5 mos. after my treament at Envita

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Martha's Vineyard
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   Posted 7/27/2009 10:01 AM (GMT -6)   
I am surprised and relieved that the treatment worked and that I had not fallen back into my sickness. Had I known more about the treatment and all the blood treatments (oxzy tosh,) well I would have run. For the sight of blood use to make me faint.
But it made me feel wonderful. The perioxde made me smell like a pickle..lol. But I felt so much better in week 3 that I did not care.
Besides I like pickles.
I still do not understand why insurance does not cover this simple and cheap procedure. It is not chemo or radiation!
And unlike the two of those. The patient looks better each day.
I am saddened by the fact that there are people out there that need and want this treatment so badly for themselves and their children. But can not get it because they cannot afford it. And most who have been sick for a while have quit their jobs and are living with family or should be.
It is a bunch of billcrap.
The insurance companies are losing millions to lyme. This treatment works and would get these sick lyme patients out of bed and out to work.
 

Martha's Vineyard
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   Posted 7/27/2009 10:03 AM (GMT -6)   
It is a bunch of Bullcrap...lol
Gosh I cannot even curse well anyone...lol
I need to get back into practice!

minerals
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   Posted 7/27/2009 10:51 AM (GMT -6)   
Martha's I am so happy to read that you are doing do well, and that the treatment worked for you. I also wish there was an afforable alternative to self-paying the LLMD's. Evitia sounds wonderful if yone can get away to get the treatment let alone afford it. Someday and I hope it is in our life-times the insurance that we pay so much for will cover the RIGHT treatment for Lyme and it's buddies.

I hope you and your kids and your dog continue to improve and stay improved.

Blessings
Diagnosed 2003 Lyme, Babesia, Bartonella, Micoplasma,Hashimotos Thyroiditis. Have had since early nineties.

Outstare The Darkness--------The Light Will Come!


Dowa
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   Posted 7/27/2009 11:05 AM (GMT -6)   
Hey MV, I think we all have alot of "billcrap" too. I know I do!   (:

CajunGrl
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   Posted 7/27/2009 11:16 AM (GMT -6)   
Martha's Vineyard,

You crack me up!
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Martha's Vineyard
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   Posted 7/27/2009 1:38 PM (GMT -6)   
I hope that I will be able to help those that cannot afford my treatment...soon.
The thing about Lyme and Babesiosa...for one. Is that they were man made to be resistant to abx. This was done back after World War II.
Babesiosa was made to wipe out entire herds of a states meat industry. And since cattle are feed so many abx in their food, this disease had to be resisdent to abx.
The same thing with lyme.
Lyme knows when abx have entered the body. And they send out alerts to all of the other lyme. And the lyme wrap themselves up in a protective shell. And the abx only travel right by and they end up killing all of the good bacteria in your body.
Lyme and many of the other co-infections were made to be a silent bomb that could be dropped by air to dis able a city. Kill off the animals, they go lame, and the people, they are too sick to function.
Lyme is also used in War against our military abroad.
Anthrx and Lyme both are being studied at a place in San Antonio Texas as war agents. They were awarded 100 million or so to figure out a way to solve it.
Also...how is it that our president...Bush, got lyme disease at his ranch in Texas. And why is it that his treatment for every one else in the USA is different from the care that he got?
He was not given the standard two week of doxy.
May explain why he has so much trouble talking, and remembering things. lol
I have heard that he in fact contacted Dr.s rather secretly to get "his treatment"
Try to find anything on the internet about what he took.
Read lab 257 to back up all of this imformation that I have stated about, and also Cure Unknown.
Lab 257 floored me.
What a huge cover up.
But anyone who keeps asking "why" will get the answers from this book.
All about Plum Island and the gov. run program to make lyme for use in War.

The eyes cannot see for what the mind does not know.

minerals
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   Posted 7/27/2009 2:23 PM (GMT -6)   
Martha's,

AMEN to all you said!
Diagnosed 2003 Lyme, Babesia, Bartonella, Micoplasma,Hashimotos Thyroiditis. Have had since early nineties.

Outstare The Darkness--------The Light Will Come!


veromia333
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   Posted 7/27/2009 6:01 PM (GMT -6)   
I realized the same about bush not being able to speak.
The line is faded not showing where Lyme came in. I became a new Mommy n my Lyme decided to show itself. Swollen elephant like knee and finger and limiting back pain. Bell's palsey, weight loss as if I had no muscle on my bones anymore. And much more text book lyme symptoms. To a Lyme doc, after alot of there is nothing wrong with you and a recommend to counceling,he said V this is Lyme. What kept me pressing on I had Lyme while I was pregnant. I know I was not infected while pregnant. I am watching her with an eagle eye. God Bless everyone. Love Veronica. Were the ones who know about Lyme not the doctors. Isnt that just mad? Backwards. Alice in wonderland.


ttlittlestar
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   Posted 7/27/2009 6:30 PM (GMT -6)   
It is a shame that the treatment that works is beyond the financial means of most. I would love to send my daughter and get her fixed once and for all. She has had Lyme for 10 years as best we can tell. She throws up antibiotics. She throws up the Zhang herbs. And she has kind of resigned herself to never getting better. I soooo wish insurance will someday cover this!

Martha's Vineyard
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   Posted 7/27/2009 9:25 PM (GMT -6)   
Star,
There is another mom whos daugther is the same....her name is...gosh....is it gracies mom?
She knows so much about treating without abx and herbs too.
post asking moms who's kids cannot stomach abx and see who answers you.
My lilly had a hard time the keeping down the amoxy too.
I had no idea of how much she got into her system because it all came up.
How old is she?
How can she handle supplements? Like 4,000 of vit C....and al of the things that I listed. You could start with only taking them at night. After a full day of food.
And drink only water all day and a bunch at night.
I cannot keep stuff down in the am either. And if I take it at night...and right before I go to bed...I try to gfet to sleep before it all comes up.
I am a firm believer that getting you immune system up and running on high octane if you will....
is the cure to having the body be able to fend for itself.
I had never taken vit or supplements before I went to envita.
I notice if I do not take them...I start to be weakened some by really stressful things.
The fact that I am not sick as hell right now with what is going on in my personal life...well it is beyond me.
But...try the vit and the supp. look up my list..and get immune booters as well.
go on line and see if you can get stuff better priced than what I paid.
The internet is so much more competitive because they do not have the big overhead of the stores.
Get her diet really clean. No junk food or processed foods.
The body can defend itself against bacteria. But it has to be strong to do so.
Ask on a post who has the best advice on vit and supp and a place to buy them on line.
And tap on me if you need any help too.
I have lilly, 6 now, on kids stuff. I also try to keep her stress free. Keep her calm and her diet as good as I can. But she loves sweets. So now she likes yogurt drinks and watermelon and cantalope.
Get some sun...without sun screen for vit D, they told me this two at the clinic.
But they really stressed the supp rigth when I started. And I know that this had helped lilly alot.

Martha's Vineyard
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   Posted 7/27/2009 9:26 PM (GMT -6)   
I was sick for 7 years or so. And the baby was born with it and got it several times in a few summers.

Martha's Vineyard
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   Posted 7/27/2009 9:58 PM (GMT -6)   
I don't know. I was there with aome people that came on the forum. And they came looking for me...lol
I met many others there who could not finish a sentence..and could not think of simple words....like closet....oh...where I put my stuff....ah...clothes.
My insurance is very expensive. And they did not do much for any of my kids. And has proven to be useless really.
But when you think about the rest of your life..and think about how much radiation and chemo are...well it is cheap.

They treat much more serious stuff than lyme at the clinic. And compared to what many others that I met there and what they were fighting. Well...lets just say that a bald child with brain cancer hits you really hard.
I was the commedian trying to cheer every one up.
That is how I was able to deal with the others and not walk around with swollen eyes and feeling sorry about myself.
I reached out to others.
I saw things that made me very happy there.
Like a women who had been fighting cancer and had done all the chemo and radiation she could take. And have been given a very short time to live...and to see her wait for her x-rays to come back...
All of us nervous and scared for her...but me...teasing her about who knows what....but had her smiling..
And for her to get the results that her tumours had shrunk a lot...well....
It was wonderful to witness peoples lives being saved.
Not all were so lucky. Some had progress to much and it was sad.
Very sad.
I had a bunch of people who have contacted me from this forum. And they ended up there. Mostly kids with very sick moms. I have not spoken to them again.
But I met them there. They were coming as I was going. So I don't know. I did have a couple of buddies who I saw get better with me.
But again...it is not such an easy path. It is filled with desperate people who are at the end and had given up all hope..and were brought by concerned family members.
I met many moms..who were getting treatment..like me..and who also were very worried about there sick kids...
So it is tough. Really tough. But I aw alot of good come out of that place.
And man I am glad that I found out about the place before I took my life.

minerals
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   Posted 7/28/2009 2:33 PM (GMT -6)   
Martha's you may have posted the answer to this question before but I can't find it.

Can you list the herbals you are taking now to keep Lyme and co-infections at bay?

Or what herbals do you feel helped get you over the hump?

Appreciate your trouble.
Blessings
Diagnosed 2003 Lyme, Babesia, Bartonella, Micoplasma,Hashimotos Thyroiditis. Have had since early nineties.

Outstare The Darkness--------The Light Will Come!


KeepHope
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   Posted 7/29/2009 1:15 AM (GMT -6)   
THanks Marie for keeping on posting and keeping hope alive. I was thinking that regarding the supplements we woudl need to read the
ingredients on the bottles because from my memory they kinda do their own blends and sell them? Right?

Anyway. I am gonig to get there one way or another. I so far have come up with.a way to pay for 1/2.
I will not lie. I am afraid.

Because I feel it is a risk... And everyone is different. I have heard mixed results.

But I am going to take the chance...

KeepHope
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   Posted 7/29/2009 1:18 AM (GMT -6)   
Has anyone else gone that is from here.? I know there were a few who said
they were going and I never head back on how they did..

I would love to go while someone else did I knew and the support would be
great. But I am sure that is not likely.

Let me know if anyone else has gone or is planning on it.

I am here in AZ

KeepHope
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   Posted 7/29/2009 1:21 AM (GMT -6)   
PS As of today I got the quote of 25000 for 6 weeks.

And they said that they have a new updated and more improved
protocol in the past few months they feel good about..

COuld not tell you the exact differences but I think there is more
attention to Biofilm stripping and they changed OZone Blood treament
to UVB. WHich means they zap the blood with UVB instead of oxygen before
they put it back in you.

Marie is right. THose are great treatments. I have had them before but
only 3 days a week and not along with everything else all at once.

Martha's Vineyard
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   Posted 7/29/2009 12:33 PM (GMT -6)   
I was calling it a Ozone treatment...the UVing of the blood and gas. But it is called Oxy tosh...lol my bad.

You will meet people there that will become you friends and it is nice to see others get better.
But the treatment does not have you skipping and running in a week...lol

Plan on feeling like...poop for a while.
It is no cake walk.

The vitamins that they sell, well the ingrediants to not seem to be anything new to me.

I am not on herbal treatment..I know people who swear by them.
But I have not gone there. Why bother?

And when I went to whole foods to look into these herbs that some Dr. uses the whole foods had never even heard of one of them.
So I forgot all about it.
The only herb that I take and give to my daughter is echinea, with her zinc and C.

sickof lyme
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   Posted 7/30/2009 5:52 PM (GMT -6)   
Keephope.
You can e-mail me if you want what info I have collected from others!
sickoflyme
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