give myself B-12 shots, it freaks me out seeing that needle inside of me. I know it is just a mental thing though. I just can't imagine thinking about that picc line inside of me especially when I have anxiety attacks. I had a permanent brace put in the back of my teeth to keep my teeth straight after I got my braces off and it freaked me out for months, LOL. I have this this about being stuck or trapped or things being stuck or trapped on me. It's weird.

I didn't get to bring my daughter to the fair:( I was feeling too bad. I didn't have enough energy to even push myself. I told her I would make it up to her like I usually do. Thanks for asking. It's been a real hard week for me.
2003 symptoms started
2007 Diagnosed with Lyme. Didn't start treatment.
2008 symptoms came back with a vengence.
2009 Diagnosed with Lyme plus co-infections....Babesia and Bartonella.
Illnesses:-Chronic Lyme Disease,Hashimotos Thyroiditis, Ulcers, Hypoglycemia
Medications:-Biaxin 250mg to start,Mepron,Ultram,Thyro Complex 60mg,Probiotics and supplements

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