CYMBALTA FOR PAIN AND FATIQUE.

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Martha's Vineyard
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   Posted 8/25/2009 4:54 PM (GMT -6)   
 When I was unable walk some days. And walking and moving hurt. This was a miracle drug for me.
It also helped with fatique.
It is not a cure. But for someone who is not able to function because of pain, this works.
It is also used to treat people with diabetis who are losing arms and legs and who are of course in alot of pain.
I had also tried celebrix be it did nothing for me. And stoke as a side effect was frightening to me.
It is not additive, and I cannot say enough good things about it really.
I don't have lyme anymore and I don't have to take celebrex anymore.
It also kills the appetite and will cause weight loss. If someone is really thin, I would not advise it for them.
And also if someone has a heart problem I would be very careful. I have a prolapse and large doses at one time were not easy for me.
I only took 30 mg in the morning and 30 mg later in the day. It was a stimulant for me. But others can sleep on it.
I advise taking it in the morning and starting very low and seeing how it makes you feel.
 

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   Posted 8/25/2009 4:59 PM (GMT -6)   
I thought that Cymbalta was a med for depression

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   Posted 8/25/2009 6:03 PM (GMT -6)   
It also comes with some very major side effects!
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   Posted 8/25/2009 9:32 PM (GMT -6)   

cymbalta and the new drug savella are SNRI antidepressants but also work in such a way as i believe they block nerve signals for pain while not being narcotic so u dont build tolerance.   they can kill two birds with one stone... fatigue/depression, and pain which we suffer from quite a bit.   yes some people wont be able to tolerate the side effects which is why most start on lower dosages and titrate upwards.   but for the people it does work for, it will totally work and many will not have any side effects at all.   so its trial and error like anything is.   I allways read the drug reviews by users. 

these are interesting drugs to say the least and i think the newest wave of psuedo narcotics(ultram, nucynta) are based on this concept. 

 

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Dysplastic Nevus Syndome - birth
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   Posted 8/25/2009 11:42 PM (GMT -6)   
when i was placed on cymbalta. it made me into a zombee. 30 mins after taking it i would do nothing at all but sit in my recliner, and i sware if the house cought on fire i would just sit there.

so there again not everything will work for everyone.
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   Posted 8/26/2009 6:44 AM (GMT -6)   
I have taken it for quite some time for depression (along with Wellbutrin) and never had any adverse side effects - thank goodness!

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   Posted 8/26/2009 7:20 AM (GMT -6)   
Cymbalta didn't work for me at all... not for depression or pain.

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Martha's Vineyard
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   Posted 8/26/2009 8:36 AM (GMT -6)   
Well put Vin...you soundf like my Dr...the only one that I like..lol
Yeah it is odd how one pill will make one persons heart race and freak out...and another a zombie...
It did make me sweat too.

But it just saved me. Side effects???? I mean really, what didn't I already have...lol. As if, I would notice any more...

My biggest fear was that they would run out. Or that it would be taken off of the market. For them the pain would come back. I was not able to lay in bed and be in the pain. I got up and took care of my kids. Sick a s a dog...but I did it. But towards the end I was unable to work my mircrowave and would was severly cutting my fingers and getting burned....in the kitchen. I am a fantatic cook...but I forgot how to handle a knife.
Some on here are on morphine and those other pain killers...that are very additve and they are not speaking to us now about their drug of choice...
But I know who they are. Poorthings. Now they have a drug habit on top of everything else.
I suggest trying cymbalta and starting it at 30 mg. I have had the ability to have the best Dr.s there are, and after 30 of these bozos's some actually had some good advice...and the cymbalta was the best thing for me to function a little bit better.

Martha's Vineyard
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   Posted 8/26/2009 8:42 AM (GMT -6)   
Rotten Dog...
Most with lyme are already zombies...lol
Like I was. But if it had that effect on you then take it at night.
In 4- 7 days one will see how it truel effects them.
I have started medications that would knock me out at tiny doses, but now do not effect me at all....4 times the amount.
There are no miracle pills that work in 30 minutes. Every Dr. will tell you this.

I made the mistake of taking myself of of cymbalta cold turkey. I was very afraid to stop. Because it was the last indication of weather my lyme pain was gone or not.
My Dr. was not pleased to know this later....But....I did what I wanted to do. I had bad vertigo for 3 days...then that was that.
I am perfectly fine now. And it being the day before my period and being able to walk...and talk....god, I am thankful every day. I also had a 84 year old friend of mine start it and she is happy that she can walk better. She had been on celebrex...and she has a stroke.

CajunGrl
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   Posted 8/26/2009 8:45 AM (GMT -6)   
Martha's Vineyard,

Is there a lower dose of cymbalta to start? I am so sensitive to everything that I always have to start off low. I am currently taking 50mg of Tramadol 3x's a day and it's just not doing enough for me. I do not want to go higher or get on anything stronger. I wonder if I would be able to take cymbalta while weaning off of Tramadol?

I tried Wellbutrin before and it made me feel like my eyes were going to pop out of my head. I think that's what it was anyway. It was an anti-depressant but it was supposed to help with fatigue too.
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hopingToFindCure
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   Posted 8/26/2009 8:50 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for the post. The spine doc really pushed me into taking the prescription but I refused. He said it would also help me not worry so much about all this.

But I've resisted it all. . . If it makes me thin though I will certainly reconsider. about 50% of my issues are exacerbated by 30 plus pounds.

Off to the dentist...my tooth fell out after making the best omelette of my life -- should NOT have added crispy bacon.
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CajunGrl
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   Posted 8/26/2009 8:54 AM (GMT -6)   
Hoping,

I don't mean to laugh but you are so casual about your tooth falling out. The crispy bacon part is what made me giggle.

I do hope you get it fixed and back to normal.

Btw, I'm glad your omelet was at least good!
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Martha's Vineyard
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   Posted 8/26/2009 9:01 AM (GMT -6)   
Cajun girl...
Wellburtin made me faint...I was chewing off my nails. I felt like I was going to lose my mind...like doing speed.
My Dr. kepp telling me there is no way that this small dose is even having any evvect of you....I was like DAMMT.....I am not going to take it. I would get chest pains.
But remember we lymies can get a 3 day hangover from one vodka tonic. And it is the same way with drugs.
Since our central nervous system has been screwed up....it is dangerously effected by drugs.
I would ask your Dr. about a smaller dose than 30 mg. I think that they come in capsules so they can't be broken.
But if you start with 30 for one day...and do not drink coffee or tea or soda...then you will see. It is no where near wellbutrin.
My trick with it...lol....was to drink a coffee when it started to wear off...like at noon when I had to get to school to get my little one.
I was sweating all day with my fever anyways...but if you are running a 101 fever all the time already, it will make you wet. I was taking cold showers just standing there.
But the way I liked to take it was 30 in the morning....like 8 am...and then go back to bed...lol....then take the other 30 mg....around 3 pm, and that is what worked for me.
Of course my Dr.s said that this was no where near the amount that I should take and I shouldn't even bother taking it at all....but whatever...it worked.

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   Posted 8/26/2009 9:09 AM (GMT -6)   
oh god hoping! that is awful..
You need to be very careful with your teeth.
Two of my dogs with lyme had teeth like a 15 year old dog..and they were only 2 and 3. I had them well groomes and only on the best dog food.
One dog, rosey who is now only 4 has had most of her teeth pulled....poor thing...and she has become such a little witch...lol lyme rage...but at least we don't worry about when she attacks my 40 pound french bulldog....lol..she just gums him to death.....he loves it actually...
Do not eat chewy stuff...gummy bears.....hard candy....tough gum, apples, bacon...lol.
Be very careful with your teeth now.
Hey....save the tooth and maybe the tooth fairy will come.....lol...sorry....he is coming to our house once a month now...lol

Yes the cymbalta will make you lose weight. My probelm with it was that I would forget to eat. And have no hunger pains. It made me thristy too.
But I got pissed when people would tell me how great I looked....I was really getting sick of it. I was so darn ill.....and barely there...and so I stated just saying...with my teeth locked...
Oh well....it is Palm Beach after all....it is not how you feel...but how you LOOK.
They just didn't get it.
It is so annoying to be so ill and no one gets it...till they get it.

CajunGrl
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   Posted 8/27/2009 12:39 AM (GMT -6)   
Martha's Vineyard,

I think I will definitely ask the new doctor. If not him, my internist will help me. I think it could also help with the rage and crying spells I experience while on treatment.

I've been on anti-depressants before and I can tell you that I always have to take a low dose. So, I'm sure the low dose you were taking did help you alot. I was only on 10mg of Lexapro when I should have been on 20mg. 10mg was perfect for me. I had to start slow at 5mg though and take that for about 3 weeks until my body got used to it. If I take too much, I feel like I'm going to jump completely out of my skin. I can't take Paxil because of that feeling.
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Martha's Vineyard
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   Posted 8/27/2009 3:43 AM (GMT -6)   
Also ask about lamictal. But a Dr. who specializes in mental health drugs should be doing this for you.
And I don't mean some therapist of psychologist who wantst to test things on you.
If anyone in your family was treated for bi-polar or also alcoholiism, usually self medicators.
Lamical will help you get off the roller coaster of really high...and really low.
Since the lyme attacks the central immube system it makes our emotional state go wacky.
I got so tired of the too highs and too lows.
My Dr. told me that I was not bi-polar. But after what I had read on line...I did not agree with him.
Lamical got me on a steady rate. I did not get so hipper and I did not get mad and I did not get so depressed.
I was calmer.
I was given 25 mg at first and I was like...wow....took a nap and relaxed. It was nice to get off of the expressway of emotion.
He was very surprised that it made me sleep. I was happy to be able to rest. My mind was spinning all of the time yet I could not go to sleep....ever unless taking 10 mg of ambien.
I think that this is all very common for most people with lyme. The anxiety and rapid thoughts and mood swings. For me it stoped all of that.
It has to be taken in 25 intervals and not to be abused or changed and to be slowly like ever two weeks....moved up.
I was told that 300 mg was the normal dosage.
I have been just fine on 100 mg. 50 mg in the morning and 50 12 hours later.
I cannot even immagine taking 300 mg of this. I would never get out of bed.
Even though my lyme is gone. I do not want to get off of this. Why? I feel so calm. I don't drink and I have a stressful life and a valve prolapse in my heart. It only bothers me when I get too excited. So....I am calm cool and colllected. And I can think so clearly and without any panic. I am doing so well...I don't want to change that part of my treamtment.
I use to be given zanax for anxiety. I don't like the hangover and drowsey feeling that it gives me. But I don't take or need it ever anymore.
It also made me yawn too much. But not really focused and calm. Just sleepy.
I think my Dr. is what is called...my spelling...lol...a Pharmapsychologist. He specializes in drugs. He does not spend more than 10 minutes talking about my blues...lol. He wants to know how the drugs are effecting me. I saw him alot more when I was sick....but now only every 3 months. He would like it if I met with him before I changed anything.

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   Posted 8/27/2009 9:57 AM (GMT -6)   
CajunGrl,
Be very careful with the Cymbalta. Do not take it along with the Tramadol. It can throw people into a Seratonin crisis. Ask your Dr. and see what he has to say. The infectious disease Dr. who told me that I had Fibro not Lyme, wrote me a script for Cymbalta. I pitched it. I have pain, but am far from depressed! SSRI's and SSNRIs help some, but not all. And to add, everyone tolerates medications differently. The side effects one person might have, will be much different than another. Just a thought.

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   Posted 8/28/2009 12:53 AM (GMT -6)   
Marta's Vineyard,

Oh, I am definitely not Bi-polar. I have no highs what so ever and I only feel the rage/crying spells while on treatment and when I'm on a Lyme cycle.

Thanks for the info though. I appreciate you taking time out to post that for me.
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CajunGrl
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   Posted 8/28/2009 12:57 AM (GMT -6)   
Stunned,

Thank you for posting! I read up on Cymbalta and it said not to take it with Tramadol but it didn't say anything about serotonin crisis! Wow! That is certainly scary.

I just wish there was something I could take for this pain that didn't make me feel drugged. I don't like that feeling at all. So for now, I guess I will just stay with the Tramadol taking the edge off of my pain.
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Martha's Vineyard
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   Posted 8/28/2009 2:19 PM (GMT -6)   
Cajun..talk to your Dr. about the drugs....ask him or her what you can and cannot take, and what you can and cannot mix.
The girl has fibro, not lyme above...like her Dr. said.
Because I do not know one single person who has lyme and who does not have depression with it.
If one pills can help with both. Then why take two.
Anyways...I am not pushing cymbalta...lol, they do not pay me.
But I can only speak for myself. And since I could not stand up and walk some days...it was the best drug in the world for me. So that I could function and not be in so much pain.
I don't need it any more for pain or the blues. That is all gone now.
It is nice to be off the emotional roller coaster.
One day I got excited about having forgot the mayo on lane two...and was already in lane 8. Going to the grocery store....was so hard to do. And with two kids. Well.....I started sweating and going faint and getting chest pains..and....you get it...I managed to get to me car...and had to sit for a while before driving.
I was not going to let anyhone do a 911 on me again. lol
But it was a great way to see some gorgeous firemen.....

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   Posted 8/28/2009 2:28 PM (GMT -6)   
I assume that I am the "girl" to which you are referring? You should educate yourself further before throwing out medical advice. You are not my physician and have no idea what I do or do not have. There are plenty of people with Lyme, who are not clinically depressed. Maybe not in "your circle." I have Lyme disease, any Fibro symptoms are an offshoot of it. It is great that it was such a wonder drug for you. Not all people will react this way to SSNRI's.

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   Posted 8/28/2009 5:28 PM (GMT -6)   
I will become a MD so that I can be as smart of all of the ones that I have had the pleasure to have dealt with for the last 6 years with me and my two sick kids.
Cajun is a pal of mine....we talk....good day.

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   Posted 8/28/2009 9:23 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey you two! Keep the peace:) Come on now. We all gotta get along. We all get great information from the two of you. I don't want to see anyone get upset and leave;p
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Martha's Vineyard
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   Posted 8/29/2009 1:32 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes mother....:>)
But she pulled my hair first!

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   Posted 8/30/2009 12:02 AM (GMT -6)   
lol, now you sound like my 15 year old.
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