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+Lyme
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   Posted 7/1/2009 7:28 PM (GMT -6)   
I'm sorry, I gotta post this and then I will check in on everybody.  I just removed a little MF lone star tick off my belly! He was attached, looked like he was just getting settled in -- left a red mark and an itch, but I am POSTIVE he could not have been there long.
 
I had walked my dogs thru a vacant, undeveloped area where we sometimes go to poop (them, not me....), then I was on the freaking phone w/ my parents and I bet you anything he was attaching himself RIGHT AS I WAS TELLING THEM about MY LLMD VISIT.  Little rat bas'td!!
 
Grabbed my little tick removal tool, which is supposed to be safe, but it wasn't getting him and he was kicking, so I was afraid I'd make him spit in me, so I just yanked him off!  He is now languishing in a ziploc bag. I'd love to know what he is carrying, but I don't see any reason to spend the $$ to have him tested because I know he must have just attached and wouldn't have passed anything on to me. 
 
Still, don't you think the CDC or the health dept ought to be testing some of the ticks we remove, if only to let the public know what all they are carrying?? Can they find out anything when they're dead?
 
OK, now I will go see what's up w/ everybody, or as many as I can....
Lyme in NC in 1971? Suspect TBI: Fully engorged tick followed by high fever and tonsillitis. Follwed by , lumps on neck,  chronic tonsillits w/ constant low grade to recurring high (104) fevers, severe unexplained neck stiffness and acute neck pain.   Followed by tonsillectomy, urinary tract infections, miscarriage, appendicitis while pregant, chronic severe back pain. Followed by depression, mild anxiety, mitral valve prolapse, and hypglycemia.  Was this a TBI??
 
Bit again couple of times, lyme suspect bite Mother's Day 2007. Bite, symptoms, lyme specific antibodies on the most lyme specific band of all = 39 IgG.  Still awaiting appt w/ LLMD.


ticker
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   Posted 7/1/2009 8:12 PM (GMT -6)   

+Lyme, I am sorry you had a tick on you.  First of all,  I am glad only your dogs are pooping in the vacant lot!

For future reference, please do not pull a tick off with your fingers.  This can squeeze the body of the tick causing it to regurgitate into your bloodstream.  Improper removal increases the risk of infection.  Use tweezers by grasping the mouthparts as close to the skin as possible and pulling straight back.  It is good that you saved it. 

Unfortunately, I do not think attachment time is relevant.  I know many people, including myself, who were infected even though the tick was not attached very long and was not engorged.   In my opinion, it is worth the money to get it tested.


CajunGrl
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   Posted 7/1/2009 8:16 PM (GMT -6)   
Ticker,

Haha! That was funny;)

Lyme: Im so very sorry you got bit AGAIN!!! Something needs to be done about those little buggers. They need to spray the grass just like they spray for mosquitoes.
2003: symptoms started;panic attacks,anxiety,heightened senses.
2007: Diagnosed with Lyme. Didn't start treatment. 
2008: symptoms came back with a vengence.
2009: Diagnosed with Lyme plus co-infections....Babesia and Bartonella.
Illnesses:-Chronic Lyme Disease,Hashimotos Thyroiditis, Ulcers, Hypoglycemia
Medications:-Currently on 1000mg Amoxicillian,Ultram,Thyro Complex 60mg,Probiotics and supplements
**You never know how STRONG you are....until being STRONG is the ONLY choice you have.**


+Lyme
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   Posted 7/1/2009 8:31 PM (GMT -6)   
YIKES, ticker, do you mean that about the attached time?? It had to have been less than 2 hours, and that includes the picking him up time before he attached.  Do you have any idea if he has to be alive to test him? If dead, any idea how long stuff would show up in him after he dies?
 
Cj, we were walking thru a huge vacant lot that is attached to a wild, natural area, where the deer and coyotes roam.  I know both animals walk thru this area, because I see both's scat.  (and often they themselves) Would not be feasible to spray out there, or the 52 acre, tick infested,  dog park where we hike.  I always wear my Deep Woods Off at the park, so now I won't be so lazy about using it for a simple walk in the area.
Lyme in NC in 1971? Suspect TBI: Fully engorged tick followed by high fever and tonsillitis. Follwed by , lumps on neck,  chronic tonsillits w/ constant low grade to recurring high (104) fevers, severe unexplained neck stiffness and acute neck pain.   Followed by tonsillectomy, urinary tract infections, miscarriage, appendicitis while pregant, chronic severe back pain. Followed by depression, mild anxiety, mitral valve prolapse, and hypglycemia.  Was this a TBI??
 
Bit again couple of times, lyme suspect bite Mother's Day 2007. Bite, symptoms, lyme specific antibodies on the most lyme specific band of all = 39 IgG.  Still awaiting appt w/ LLMD.


CajunGrl
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   Posted 7/1/2009 8:52 PM (GMT -6)   
Lyme,

I just wanted to let you know that I was laughing at Tickers comment about pooping not at anything you posted;)
2003: symptoms started;panic attacks,anxiety,heightened senses.
2007: Diagnosed with Lyme. Didn't start treatment. 
2008: symptoms came back with a vengence.
2009: Diagnosed with Lyme plus co-infections....Babesia and Bartonella.
Illnesses:-Chronic Lyme Disease,Hashimotos Thyroiditis, Ulcers, Hypoglycemia
Medications:-Currently on 1000mg Amoxicillian,Ultram,Thyro Complex 60mg,Probiotics and supplements
**You never know how STRONG you are....until being STRONG is the ONLY choice you have.**


james from missouri
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   Posted 7/1/2009 9:10 PM (GMT -6)   
man, that sucks, but you got it off in time..

i would walk my dog so much in wooded areas and not really even think about lyme.. until now....

+Lyme
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   Posted 7/1/2009 9:16 PM (GMT -6)   
0 I knew that CJ. It was pretty hilarious.
Lyme in NC in 1971? Suspect TBI: Fully engorged tick followed by high fever and tonsillitis. Follwed by , lumps on neck,  chronic tonsillits w/ constant low grade to recurring high (104) fevers, severe unexplained neck stiffness and acute neck pain.   Followed by tonsillectomy, urinary tract infections, miscarriage, appendicitis while pregant, chronic severe back pain. Followed by depression, mild anxiety, mitral valve prolapse, and hypglycemia.  Was this a TBI??
 
Bit again couple of times, lyme suspect bite Mother's Day 2007. Bite, symptoms, lyme specific antibodies on the most lyme specific band of all = 39 IgG.  Still awaiting appt w/ LLMD.


RottenDog
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   Posted 7/1/2009 10:28 PM (GMT -6)   
so sorry +lyme that they got you again!! maybe you can call your local health dept. about testing it. i know here where i live they have someone asigned to lyme disease for this area. i'm sure you do too.

its so sad you cant enjoy your babies without worring if you'll get bit each time you walk them.

and yes a tick can infect you in the first few mins of being bit. this is when he injecks you then it sucks your blood. they are EVIL!!! and we pay the price.

and yes each time i feel well enough to hobble a lil bit i too take my dogs to the park for walks. and when the day comes i have to use a wheelchair then so be it. i will not give up my babies.

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still looking for answers.
 
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ticker
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   Posted 7/2/2009 5:51 AM (GMT -6)   

+Lyme the tick that bit me was attached for three hours at most, and it transmitted five diseases.  I have heard others say this also.  It seems to me that infection could occur as soon as it makes contact with the blood, but I am just speculating.

The tick can be tested if it is dead.  At IgeneX, they grind them up and test the DNA.  I would trust their testing.  I have had ticks tested there.  I don't know if there is a time limit, but you could call them and ask.

 


Lovelabs
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   Posted 7/2/2009 9:01 AM (GMT -6)   
my LLMD said if you have to yank it you need two weeks of doxy. If you just find the rash you need 6 weeks of meds to cover the bacteria's reproductive cycle. The rash can break out even a month later. Better to be safe. But you are in treatment right? So you should be fine.

Lovelabs
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   Posted 7/2/2009 9:01 AM (GMT -6)   
my LLMD said if you have to yank it you need two weeks of doxy. If you just find the rash you need 6 weeks of meds to cover the bacteria's reproductive cycle. The rash can break out even a month later. Better to be safe. But you are in treatment right? So you should be fine.

JELAINEP
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   Posted 7/2/2009 9:05 AM (GMT -6)   
haha - +lyme said "MF" and "rat bas'td"

Now I have to add those to my vocabulary!

But for real - I would go on doxy for at least 2-4 weeks (if you're not already).

Try and stay safe!
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06/00- I begin to fall apart, 08/01-LD +, 10/01- Igenex and CDC LD positive, 10/02-LD +, 11/03-LD +, 10/07-Bartonella +, CD57=3, koseri IgA +, Morganella +, motgani +,Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever +, Typhus +, Klebsiella pneumonia +, Proteus miabilis +, Citrobacter i IgA +, Hafnia alvai IgA +, NKC4 +, Interleukin 4 (IL4) +, IL8, Immunobillin (IM01) +. 
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Martha's Vineyard
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   Posted 7/2/2009 11:08 AM (GMT -6)   
It depends on what book you read, or what lab you send it to.
But I have read that many labs cannot dectect lyme in a tick.
I am afraid that the labs who could would be very high tech. And would not be in the bussiness of testing every tick that they recieved from the public to test.
Since they cannot detect lyme in a person....due to primitive test in use by the CDC, I am sure that they are not making it cost effective to have the tiny bugs checked either.
When I took a tick in from my daughters head....he was a bloody mess and so was she. I couldn't believe the mess.
But the Dr. just looked at me and tossed it in the trash. And then spent the rest of my time with a sick child telling me that he did not think it was lyme.
I made it very clear that I was not interested in his thoughts at that time. But to give me amoxy asap.....
As she got sicker and sicker....they still wanted to argue with me about it.
But in the mean time...I had her on amoxy.
I had to be so darn hard on them about putting her on it right there and then.
A tick only has to be on for about a hour or so. This whole 24 hour thing is not true. But honestly. If a mosquito can give you maleria in one fast bite...then lyme had got to be the same. And since you can also get lyme from a mosquito and he stays on one second....then it comes up fast.
2004 in Martha's Vineyard me and my two daughters then 11 mos and 6 all got Lyme Disease. This was only known to us because we found the tiny ticks on us and we got very ill. My dog also got lyme and he went lame.
We have fought it for 4 years to no avail.
We all got it again this summer is Texas.
I am now in treatment in Scottsdale Arizona at Envita.

"The eyes cannot see for for what the mind does not know."


Dowa
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   Posted 7/2/2009 11:19 AM (GMT -6)   
I was told that Igenex will test the tick. You sent it to them in a plastic ziplock, dont know the price.  D

+Lyme
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   Posted 7/2/2009 9:01 PM (GMT -6)   
Just checking in again, so I have not read the new posts yet. But thought I'd update this latest 'escapade', cause I need to thank those who responded & I have a question. 
 
I am sorry about yanking him off. I could not see his parts well enough to use tweezers on his head and feared I would squeeze the wrong part.  I was struggling w/ my little tick removal tool and he started kicking his legs and the more I struggled, the more I feared he'd poison me, so that was that.
 
Ticker, I am realizing that you are right about the attachment. This little MF could not have been on me very long at all.  I've got teeny tiny little fang marks, and the bite is not red, but very pink and it's itching like crazy.  I'm not saying that means he gave me a disease, but obviously he transferred something to me that caused this itch -- maybe I am allergic to tick saliva or the anesthetic they put in you before they bite.  My last known bite itched like this too.
 
You know, when they say that ticks inject you w/ the anesthetic before they latch on, doesn't that kind of prove they are giving you a little unwanted gift right off the bat, even before they  attach?
 
LLMD called me in a script of Doxy (no, I had not started treatment yet -- he had wanted to see results of all lab work before deciding what to prescribe, but he agreed I should start something now).  I think the nurse said I was to take a dose twice per day for 4 weeks.  When I filled the script, it says 100 mg twice per day for 4 weeks, but there's 60 pills.
 
Reading Dr. Burr's guides, he mentions this dose, but also says higher doses are preferable (or something like that). I think I've seen many of you complain about 100 mgs of Doxy twice per day -- that it's not enough.  So I don't know if he had really intended me to take more than 1 at a time or what.
 
And actually, I hated my first dose, so I'm hoping only 2 per day is correct. No dairy and no calcium 2 hrs before and 2 hrs after? Moi?? I sandwich everything w/ my beloved Rolaids and milk.  So, of course my very horrid heartburn came on and there I was w/o my Rolaids and/or milk.  I wanted to throw it up so bad, but held back so I wouldn't have to take another one.  (I will look at OTC meds tomorrow to see what I might take before the Doxy.)  The stomach upset/heartburn lasted 1 hr 45 min, so at least it passed. This keeps up, tho, and I might have to ask for Amox.
 
Anyway, what do you think about the dosage? I do not go back to Dr again til the end of this month. 
 
Almost forgot to say how sorry I am about Martha's experiences -- with her child.  How horrifying!! Thank goodness you knew what you knew!
 
And I'm very sorry for everyone's experiences here!  Right now, w/ this new bite, I'm more mad than anything, so that's OK.
 


Lyme in NC in 1971? Suspect TBI: Fully engorged tick followed by high fever and tonsillitis. Follwed by , lumps on neck,  chronic tonsillits w/ constant low grade to recurring high (104) fevers, severe unexplained neck stiffness and acute neck pain.   Followed by tonsillectomy, urinary tract infections, miscarriage, appendicitis while pregant, chronic severe back pain. Followed by depression, mild anxiety, mitral valve prolapse, and hypglycemia.  Was this a TBI??
 
Bit again couple of times, lyme suspect bite Mother's Day 2007. Bite, symptoms, lyme specific antibodies on the most lyme specific band of all = 39 IgG.  Still awaiting appt w/ LLMD.

Post Edited (+Lyme) : 7/2/2009 9:04:39 PM (GMT-6)

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