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+Lyme
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   Posted 5/29/2009 8:26 PM (GMT -6)   
No need for anyone to look anything up, because I've been doing that and finding conflicting info.  I just want to know what you believe.
 
We do not remember for sure, but recall that my tick may have been a Lone Star tick.  Could have been a nymph, it was so tiny ON THE FIRST DAY. (daughter thought it was a little mole or freckle) The CDC, amongst others, has stated that Lone Star ticks do NOT carry Lyme.  They carry STARI which has lymelike symptoms,  but they do not become chronic.
 
I frequent an area that has all kinds of ticks. I don't know how one could be so sure a certain tick does not carry a certain disease (Lyme) -- unless there is some kind of biological reason.
 
Input? Knowledge? Thanks!

CajunGrl
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   Posted 5/29/2009 8:47 PM (GMT -6)   
I think Lyme can be anywhere. Especially after all of the nasty hurricanes we've had. They used to say that Mosquitos couldn't carry anything either but we now have West Nile Virus. I think this disease is worldwide but not everyone knows it yet. I also think that Fibromyalgia is actually Lyme Disease in most patients. They have recently found Lyme Disease in Chiggers down here in the south. If Ticks and Chiggers(sp?) can carry it, then why can't other bugs carry it too? I also believe that fleas carry it too.
2003 symptoms started
2007 Diagnosed with Lyme. Didn't start treatment.
2008 symptoms came back with a vengence.
2009 Diagnosed with Lyme plus co-infections....Babesia and Bartonella.
Illnesses:-Chronic Lyme Disease,Hashimotos Thyroiditis, Ulcers, Hypoglycemia
Medications:-Biaxin 250mg to start,Mepron,Ultram,Thyro Complex 60mg,Probiotics and supplements


Razzle
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   Posted 5/29/2009 9:41 PM (GMT -6)   
The CDC is trying to deny that Lyme or anything related (STARI, coinfections) can possibly be chronic. And in my opinion, STARI is Lyme.
-Razzle
Chronic Lyme Disease, Gluten & Sulfite Sensitivity, Many Food/Inhalant/Medication/Chemical Allergies & Intolerances, Asthma, Gut issues (dysmotility, non-specific inflammation), UCTD ("Secondary Lupus-Like Syndrome"), Osteoporosis, Pancytopenia, chronic malabsorption/malnutrition, etc.; G-Tube; Currently TPN-dependent.
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+Lyme
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   Posted 5/30/2009 10:28 AM (GMT -6)   
Yeah, that makes sense, Razzle. As far as I know, we have every kind of tick here and all the LLMDs are full. It made no sense to me that certain ticks only carry certain diseases. It would mean that certain ticks never feed off certain animals, and I guess their 'tendancies' could be possible, but it makes no sense that a lone star tick doesn't carry lyme, when all the others do, and they're all feeding in the same area. (I also read that LS ticks are very aggressive when looking for a meal. Watch out!)
 
and YIKES, cajungrl -- it's really getting scary, isn't it??

JELAINEP
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   Posted 5/30/2009 4:21 PM (GMT -6)   
STARI is Lyme, RMSF is Lyme, Bartonella is LYME................. I think, just as a real general term, Lyme disease and ALL co-infections or infections carried by a tick/mosquito, etc. kind of fall under the big umbrella of "Lyme disease".

Just my humble opinion.
Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has.  - Margaret Meade
06/00- The beginning, 08/01-LD positive, 10/01- Igenex and CDC LD positive, 10/02-LD positive, 11/03-LD positive, 10/07-Bartonella positive, CD57=3, possibly just tested positive for koseri IgA, Morganella motgani,Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever (RMSF - yay! another acronym), Typhus Fever, Klebsiella pneumonia, Proteus miabilis, Citrobacter i IgA, Hafnia alvai IgA, NKC4, Interleukin 4 (IL4), IL8, Immunobillin (IM01). 
Current Rx's 11/12/08: Wellbutrin 300mg, Paxil 60mg, Xanax 5mg, Acidophilus, Lyrica 600mg
"How much more can I take?", songhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gHiR1xeOSs


CajunGrl
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   Posted 5/30/2009 4:28 PM (GMT -6)   
We saw a spider yesterday that looked just like a tick. It freaked me out! My husband even thought it was a tick. It had a pointed face and everything. The legs were shaped like a tick too. But, when my husband went to get it off the wall, it shot out it's web. I've never seen something so nasty in my life!
2003 symptoms started
2007 Diagnosed with Lyme. Didn't start treatment.
2008 symptoms came back with a vengence.
2009 Diagnosed with Lyme plus co-infections....Babesia and Bartonella.
Illnesses:-Chronic Lyme Disease,Hashimotos Thyroiditis, Ulcers, Hypoglycemia
Medications:-Biaxin 250mg to start,Mepron,Ultram,Thyro Complex 60mg,Probiotics and supplements


JELAINEP
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   Posted 5/31/2009 11:18 AM (GMT -6)   
The "Lone Star" and his sidekick "Mountain Spotted"
Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has.  - Margaret Meade
06/00- The beginning, 08/01-LD positive, 10/01- Igenex and CDC LD positive, 10/02-LD positive, 11/03-LD positive, 10/07-Bartonella positive, CD57=3, possibly just tested positive for koseri IgA, Morganella motgani,Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever (RMSF - yay! another acronym), Typhus Fever, Klebsiella pneumonia, Proteus miabilis, Citrobacter i IgA, Hafnia alvai IgA, NKC4, Interleukin 4 (IL4), IL8, Immunobillin (IM01). 
Current Rx's 11/12/08: Wellbutrin 300mg, Paxil 60mg, Xanax 5mg, Acidophilus, Lyrica 600mg
"How much more can I take?", songhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gHiR1xeOSs


Flea Meds
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   Posted 6/8/2009 3:52 AM (GMT -6)   
Your forum is very nice.....
I got many useful information from your forum.....
Thanks for your information......

http://www.fleameds4less.com

Traveler
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   Posted 6/8/2009 5:04 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi +Lyme,
Unfortunately, I have been dxed with STARI, as well as LD & other co's were just assumed. There are a handful of LLMD's that are trying to get STARIs' name changed to Masters' Disease. My LLMD was the one that they are trying to name it after, because of the work he (& now his son) has done.
NO matter what others may say, STARI = Lyme. I have had sx for most of my life & this is the only doc who would help & he did help!
Unfortunately, I can't take the 5 hour dive one-way to continue under his care any more.
I also have done a lot of research reading & have found support for this LLMDs' claim that STARI = LD. It just affects the body a little differently.
Since my brain infection of LD, sadly I have been unable t return to a lot of in-depth reading & comprehending - although I'm not giving up on trying to get back there.

This has been partly opinion & partly facts - I hope I have made it pretty clear as to which is which.
Trav
May we all find peace soon, and may peace prevail on all of earth - Traveler


JELAINEP
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   Posted 6/8/2009 5:31 PM (GMT -6)   
screw'm - Lyme disease is Lyme disease!
Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has.  - Margaret Meade
06/00- The beginning, 08/01-LD positive, 10/01- Igenex and CDC LD positive, 10/02-LD positive, 11/03-LD positive, 10/07-Bartonella positive, CD57=3, possibly just tested positive for koseri IgA, Morganella motgani,Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever (RMSF - yay! another acronym), Typhus Fever, Klebsiella pneumonia, Proteus miabilis, Citrobacter i IgA, Hafnia alvai IgA, NKC4, Interleukin 4 (IL4), IL8, Immunobillin (IM01). 
Current Rx's 11/12/08: Wellbutrin 300mg, Paxil 60mg, Xanax 5mg, Acidophilus, Lyrica 600mg
"How much more can I take?", songhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gHiR1xeOSs


+Lyme
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   Posted 6/8/2009 7:55 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks, everyone. You all make more sense than those who say, 'nope. The Lone Star Tick does not carry lyme. It carries it's own separate disease.'

Funny -- I sleep w/ dogs, so I was brushing off and smoothing my bottom sheet. There I found a teeny tiny DEAD Lone Star tick!!! Take THAT you Rat Bstrd!!
Lyme in NC in 1971? Suspect TBI: Fully engorged tick followed by high fever and tonsillitis. Follwed by , lumps on neck,  chronic tonsillits w/ constant low grade to recurring high (104) fevers, severe unexplained neck stiffness and acute neck pain.   Followed by tonsillectomy, urinary tract infections, miscarriage, appendicitis while pregant, chronic severe back pain. Followed by depression, mild anxiety, mitral valve prolapse, and hypglycemia.  What was this??
 
Bit again couple of times, lyme suspect bite Mother's Day 2007. Bite, symptoms, lyme specific antibodies on the most lyme specific band of all = 39 IgG.  Still awaiting appt w/ LLMD.


CajunGrl
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   Posted 6/8/2009 10:32 PM (GMT -6)   
Traveler,

What state are you from?
2003 symptoms started;panic attacks,anxiety,heightened senses.
2007 Diagnosed with Lyme. Didn't start treatment.
2008 symptoms came back with a vengence.
2009 Diagnosed with Lyme plus co-infections....Babesia and Bartonella.
Illnesses:-Chronic Lyme Disease,Hashimotos Thyroiditis, Ulcers, Hypoglycemia
Medications:-Biaxin 250mg to start,Mepron,Ultram,Thyro Complex 60mg,Probiotics and supplements


CajunGrl
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   Posted 6/8/2009 10:33 PM (GMT -6)   
+Lyme,

Did you read that article posted about Lyme Disease being in the South? VERY interesting!
2003 symptoms started;panic attacks,anxiety,heightened senses.
2007 Diagnosed with Lyme. Didn't start treatment.
2008 symptoms came back with a vengence.
2009 Diagnosed with Lyme plus co-infections....Babesia and Bartonella.
Illnesses:-Chronic Lyme Disease,Hashimotos Thyroiditis, Ulcers, Hypoglycemia
Medications:-Biaxin 250mg to start,Mepron,Ultram,Thyro Complex 60mg,Probiotics and supplements


Traveler
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   Posted 6/9/2009 9:33 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Cajungirl,
I'm in Northern Arkansas, although I have done some traveling around the US & have had ticks attach while in quite a few states.
I have been in chronic form for most (if not all) of my adult life.
- Traveler

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