New Topic Post Reply Printable Version
43 posts in this thread.
Viewing Page :
 1  2 
[ << Previous Thread | Next Thread >> ]

+Lyme
Veteran Member


Date Joined Apr 2009
Total Posts : 1295
   Posted 6/23/2009 7:55 PM (GMT -6)   
When I saw him mentioned on this board and that he had had Lyme disease, I went searching. I did not find a lot (that wasn't heresay).
 
What I did read stated that he was diagnosed w/ Lyme 3 years before diagnosed w/ Parkinson's.  If this is true, then we are, understandably suspect of his Parkinsons.  Unless it is possible that Lyme causes Parkinsons?
 
Questions:  Who knows the probable truth in this?
 
Considering the fact that he probably has the best Drs evaluating and treating him, added to the fact that he knew he had Lyme, why, oh why would this never have been put together for him?  Does anyone know? You would also think that he must have done a lot of research when he first started having symptoms -- is there any reason he did not suspect Lyme vs Parkinsons?
 
does anyone know if he denies having Lyme or considers Lyme to be any part of his current illness?
 
Most important, it would sure help if he attributed his illness to lyme and became a spokesperson, esp regarding misdiagnoses, lack of trained MDs, and difficult treatment!


Lyme in NC in 1971? Suspect TBI: Fully engorged tick followed by high fever and tonsillitis. Follwed by , lumps on neck,  chronic tonsillits w/ constant low grade to recurring high (104) fevers, severe unexplained neck stiffness and acute neck pain.   Followed by tonsillectomy, urinary tract infections, miscarriage, appendicitis while pregant, chronic severe back pain. Followed by depression, mild anxiety, mitral valve prolapse, and hypglycemia.  Was this a TBI??
 
Bit again couple of times, lyme suspect bite Mother's Day 2007. Bite, symptoms, lyme specific antibodies on the most lyme specific band of all = 39 IgG.  Still awaiting appt w/ LLMD.


james from missouri
Regular Member


Date Joined May 2009
Total Posts : 432
   Posted 6/23/2009 9:10 PM (GMT -6)   
my feelings are, if you get lyme you will or could get PD.. i feel like i'm in the beginning stages of PD, with my right thumb twitching and i'm unable to hold up my right foot without it twitching.

he has the best medical team, and we are prolly suspect to PD.. its just easier to say PD than lyme. I bet if he said i have lyme, people wouldn't take him that seriously

Weary1
Regular Member


Date Joined Oct 2006
Total Posts : 127
   Posted 6/23/2009 10:13 PM (GMT -6)   
Have you seen Under Our Skin? Ben the professional baseball player was also told by "the best Dr.'s" that he had Parkinsons. It was a friend I believe that suggested he be tested for Lyme and since he's been on treatment for Lyme, he has gotten significantly better.

The "best Dr.'s" may not be "the best" when it comes to Lyme.
www.chicagolyme.com
 
"Greater things are yet to come and greater things are still to be done in this city" - Chris Tomlin
 


CajunGrl
Veteran Member


Date Joined Mar 2009
Total Posts : 4717
   Posted 6/24/2009 6:57 AM (GMT -6)   
Lyme,

I hear you loud and clear on what you're saying. I've been thinking about him a whole lot since I read the posts. What if he does have Lyme and it is mimicking Parkinsons? How sad that would be that he could be treated and wouldn't know it.
2003 symptoms started;panic attacks,anxiety,heightened senses.
2007 Diagnosed with Lyme. Didn't start treatment.
2008 symptoms came back with a vengence.
2009 Diagnosed with Lyme plus co-infections....Babesia and Bartonella.
Illnesses:-Chronic Lyme Disease,Hashimotos Thyroiditis, Ulcers, Hypoglycemia
Medications:-Biaxin 250mg to start,Mepron,Ultram,Thyro Complex 60mg,Probiotics and supplements


veromia333
Veteran Member


Date Joined Mar 2009
Total Posts : 655
   Posted 6/24/2009 10:13 AM (GMT -6)   
July 30th baby !!!!!
The line is faded not showing where Lyme came in. I became a new Mommy n my Lyme decided to show itself. Swollen elephant like knee and finger and limiting back pain. Bell's palsey, weight loss as if I had no muscle on my bones anymore. And much more text book lyme symptoms. To a Lyme doc, after alot of there is nothing wrong with you and a recommend to counceling,he said V this is Lyme. What kept me pressing on I had Lyme while I was pregnant. I know I was not infected while pregnant. I am watching her with an eagle eye. God Bless everyone. Love Veronica. Were the ones who know about Lyme not the doctors. Isnt that just mad? Backwards. Alice in wonderland.


Deejavu
Veteran Member


Date Joined Aug 2005
Total Posts : 3656
   Posted 6/24/2009 5:25 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi all,
 
Based on the article below, Michael J. Fox admitted to David Letterman he was bit by a tick and was treated for 3 weeks:

The 35 year old actor kept up his hectic daily grind, but he did postpone an appearance on David Letterman's Late Show. When he finally did appear on the CBS talkfest, he revealed to Letterman: "I got a dose of the Lyme.   You feel like crap."

"l got bit by a tick," he confessed. "They're really tiny."

"Then what happens is you get this little red mark. You think it's a rash or you think it's some bad thing, but it's a tick bite."

"Then you are doomed because it's already too late."

Fox, who married to Tracy Pollan and has three kids, 7 year old Sam and 2 year old twins Aquinnah and Schuyler, was put on antibiotics for three weeks -- the standard treatment for Lyme disease -- but docs warn there could be lingering problems.

"Until patients have been medically cleared, they should be careful not to overexert themselves or overexercise."

Tom Skinner form the Centers For Disease control and Prevention in Atlanta, explains that Lyme disease effects each person differently.

"Some people experience brief bouts of what appears to be arthritis," he explains.

"As the disease progresses into later stages, it can lead to nervous system abnormalities, including numbness in different areas of the body, Bell's Palsy (facial paralysis) and in some cases, meningitis."

"In some instances, people can experience irregular heart rythyms, which could be fatal if not treated."

There were 10,000 cases of Lyme reported in the U.S. last year, mostly in the Northeastern and North Central regions.   The early symptoms include fatigue, chills and fever, headache, muscle and joint pain, swollen lymph nodes and a red skin rash, says Skinner.

"Some symptoms of Lyme disease may not appear until weeks, months or years after a tick bite," he adds.

"Some people can expect recurring bouts of the disease, especially if the treatment was unsuccessful, so Michael J. Fox is not out of the woods yet."

Fox, here with wife Tracy Pollan and son Sam, won't take it easy.

Fox admits to Letterman:  "I got a dose of the lyme"

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi/noframes/read/71489

In my opinion (and I'm not a doctor), MJF does NOT have Parkinson's, I think he is using that disease for political reasons.  Just my thoughts.  eyes

Denise


It's all about the Immune System mixed with a large dose of Positive Thinking and Daily Detoxing   ~  Pay It Forward!!
 
This song is about my years with chronic lyme since 1995 and being in remission for over 3 years:
 
 


+Lyme
Veteran Member


Date Joined Apr 2009
Total Posts : 1295
   Posted 6/24/2009 6:08 PM (GMT -6)   
Deeja -- I had read the piece that you posted -- and it was about the most info that I could find that wasn't a rehash of the same piece. I'm pretty shocked that we can't find more -- as open and visable as MJF has been w/ his disease.

By 'political reasons', do you mean, like that he's now a 'spokesperson' for PD? And so now no one will want him to say or learn that he has chronic LD?

I sort of can't believe this is happening! I would have expected to find a lot of stuff on his diagnosis w/ the lyme all mixed in. I would have expected to find 'research' on if his Lyme is mimicking PD, or if Lyme causes PD, or if this was all some sort of off the wall 'coincidence'. I would have expected to find a lot more questions out there than what I found. I guess I'd hoped someone on here would know more... and that's too bad.

If MJF really has a chronic infection that is treatable, and a disease that is reversible (or halted) by treatment, just as CG says -- that is a serious tragedy! SURELY he is not protected from all the info out there?!?

I guess we can hope that perhaps he is trying some sort of lyme 'treatment' and I would understand not going completely public and reversed until he had something concrete, like a clear improvement in his disease. I haven't kept up w/ him and I regret that -- I always liked him.

James from MO (hey, I'm from KS...) I understand your fears. And it sure looks like we have a lot of unanswered questions. Does Lyme cause PD? or does Lyme just mimick PD in SOME people? Or is PD really Lyme? I hope that you feel some confidence that you are at least entering into your diagnosis openminded, and that if you really have Lyme, I hope that you are able to learn that. If that is the case, I feel very confident that if properly treated, you will have obvious improvement.

Weary, I wish I had seen the whole movie -- I've watched the snippets on youtube. Gotta save that 35 bucks for the LLMD who doesn't take insurance...... SURELY SOMEBODY (per V and G's M) will learn SOMETHING from this??!!


Lyme in NC in 1971? Suspect TBI: Fully engorged tick followed by high fever and tonsillitis. Follwed by , lumps on neck,  chronic tonsillits w/ constant low grade to recurring high (104) fevers, severe unexplained neck stiffness and acute neck pain.   Followed by tonsillectomy, urinary tract infections, miscarriage, appendicitis while pregant, chronic severe back pain. Followed by depression, mild anxiety, mitral valve prolapse, and hypglycemia.  Was this a TBI??
 
Bit again couple of times, lyme suspect bite Mother's Day 2007. Bite, symptoms, lyme specific antibodies on the most lyme specific band of all = 39 IgG.  Still awaiting appt w/ LLMD.

Post Edited (+Lyme) : 6/24/2009 6:13:15 PM (GMT-6)


Deejavu
Veteran Member


Date Joined Aug 2005
Total Posts : 3656
   Posted 6/25/2009 5:52 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi +Lyme,
 
I don't think we can find anymore information because there simply isn't any.  All MJF said was he was bit by a tick, had a rash and was treated for 3 weeks, end of story.  I believe he was warned of the effects of chronic lyme but I think he ignored it.  Who really knows what goes on behind the scenes?
 
I read that a tremendous amount of people have written to MJF to explore treatment for chronic lyme but obviously that never happened.  So MJF wants to believe he has Parkinson's which makes no sense to me. 
 
Yes, I find this all very sad when he can be treated for the "real" cause of his problems which I believe is chronic lyme in my opinion after reading about his background.
 
MJF is an interesting person as he admits he "doesn't" take his medicine when making TV appearances, etc. to show people his twitches, jerks, etc. 
 
He wants bills to be passed regarding stem cell, etc.  That's what I meant about using Parkinson's for political reasons. 
 
Do I think it would be better if he did explore the possibly of chronic lyme causing all of his problems and being a spokesperson for Lyme Disease?  Of course I do!   I wish he would join hands with Daryl Hall and become an advocate for lyme.   But that's his choice and his life. 
 
So it is what it is...  We can't change others, we can only change ourselves.   We can only suggest and that's where it begins and ends.    I don't believe lyme causes Parkinson's as I personally do not believe that disease even exists.  Just another made up name for the "underlying" causes of chronic lyme.

It's all about the Immune System mixed with a large dose of Positive Thinking and Daily Detoxing   ~  Pay It Forward!!
 
This song is about my years with chronic lyme since 1995 and being in remission for over 3 years:
 
 


hopingToFindCure
Veteran Member


Date Joined Nov 2008
Total Posts : 759
   Posted 6/25/2009 6:05 AM (GMT -6)   
Anything is possible with Lyme. It causes everything is seems. A few months ago it was causing cancer. So it stands to reason it causes everything else too.

God speed healing everyone --
Bit June 08.


kwahraps
Regular Member


Date Joined Jun 2007
Total Posts : 44
   Posted 6/25/2009 1:06 PM (GMT -6)   

If you do a quick search, you will find that lyme disease (specifically borrelia) plays havoc with hormones and neurotransmitters (dopamine).

Parkinson's is associated with depleted dopamine levels, so the possibility is there.


+Lyme
Veteran Member


Date Joined Apr 2009
Total Posts : 1295
   Posted 6/25/2009 9:02 PM (GMT -6)   
kwahraps, what possibility do you mean? That lyme causes PD or that they are one and the same?
Lyme in NC in 1971? Suspect TBI: Fully engorged tick followed by high fever and tonsillitis. Follwed by , lumps on neck,  chronic tonsillits w/ constant low grade to recurring high (104) fevers, severe unexplained neck stiffness and acute neck pain.   Followed by tonsillectomy, urinary tract infections, miscarriage, appendicitis while pregant, chronic severe back pain. Followed by depression, mild anxiety, mitral valve prolapse, and hypglycemia.  Was this a TBI??
 
Bit again couple of times, lyme suspect bite Mother's Day 2007. Bite, symptoms, lyme specific antibodies on the most lyme specific band of all = 39 IgG.  Still awaiting appt w/ LLMD.


veromia333
Veteran Member


Date Joined Mar 2009
Total Posts : 655
   Posted 6/26/2009 12:46 AM (GMT -6)   
Parkinson's occurs when the dopamine center in the brain is damaged. And Parkinson's occurs when the dopamine chemical release has been slowed by 80%. Dopamine not only contributes to your mood but it makes movements smooth. So a lack of it causes jerky uncontrolled movements. When lyme gets in there the immune system goes after the spirochetes and the gas surrounding the spirochete. so if the spirochete burrows in your dopamine center the immune system still goes after the surrounding gas which is emanating in your own tissues so you attack your self. one scenario. also the gas itself is damaging, the gas is also called neurotoxins. So you have the triple threat of the damage alone of the burrow hole of the spirochete, the damage of its surrounding halo of neurotoxins, and the dynamic of your own autoimmune response because of the bodies inability to tell the difference from your tissues to the spirochete because of the engulfing neurotoxins.
ALS Lou Gehrigs Is the damage of the center that controls signals to your brain to actually control movement period. MS-nerve sheath damage just messing up signals to brain. So damage can occur anywhere because of the way lyme works.


My question of Michael's situation is; If he was diagnosed w Parkinson's 3 years after the lyme, did his symptoms of Parkinson's start before the lyme?
The line is faded not showing where Lyme came in. I became a new Mommy n my Lyme decided to show itself. Swollen elephant like knee and finger and limiting back pain. Bell's palsey, weight loss as if I had no muscle on my bones anymore. And much more text book lyme symptoms. To a Lyme doc, after alot of there is nothing wrong with you and a recommend to counceling,he said V this is Lyme. What kept me pressing on I had Lyme while I was pregnant. I know I was not infected while pregnant. I am watching her with an eagle eye. God Bless everyone. Love Veronica. Were the ones who know about Lyme not the doctors. Isnt that just mad? Backwards. Alice in wonderland.

Post Edited (veromia333) : 6/26/2009 12:49:14 AM (GMT-6)


veromia333
Veteran Member


Date Joined Mar 2009
Total Posts : 655
   Posted 6/26/2009 3:28 PM (GMT -6)   
does anyone know
The line is faded not showing where Lyme came in. I became a new Mommy n my Lyme decided to show itself. Swollen elephant like knee and finger and limiting back pain. Bell's palsey, weight loss as if I had no muscle on my bones anymore. And much more text book lyme symptoms. To a Lyme doc, after alot of there is nothing wrong with you and a recommend to counceling,he said V this is Lyme. What kept me pressing on I had Lyme while I was pregnant. I know I was not infected while pregnant. I am watching her with an eagle eye. God Bless everyone. Love Veronica. Were the ones who know about Lyme not the doctors. Isnt that just mad? Backwards. Alice in wonderland.


hopingToFindCure
Veteran Member


Date Joined Nov 2008
Total Posts : 759
   Posted 6/26/2009 7:16 PM (GMT -6)   
seems like he'd have some of the more "classic" lyme symtoms don' t you guys think?

did he have brain fog? knee swelling? etc. etc. etc. along with the parkinsons disease?
Bit June 08.


veromia333
Veteran Member


Date Joined Mar 2009
Total Posts : 655
   Posted 6/26/2009 11:22 PM (GMT -6)   
I gotta ask again
My question of Michael's situation is; If he was diagnosed w Parkinson's 3 years after the lyme, did his symptoms of Parkinson's start before the lyme?
The line is faded not showing where Lyme came in. I became a new Mommy n my Lyme decided to show itself. Swollen elephant like knee and finger and limiting back pain. Bell's palsey, weight loss as if I had no muscle on my bones anymore. And much more text book lyme symptoms. To a Lyme doc, after alot of there is nothing wrong with you and a recommend to counceling,he said V this is Lyme. What kept me pressing on I had Lyme while I was pregnant. I know I was not infected while pregnant. I am watching her with an eagle eye. God Bless everyone. Love Veronica. Were the ones who know about Lyme not the doctors. Isnt that just mad? Backwards. Alice in wonderland.


+Lyme
Veteran Member


Date Joined Apr 2009
Total Posts : 1295
   Posted 6/27/2009 10:27 AM (GMT -6)   
Veromia, none of us know the answer to that. That is what is frustrating -- all we have been able to find is that he stated he had lyme disease appx 3 yrs before being diagnosed w/ Parkinsons. And he made the statement very lightly, altho it was a factual statement. He was kind of joking about it.

When I have time, I will try more searching, but I don't know that there's anything more available to us. Other boards may discuss it, but I think we know that might not necessarily be reputable info. I always look for pieces that at least seem to be reputable (like I found his quote in many pieces), or that have links I can follow up.

someone above said that people have written to him about lyme. I do not know if there have been any results from that.
Lyme in NC in 1971? Suspect TBI: Fully engorged tick followed by high fever and tonsillitis. Follwed by , lumps on neck,  chronic tonsillits w/ constant low grade to recurring high (104) fevers, severe unexplained neck stiffness and acute neck pain.   Followed by tonsillectomy, urinary tract infections, miscarriage, appendicitis while pregant, chronic severe back pain. Followed by depression, mild anxiety, mitral valve prolapse, and hypglycemia.  Was this a TBI??
 
Bit again couple of times, lyme suspect bite Mother's Day 2007. Bite, symptoms, lyme specific antibodies on the most lyme specific band of all = 39 IgG.  Still awaiting appt w/ LLMD.


veromia333
Veteran Member


Date Joined Mar 2009
Total Posts : 655
   Posted 6/27/2009 10:47 PM (GMT -6)   
I read his twitching finger symptom first started on the set of a 1990 movie then it says he was diagnosed with P in 1991.
So if it was three years prior to 1991 he got Lyme. He had to have got a bad case to have given him parkinson's that quick.
It means that he had to have really been hurting his immune system so bad to put it in a posistion for lyme to progress that rapidly. they did say that he did not rest to heal.. The scenario for this to happen is there with what was said about the grueling schedule at the time.
The line is faded not showing where Lyme came in. I became a new Mommy n my Lyme decided to show itself. Swollen elephant like knee and finger and limiting back pain. Bell's palsey, weight loss as if I had no muscle on my bones anymore. And much more text book lyme symptoms. To a Lyme doc, after alot of there is nothing wrong with you and a recommend to counceling,he said V this is Lyme. What kept me pressing on I had Lyme while I was pregnant. I know I was not infected while pregnant. I am watching her with an eagle eye. God Bless everyone. Love Veronica. Were the ones who know about Lyme not the doctors. Isnt that just mad? Backwards. Alice in wonderland.


+Lyme
Veteran Member


Date Joined Apr 2009
Total Posts : 1295
   Posted 6/28/2009 9:23 AM (GMT -6)   
I am left wondering about his lyme. Can't find anything about how he was diagnosed, whether he had a known bite (he said he had a bite, but I don't know if this was based on a known tick or stated because he knew he had lyme?), a rash, or what. Talking to my kids about it, one suggested maybe he was misdiagnosed w/ Lyme earlier, when it was really PD. We just don't know anything about his diagnosed (or un-) lyme disease. Or how it progressed or what. There is just too much unknown, unless someone has any kind of accurate medical history on him.

It just really shocked me to hear that he had had lyme, and then now PD. Too many unanswered questions. Unfortunate, because if they all could be answered, we could have learned a lot -- as well as the medical profession!
Lyme in NC in 1971? Suspect TBI: Fully engorged tick followed by high fever and tonsillitis. Follwed by , lumps on neck,  chronic tonsillits w/ constant low grade to recurring high (104) fevers, severe unexplained neck stiffness and acute neck pain.   Followed by tonsillectomy, urinary tract infections, miscarriage, appendicitis while pregant, chronic severe back pain. Followed by depression, mild anxiety, mitral valve prolapse, and hypglycemia.  Was this a TBI??
 
Bit again couple of times, lyme suspect bite Mother's Day 2007. Bite, symptoms, lyme specific antibodies on the most lyme specific band of all = 39 IgG.  Still awaiting appt w/ LLMD.


yaniv_naced
Regular Member


Date Joined Sep 2007
Total Posts : 134
   Posted 6/29/2009 10:26 AM (GMT -6)   
Some people want to believe they have anything but Lyme.
People over on the MS board usually get angry at the mention of Lyme.

Strengthenme
Regular Member


Date Joined Mar 2007
Total Posts : 78
   Posted 6/29/2009 4:05 PM (GMT -6)   
Hello all, I was told I have PD, but it turns out I have Lyme. There were some symptoms I was having that didn't add up. I got a test done through IGX and now seeing a LLMD. Been in treatment for 5 months. I've seen some improvement, I have a long way to go though. I also know of a lady that I chat with, she was also told she had PD, come to find out she has Lyme as well. Her LLMD told her it would take up 5 years for her to get better. I'm also looking at years.

Deejavu
Veteran Member


Date Joined Aug 2005
Total Posts : 3656
   Posted 6/29/2009 5:05 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Strengthenme,
 
Nice to meet you and glad to hear that you do not have PD as lyme is treatable.   I had lyme since 1995 and have been in remission for almost 4 years now.  It took me less than 1 year to get better (I chose to use alternative medicine as that is what worked for me).
 
As far as Michael J. Fox is concerned, my curious mind did some more researching and all I found out is this:
 
MJF was born in Alberta, Canada and his family moved all around Canada because of his father's career (a police officer and member of the Canadian Forces).
 
MJF dropped out of 12th grade but no explanation was given. 
 
When he was 15 he co-starred in a Canadian TV series called "Leo and Me".   At 18 he moved to Los Angeles to pursue his acting career. 
 
Fox started displaying symptoms of early-onset PD in 1990 while shooting the movie Doc Hollywood, though he wasn't properly diagnosed until the next year.  In 1998, he decided to go public with his condition.
 
BUT the most interesting part is that MJF was bit by a tick and admitted he had lyme in 1997!   For some strange reason, I think he was exposed to lyme disease much earlier but it was never said or proven.
 
He refused to take doctor's advice and slow down and rest.  He only took antibiotics for 3 weeks and then he ignored everything except his acting career.   I read this on the internet:

"On the cover of the National Examiner's (yes the tabloid) May 27, 1997 edition which is currently out, the "Bug Bite Threatens Michael J. Fox Career" banner is flying just above "Oprah's Battle With Baldness."  open to page 35.   Star refuses to take doctors advice to slow down...
MICHAEL J. FOX CAREER THREATENED BY BIZARRE DISEASE. "

To conclude, I believe Fox does NOT have Parkinsons but really has all the symptoms of chronic lyme.    Just my opinion.   If Fox really knows this, he is not talking as that would cause some stir as he is an advocate for Parkinson's, right?

Denise


It's all about the Immune System mixed with a large dose of Positive Thinking and Daily Detoxing   ~  Pay It Forward!!
 
This song is about my years with chronic lyme since 1995 and being in remission for over 3 years:
 
 


JELAINEP
Veteran Member


Date Joined Sep 2007
Total Posts : 2017
   Posted 6/29/2009 5:12 PM (GMT -6)   
For what it's worth - and I apologize if I'm repeating info - He once said in an early interview that by the time his little pinking finger started twitching, the damage to his brain had already started.
Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has.  - Margaret Meade
06/00- I begin to fall apart, 08/01-LD +, 10/01- Igenex and CDC LD positive, 10/02-LD +, 11/03-LD +, 10/07-Bartonella +, CD57=3, koseri IgA +, Morganella +, motgani +,Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever +, Typhus +, Klebsiella pneumonia +, Proteus miabilis +, Citrobacter i IgA +, Hafnia alvai IgA +, NKC4 +, Interleukin 4 (IL4) +, IL8, Immunobillin (IM01) +. 
Rx's 06/15/09: Wellbutrin 300, Paxil 60, Xanax 5, Acidophilus, Lyrica 600, Levaquin 500, Diflucan, Invanz IV, possibly Gammaglobulin, Flagyl, HBOT  
"How much more can I take?", songhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gHiR1xeOSs


Deejavu
Veteran Member


Date Joined Aug 2005
Total Posts : 3656
   Posted 6/29/2009 5:18 PM (GMT -6)   
I don't know.. I guess the only way I would know is if I could jump inside MJF's body for a few minutes!  Wait, that didn't sound good, did it?
 
Repeating yourself? I am always repeating myself!!   tongue
 
Denise
It's all about the Immune System mixed with a large dose of Positive Thinking and Daily Detoxing   ~  Pay It Forward!!
 
This song is about my years with chronic lyme since 1995 and being in remission for over 3 years:
 
 


Martha's Vineyard
Veteran Member


Date Joined Jul 2008
Total Posts : 1119
   Posted 6/30/2009 4:21 PM (GMT -6)   
The poor gal on Under our skin looked to have Park too....but she was cured.
The medical world that we live in wants to label everthing very quickly. Diet and vitamins never come up...just take a pill.
Lyme hit my brain and heart the worst. But in reality it was not damaged at all. It all was washed off once my immune system got a major boost.
If I do not take care...and follow all of the advice and perfect diet...and get rid of the stress...etc, then symptoms seem to be on the horizon.
All of the auto immube diseases start to fall like dominos once your immune system is attacked by these bacteria in our world.
If he lived in Canada...were lyme is really bad, I am sure that he got it many times...and therefore finally took him down, the the fancy Dr.s who all have to label him very quickly came up with Park.
My fancy Dr.s told me that I had mono....haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
2004 in Martha's Vineyard me and my two daughters then 11 mos and 6 all got Lyme Disease. This was only known to us because we found the tiny ticks on us and we got very ill. My dog also got lyme and he went lame.
We have fought it for 4 years to no avail.
We all got it again this summer is Texas.
I am now in treatment in Scottsdale Arizona at Envita.

"The eyes cannot see for for what the mind does not know."


Martha's Vineyard
Veteran Member


Date Joined Jul 2008
Total Posts : 1119
   Posted 6/30/2009 4:23 PM (GMT -6)   
Which came first....the chicken or the egg?
The lyme.
It is the bacteria that causes all of these problems.
I am reading a book about auto immube disease's, and it is like reading a whole book on the symptoms of lyme. We get them all.
2004 in Martha's Vineyard me and my two daughters then 11 mos and 6 all got Lyme Disease. This was only known to us because we found the tiny ticks on us and we got very ill. My dog also got lyme and he went lame.
We have fought it for 4 years to no avail.
We all got it again this summer is Texas.
I am now in treatment in Scottsdale Arizona at Envita.

"The eyes cannot see for for what the mind does not know."

New Topic Post Reply Printable Version
43 posts in this thread.
Viewing Page :
 1  2 
Forum Information
Currently it is Wednesday, April 23, 2014 1:31 PM (GMT -6)
There are a total of 2,109,062 posts in 234,399 threads.
View Active Threads


Who's Online
This forum has 149098 registered members. Please welcome our newest member, kimelam.
529 Guest(s), 33 Registered Member(s) are currently online.  Details
Summersun, clocknut, PeterDisAbelard., hateuc, mysweetpanda, Jhuno, TotesMagotes, crohnielass, Chicago Dave, mommy to 2, summer16, opugirl, themiz, ByeByeUC, Bythegraceofgod, Diss_UC, steffiecakes, kimelam, Brianala, joogle, jden18, SMfromCA, caycro, Joeyphoenix, Dr-A, Maine76, Poppie, Chip62, jdiane, nighting gale, BillyBob1983, jkn913, Sunny13


Follow HealingWell.com on Facebook  Follow HealingWell.com on Twitter  Follow HealingWell.com on Pinterest  Follow HealingWell.com on YouTube
Advertisement
Advertisement

©1996-2014 HealingWell.com LLC  All rights reserved.

Advertise | Privacy Policy & Disclaimer