Rocephin = Bye Bye Gallbladder

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Lala429
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   Posted 7/20/2009 12:47 PM (GMT -6)   
I've been on 2g of IV Rocephin since February 25.  The plan is to have me on it for 6 months to a year.  I was fully warned that bilary sludging was common in patients who use Rocephin long-term.  My LLMD did not want to put me on the gallbladder meds (can't remember the name) - said that side effects on Lyme patients can be worse than just having the gallbladder removed.
 
Well, it happened Thursday - I had just eaten a sandwich about 15 minutes prior and BAM.  Horrible adbominal pain.  I was at work.  My boss had to drive me to the ER.  They found the inflammed gallbladder and stones on a CT.  They also found an ulcer but that's more from the stress of losing my dad a month ago.  I get bloodwork done weekly from my infusion nurse and it appears the gallbladder just started getting yucky - liver enzymes were always normal until this week and they were high.
 
So now it's a waiting game.  I can't see my surgeon until 8/4.  It's not considered emergency surgery so now I'm living on a diet that has to be pretty much fat free.  Granted, I could use to lose the weight, but I just lost 8 pounds in 2 weeks when I lost Dad - I had no appetite.
 
Bummer!
 
Lala

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   Posted 7/20/2009 12:49 PM (GMT -6)   
So sorry you had this issue. I am very suprised that your LLMD did not want you on some type of med to help protect the GB during IV.

My husband just had his GB out in April, out of the blue and did very well. It was in and out and 2 weeks later was back to normal.

I hope the same can be said for yours!
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Lala429
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   Posted 7/20/2009 1:46 PM (GMT -6)   
The reason LLMD did not want me on Actigall is because it is normally not effective in gallstones resulting from bilary sludging. Also, it is hard on the liver and that, coupled with Rocephin being hard on the liver, could potentially be dangerous. I kind of knew that this would happen but once the gallbladder is gone, I will not have to worry about bilary sluding anymore, which is a plus!

Thank you for your well wishes and the encouraging story about your husband's successful surgery. :)

Lala

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   Posted 7/20/2009 1:54 PM (GMT -6)   
Sorry you are suffering with this. I had gall bladder issues a few years afte[code]r I had my first bulls-eye. As years went by the painfull episodes kept getting worse. Until finally in 2001 I turned yellow along with lots of pain and was rushed to hospital. I also got pancreatitis so they couldn't operate right away. I ended up in the hospital for a week and had a surgery that lasted 5 hours!

I have had no problems with digestion since. I have had IV last year for 4 months with no problems either. Basically most people have the gall bladder out with no issues and it is done with arthrscopic means with only small incisions. Don't wait to get yellow!
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   Posted 7/20/2009 2:12 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes, my husband only had 3 small incisions that was it. Truly amazing what they can these days...No why can't they figure out how to get rid of Lyme?
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   Posted 7/20/2009 5:56 PM (GMT -6)   
I'd really encourage anyone considering gall bladder surgery to try other methods first. This past Spring my gallbladder was so backed up with stones I experienced constant pain and nausea. After some homeopathy interventions on my part, now it's completely fine. Your gallbladder is important; do everything you can to save it.

I used two general methods to remove the stones from mine, colonics and certain foods consumed in a very specific quantity and order. The coffee colonics allow you to detox your liver via the hepatoenteric pathway. Performed every day for a week you can remove some stones that way. The food consumption protocols nearly all involve apples because of the malic acid content which separates the stones from one another; this allows them to drain through the bile duct into the intestine.

Next post is just a cut and paste of the procedure I used to flush my stones.

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Sulma
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   Posted 7/20/2009 5:58 PM (GMT -6)   
This is a staple of holistic practitioners.It's a non-invasive method of removing toxins and gallstones from the liver and gallbladder.There are several ways to do this. First I'll describe the protocol that I've used.This was taught to me by my great-grandmother,who passed peacefully last year at the age of 103.She still had her gallbladder.

Most people should probably do a colon cleanse first,unless they've been consuming a high-fiber intake regularly.When you flush your liver and gallbladder,you want wide-open plumbing to eliminate through.

This protocol also calls for drinking 1-2 qt of apple juice a day for 5 days.The juice contains malic acid,which helps loosen the adhesions between the stones,breaking them them up,making them smaller and easier to pass.
The first time I did this,I passed a LOT of stones,ranging in size from a grapeseed,to a cherry pit.Throughout the day I'd say at least ¾ cup,if not more!I don't know how big a gall bladder is exactly,but mine had to be full to capacity.I can't tell you how relieved I felt to see that junk on the OUTSIDE.
There is the likelihood of some nausea and discomfort during this process,though it's probably not as bad as having your gallbladder removed.In fact, the more discomfort you experience the more you needed to do this.The first time I did this,I woke up during the night,feeling nauseas,although I didn't throw up,and went back to sleep fairly easily.A friend of mine did throw up,but he was still glad he did it when he saw the results.

Don't be overly concerned with all this talk of nausea and throwing up,as it's not common to throw up.I just want to make you aware of the possibility.In any event,you will feel SOOO much better after you do this.You won't be able to remember when you last had so much energy.

The next few times I did this,my discomfort was very mild,and I didn't pass nearly as many stones.I hadn't done this for about 5 years.I felt there was no need,as I regularly consume lots of fiber and good fats.I drink lots of water and avoid processed foods.

However,I don't believe in just "talking the talk",so I decided it was time for another flush.Plus I wanted to make sure I wasn't leaving anything out.
I drank 2 gallons of apple juice over the course of 5 days.On the afternoon of the 5th day-

4:00 PM - I took 1 tablespoon Epsoms Salt,with water(a common laxative,magnesium also relaxes the smooth muscles of the intestines,making them less likely to spasm(cramp)should you pass any large pieces)

6:00 PM - I had a large fruit salad,with fresh fruit in season,with lots of whipped cream.This is really the best part,so enjoy it.You can use frozen fruit if it's winter.

8:00 PM - Another dose of Epsoms Salt.

10:00 PM It's showtime,folks.This is where it calls for drinking ½ cup olive oil,mixed with ½ cup fresh squeezed lemon juice.Stay with me.Honestly,as 10 o'clock approached,I began to feel just a little dread.I immediately told myself to stop indulging in such nonsense,and I was ok.Now, I cheated a little,and used some organic lemon juice,already squeezed.I had both it,and the olive oil in the fridge,cause I already knew what it tasted like warm.

Okay.I measured it out in a 500ml measuring cup.I debated on whether or not to hold my nose.I think the fact that it was cold,and the cup had a spout,made it easy.I took 3 or 4 gulps,and it was done!I was amazed that it had been so easy.

I went immediately to bed,lying on my right side,with my right knee pulled up towards my chest.This position keeps the gall bladder "open".I fell asleep pretty easily.

Now,if you should throw up after drinking the mixture,don't worry about it and don't try to "make it up".Just continue.You'll be fine.

2:00 AM - I woke up,feeling a little sick.I fell back asleep easily though.

6:00 AM - I woke up,feeling pretty good,but the next step wasn't until 8 o'clock,so I went back to sleep.
8:00 AM - Another dose of Epsoms Salt.Now you wait for a bowel movement.(You don't have long to wait)In my case,about an hour.
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