ok, i'm freaked out.. cbc white blood cell count a month ago was 4 and now is 3.2

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james from missouri
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   Posted 6/25/2009 3:59 PM (GMT -6)   
something is seriously wrong

ktp812
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   Posted 6/25/2009 4:31 PM (GMT -6)   
My wbc bounces around all the time. I can have a 5.2 one month and then a 3.0 the next. I was having mine tested every couple weeks and it was all over the place. My doctor starts to get concerned when it gets below 3 which it actually has 4 or 5 times.

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   Posted 6/25/2009 6:22 PM (GMT -6)   
Some antibiotics can cause a drop in the WBC count. Be sure your LLMD knows about this.
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james from missouri
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   Posted 6/25/2009 6:40 PM (GMT -6)   
i'm on doxy, and have been for over 2 weeks, i mean, i've been super stressed out. chronic stress that has lasted over a month, i just fear of cancer or aids i guess.. something is killing me and i can't figure it out.. i just need to get the hiv test done. and figure out if not if i have a cancer also.. i've never been below a 5 before.

i mean, can chronic stress kill your immune system? i have no idea. everything else on the cbc is pretty normal

james from missouri
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   Posted 6/25/2009 6:44 PM (GMT -6)   
Gracies mom

my doc said a 3.2 was a little low, and i need to watch it, he said i wasn't dying, but i feel like i am now. after seeing my cbc from a month ago being a 4 and that is when i got sick.

the test results for lyme was neg and ehrlichia/ehrlichiosis was neg. maybe i'm dealing with another monster besides a tick?

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   Posted 6/25/2009 6:54 PM (GMT -6)   
One month of chronic stress won't kill your immune system. A low WBC count does not mean you have Aids or Cancer. It is more likely that the doxycycline is decreasing your neutrophil count (this is a known side-effect of doxycylcine and many other antibiotics), which will drop your total WBC count. It is not a concern unless it goes below 2.0, so relax, and make sure your doctor knows your WBC count is decreased. I've had a low WBC count for years (fluctuates between 2 & 4), but it hasn't done anything serious to me yet...I'm still alive and kickin' LOL.
-Razzle
Chronic Lyme Disease, Gluten & Sulfite Sensitivity, Many Food/Inhalant/Medication/Chemical Allergies & Intolerances, Asthma, Gut issues (dysmotility, non-specific inflammation), UCTD ("Secondary Lupus-Like Syndrome"), Osteoporosis, Pancytopenia, chronic malabsorption/malnutrition, etc.; G-Tube; Currently TPN-dependent.
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james from missouri
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   Posted 6/25/2009 7:03 PM (GMT -6)   
razzle..

i love all you guys here..

with that being said, i'm going to put my mind at ease though and do the test..

i might as well open up here since people love my threads.. LOL>. prolly not..

i have major health anxiety, when i say major i mean major!!! i have a history of skin cancer, i've had about 10 moles removed from me in the last 5 years, recently a couple of them had started to bleed, i had them removed on wed, i won't know anything until tomorrow or monday..

I had the EM rash on my foot a month ago which freaked me out, the pain was already here though. so i thought what else to go wrong?

then the more and more i thought about it, i had sex with a girl 4 years ago almost to the month unprotected and had no idea about her heatlh status...

i've developed a chronic cough that will not go away until i lay down. which makes me wonder. then seeing my CBC results i get nervous of antibodies killing me system.. which makes me think of the worse.. i don't eat good, or eat at all.. its hard from me to stay focused, my back hurts everyday.

the WBC test just proves to me in my mind i'm dying very fast..

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   Posted 6/25/2009 7:23 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi, I am beginning to monitor my moles also i already am having two biopsied one is black and the other is a beauty mark on my face which i love that has been bleeding at times and is painful. i will be so upset if it must be removed. just simpathizing with that part of your thread.
The line is faded not showing where Lyme came in. I became a new Mommy n my Lyme decided to show itself. Swollen elephant like knee and finger and limiting back pain. Bell's palsey, weight loss as if I had no muscle on my bones anymore. And much more text book lyme symptoms. To a Lyme doc, after alot of there is nothing wrong with you and a recommend to counceling,he said V this is Lyme. What kept me pressing on I had Lyme while I was pregnant. I know I was not infected while pregnant. I am watching her with an eagle eye. God Bless everyone. Love Veronica. Were the ones who know about Lyme not the doctors. Isnt that just mad? Backwards. Alice in wonderland.


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   Posted 6/25/2009 7:23 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi, I am beginning to monitor my moles also i already am having two biopsied one is black and the other is a beauty mark on my face which i love that has been bleeding at times and is painful. i will be so upset if it must be removed. just simpathizing with that part of your thread.
The line is faded not showing where Lyme came in. I became a new Mommy n my Lyme decided to show itself. Swollen elephant like knee and finger and limiting back pain. Bell's palsey, weight loss as if I had no muscle on my bones anymore. And much more text book lyme symptoms. To a Lyme doc, after alot of there is nothing wrong with you and a recommend to counceling,he said V this is Lyme. What kept me pressing on I had Lyme while I was pregnant. I know I was not infected while pregnant. I am watching her with an eagle eye. God Bless everyone. Love Veronica. Were the ones who know about Lyme not the doctors. Isnt that just mad? Backwards. Alice in wonderland.


james from missouri
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   Posted 6/25/2009 7:28 PM (GMT -6)   
jeez!!! i just turned the t.v. on and everyone is dying!!!!


OMG!! i'm in a battle..

james from missouri
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   Posted 6/25/2009 7:31 PM (GMT -6)   
veromia333.

my moles are very serious. i' have at least 100+ moles on me, alot are tiny, but alot are irregular. and some are bleeding.. which freaked me out, and made an appointment asap, the next day! removed them and hope for the best.. But during the battle of lyme and skin cancer, hiv possible. everything else.. this has built up so much i'm probably killing myself..

james from missouri
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   Posted 6/25/2009 7:54 PM (GMT -6)   
looking at my test papers, it says test was done is :eia w/rflx wb:

what does that mean, if it came back neg, could i still have hiv? i'm confused.. i know with the hiv test is sepearte and usually you have to sign papers..

is this the same test as the ELISA test.. it doesn't say that on the paper. it just says "EIA W/RFLX WB"

CajunGrl
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   Posted 6/25/2009 8:05 PM (GMT -6)   
If I'm not mistaken, that is the antibody test they did. It was a Western Blot test.
2003 symptoms started;panic attacks,anxiety,heightened senses.
2007 Diagnosed with Lyme. Didn't start treatment.
2008 symptoms came back with a vengence.
2009 Diagnosed with Lyme plus co-infections....Babesia and Bartonella.
Illnesses:-Chronic Lyme Disease,Hashimotos Thyroiditis, Ulcers, Hypoglycemia
Medications:-Biaxin 250mg to start,Mepron,Ultram,Thyro Complex 60mg,Probiotics and supplements


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   Posted 6/25/2009 8:05 PM (GMT -6)   
James,

Yes, it is good to get tested for STD's, but also keep in mind that your WBC count did not drop below 4 until after you started taking antibiotics for Lyme (which suggests it is a side-effect of the antibiotic and/or a die-off or herx reaction to killing the spirochetes that cause Lyme Disease), and the EM rash is a hallmark symptom of Lyme and no other condition that I know of has this as a symptom.

As for the health anxiety, there are things you can do to help yourself with this. I think it would be good to consider working with a counselor who can teach you some anxiety reduction exercises - this will help you with stress reduction and with your recovery from Lyme. A book I used to help with anxiety myself was "The Feeling Good Handbook" by David D. Burns. Another idea is to check out the anxiety forum here at HealingWell, too. And remember, anxiety is a symptom of Lyme and some other co-infections, so treatment of the Lyme/coinfections will probably help too.

Your body needs nutrition and calories to heal, so if food is hard to stomach, maybe a liquid meal replacement mix would help? I used Ensure for a few years to help supplement my diet since I have so many food allergies/intolerances. Others like Carnation Instant Breakfast, Boost, even Slim Fast can be a good supplement.

I hope this is helpful - take care,
-Razzle
Chronic Lyme Disease, Gluten & Sulfite Sensitivity, Many Food/Inhalant/Medication/Chemical Allergies & Intolerances, Asthma, Gut issues (dysmotility, non-specific inflammation), UCTD ("Secondary Lupus-Like Syndrome"), Osteoporosis, Pancytopenia, chronic malabsorption/malnutrition, etc.; G-Tube; Currently TPN-dependent.
Meds:  Zofran, Pulmicort, IV Ceftazidime, Heparin (to flush PICC line), Claritin, Colloidal Silver (used topically), probiotics, homeopathy.


james from missouri
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   Posted 6/25/2009 8:23 PM (GMT -6)   
^^thank you to all..

i don't really have any real support, i'm in a deep deep dark hole. my mom, brother and most of my friends are tired of me acting sick in their mind.. I believe in my mind they think i'm just stressed out and need zolof.

it really hit home seeing my WBC drop from 4 to a 3.2 in a month.. this is my level of concern..

i feel like in a month my WBC will be at 2

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   Posted 6/25/2009 8:47 PM (GMT -6)   
James, you must stop constantly telling yourself that you are going to die, as well as projecting lab readings that have not yet been done. I know it's difficult, esp the issues you are dealing with. Plus, I know the kind of anxiety and hopeless type feelings this disease causes -- and they're physical, not all mental.

You must find a way to tell yourself that you are doing all the appropriate things and will come to an answer/diagnosis soon. You must also tell yourself that once you receive a diagnosis that you believe in that you will respond very well to treatment and be back in the saddle again soon!
 
And you must tell yourself these things, even if you do not believe them. Just say them.


Lyme in NC in 1971? Suspect TBI: Fully engorged tick followed by high fever and tonsillitis. Follwed by , lumps on neck,  chronic tonsillits w/ constant low grade to recurring high (104) fevers, severe unexplained neck stiffness and acute neck pain.   Followed by tonsillectomy, urinary tract infections, miscarriage, appendicitis while pregant, chronic severe back pain. Followed by depression, mild anxiety, mitral valve prolapse, and hypglycemia.  Was this a TBI??
 
Bit again couple of times, lyme suspect bite Mother's Day 2007. Bite, symptoms, lyme specific antibodies on the most lyme specific band of all = 39 IgG.  Still awaiting appt w/ LLMD.

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