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   Posted 8/1/2009 1:29 PM (GMT -6)   
Mine is high, but all I have been able to find are the normal ranges. So I don't know what is just a little high, and what is high enough to warrant alarm.  LLMD did not even notice this on my cd57, he just circled the '60' and said I was within normal, only low and went on my other results.
 
Anyway, both my neutrophils and white blood count are high. WBC= 13.5, normal stated as up to 10.5.  I've noted that neutrophils indicate bacterial infection.
 
Also, I see low white counts associated w/ Babs and I have babs.  Any theories?
Bit 1972: Acute and chronic tonsillitis, UTI, miscarraige, appendicitis, hypoglycemia,  chronic neck pain w/ crushed vertibrae, chronic severe back pain, mitral valve prolapse, depression.
Bit Mother's Day 2007: Lyme, Babesia microti, hypothyroidism, EBV, HHV6, Parvovirus B19,, low adrenals &misc other hormones, depression, anxiety, more of the above.
What don't these nasty bugs cause? 
 


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   Posted 8/1/2009 2:58 PM (GMT -6)   
Mine has been high each and every blood test for 2+years. Just this past June was it finally in the normal range.

My LLMD could not give me a reason for it.

Your WBC has to be really high to cause alarm...mine was higher than yours @ 19,900!

I have often wondered if it means our immune system is really trying to fight an "infection" off.
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   Posted 8/1/2009 4:00 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes, Bitten, high WBC indicates bacterial or viral infection, and/or severe stress, and/or allergic reaction, and/or immune disorder, or some other more serious illnesses. I just wondered how high was of significance -- I can't believe yours was over 19,000!

When I was pregnant in 1975 and had symptoms of appendicitis, it was the WBC that made their decision to operate. Have no idea what those numbers would have been.
Bit 1972: Acute and chronic tonsillitis, UTI, miscarraige, appendicitis, hypoglycemia,  chronic neck pain w/ crushed vertibrae, chronic severe back pain, mitral valve prolapse, depression, resolution?
Bit Mother's Day 2007: Lyme, Babesia microti, hypothyroidism, EBV, HHV6, Parvovirus B19, low adrenals &misc other hormones, depression, anxiety, more of the above.
What don't these nasty bugs cause? 
CD57= 60, so we're in pretty good shape.
 


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   Posted 8/1/2009 4:05 PM (GMT -6)   
I still cannot believe your CD57 is 60 aftter all of those viruses you have/had. You think it's the Vitamin C boosting your immune system?

Btw, my WBC has been high also for about two years. I will have to find my lab work to see how high it was.
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   Posted 8/1/2009 4:33 PM (GMT -6)   
CajunGrl, I don't know, but guess it's possible. I know that I am not near as ill as a lot of you. I smoke, so I'm sure I destroy plenty of vitamins, one reason I take so many. Been taking garlic twice per day for years, also (along w/ other supps). Gonna up both of them MEGA when prepared for my Babs attack.

With my CD57 I felt confident that it indicated chronic lyme causing my problems. Do you think I should be concerned that somethng else is going on instead? Also keep in mind that my infection is only a couple of years old, maybe that is the reason?

(and whatever the TBI may have been in 1972 must have resolved at some point. At least it was not active thru most of the 80's, 90's, thru 2006. I was an exercise fiend thru the 90's, too)
Bit 1972: Acute and chronic tonsillitis, UTI, miscarraige, appendicitis, hypoglycemia,  chronic neck pain w/ crushed vertibrae, chronic severe back pain, mitral valve prolapse, depression, resolution?
Bit Mother's Day 2007: Lyme, Babesia microti, hypothyroidism, EBV, HHV6, Parvovirus B19, low adrenals &misc other hormones, depression, anxiety, more of the above.
What don't these nasty bugs cause? 
CD57= 60, so we're in pretty good shape.
 


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   Posted 8/1/2009 4:48 PM (GMT -6)   
Lyme,

In my opinion, since you do have an active Babs infection, I think you are on the right track. A CD57 of 60 is still low. My LLMD wanted mine in the 100's. It just seems that yours would be lower. Maybe that's a good thing though and that's what's keeping you feeling a little better. I also think Vitamin C has alot to do with bringing it higher too. My CD57 started at 23 and went slightly up after I had used powdered Vitamin C for about 6 months. Garlic is also an immune booster.

Anyway, sorry for babbling. I hope you figure something out soon. Is there another LLMD in your area that you can go to?
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   Posted 8/1/2009 10:41 PM (GMT -6)   
Thank you, CajunGrl. And I am very sorry about how ill you are. I know you are in misery, because I am, too, and you are much more ill than I. I don't know how you keep going!

I am on a long waiting list for another LLMD/PCP. Now that I have more labwork, I'm going to start calling them again next week to try and get myself worked in.
Bit 1972: Acute and chronic tonsillitis, UTI, miscarraige, appendicitis, hypoglycemia,  chronic neck pain w/ crushed vertibrae, chronic severe back pain, mitral valve prolapse, depression, resolution?
Bit Mother's Day 2007: Lyme, Babesia microti, hypothyroidism, EBV, HHV6, Parvovirus B19, low adrenals &misc other hormones, depression, anxiety, more of the above.
What don't these nasty bugs cause? 
CD57= 60, so we're in pretty good shape.
 


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   Posted 8/2/2009 2:38 AM (GMT -6)   
my WBC has been high for 2 yrs that i know of and the Dr told me it was do to my body fighting what they thought was arthritis at the time. but up till 2 weeks ago they didn't know what type arthritis i had. then my PCO stated i had osto. but i think he was just places a name to it at the time to shut me up..lol
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still looking for answers.
 
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   Posted 8/2/2009 8:06 AM (GMT -6)   
Lyme,

What keeps me going is helping all of you. Sometimes I wish I could do more. I feel like I have been put on this earth to help others and I sure hope that this is not the end of my journey. It makes me so sad when I see you, RD and others struggle so much to find answers. I wish this disease was easier to deal with.

I will be keeping all of you in my thoughts and prayer and hope you find some relief soon.
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   Posted 8/2/2009 10:13 AM (GMT -6)   
CajunG, you really are so much help to others.  And I have no doubt that this is definitely not the end of your journey.  I don't remember if you used to (lymebrain!), but you don't have a signature w/ your story.  Maybe you should -- so we can always keep things in mind as we learn more.
 
I have a lot of thoughts on the crime that these diseases are so little understood by the medical profession.  It is an absolute travesty and tragedy that we do not have more accurate and generally accepted tests and treatment for these diseases, as many people as they affect.
 
As we learn more, we learn that there are certain tests more reliable than others, as long as they are sensitive enough and go by modern guidelines.
 
These diseases are really not so mysterious. They are infections w/ bacteria and parasites. Confoundit!  They are only described as 'mysterious' because so many prestigious  Drs and researchers refuse to open their eyes and minds and look at them!  And because there's not enough funding for the Drs and researchers who are trying to study them.
 
It is a crying shame. It's a disgrace to 'modern' American medicine. It is a disgrace that people like RD and so many others suffer needlessly, not only the pains and infirmities of this disease, but the humiliation and neglect on the part of those who are supposed to be medical professionals -- medical professionals who refuse, downright refuse to study a disease that has stricken so many people and from which so many people suffer, suffer, suffer. 
 
And the fact that our friends, families and co-workers get tired of our complaining and talking about this disease, and begin to view us as hypochondriacs and/or psychiatric cases is directly caused by the neglect and crimes named above.
 
Don't you believe for even a second, that if this disease were not so controversial and was instead  well researched by the medical professionals who took a vow to save us, not only would we be receiving the treatments we need, but our friends and families would be more understanding of how we feel and how we suffer.
 
That is the end of my Sunday Sermon.....
 
CG, I've read your posts on days when you've felt deathly ill, yet you still come here. It is awesome that you keep coming, yet it really is disgraceful that you are still suffering as you are and that modern, standard treatments have not been discovered and applied to all who are in need.
 
As for me, this will be my attitude so far:  As far as I can remember, I have always responded well to abx. I'm going in w/ the attitude that my abx will take care of this infection. The babs may require a little more trial.  But my infection is relatively 'new' compared to so many here.
 
The best I hope to do is to be able to help others learn more about these diseases (asking questions!)  and to find any answers on my own that can possibly benefit others.
 
Sincerely, CG, thank you for all that you do.
 
We're all in this together...... 
 
Afterthought: by the time I made it to an LLMD there were some things that felt a little better, and some that were worse.  The recurrent fevers and body aches were coming further and farther between.  The muscle aches and inflammation were improved.  I am wondering if the stuff that seems worse could be due to the viruses I came up with, or maybe the babs:  Worsening fatigue, all cognitive stuff, depression, anxiety in my muscles, and fluxuating worsening back pain.  Maybe I have been fighting the lyme itself, hence a better CD57?
 

 


Bit 1972: Acute and chronic tonsillitis, UTI, miscarraige, appendicitis, hypoglycemia,  chronic neck pain w/ crushed vertibrae, chronic severe back pain, mitral valve prolapse, depression, resolution?
Bit Mother's Day 2007: Lyme, Babesia microti, hypothyroidism, EBV, HHV6, Parvovirus B19, low adrenals &misc other hormones, depression, anxiety, more of the above.
What don't these nasty bugs cause? 
CD57= 60, so we're in pretty good shape.
 

Post Edited (+Lyme) : 8/2/2009 9:39:46 AM (GMT-6)


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   Posted 8/2/2009 10:43 AM (GMT -6)   
Lyme,

That was amazing! Thank you for that! Now you have my eyes all watery, blah! LOL
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