Swine flu shot and Lyme

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   Posted 9/3/2009 10:35 AM (GMT -6)   
I know there was another post about the Swine Flu.  I was wondering if everyone is not getting the shot because of having Lyme? If you did not have Lyme do you think you would get it? 

1bitten2xshy
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   Posted 9/3/2009 11:04 AM (GMT -6)   
Nope, they are rushing this vaccine and really have yet to do the trials. Not for me thanks. How many times have we seen an abx come out on the market and then a year later find it being pulled or some very severe side effects. Heck, look at the Lyme vaccine!
 
But, each person has to do what they feel is best for them and their family.  I know alot of LLMD's are telling their patients to bone up on taking Vit. D3 to help avoid the flu.

On another note, I am not sure if I have the flu or a rotten cold. Uggh. Heading off to the PCP at 2 today....if I can keep my head held up long enough to drive 15 mins one way!

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   Posted 9/3/2009 11:11 AM (GMT -6)   
My LLMD said to get it. You don't want to get the swine flu.

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   Posted 9/3/2009 11:11 AM (GMT -6)   
I'm not touching this vacc w/ a 10 ft pole. As 1bitten says, it has been rushed and we have learned thta FDA approval doe not mean they have completed enough clinical trials. WE will be the trials!

I don't know enough to tell anyone else not to get it, but I am scared of it. But I plan to keep my hands washed (try NOT using the heavy duty antibacterial hand stuff), and I'm staying on C, garlic, Echinwhatever, along w/ other stuff. And I'll get to the Dr at the first sign.
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What don't these nasty bugs cause? 
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   Posted 9/3/2009 11:15 AM (GMT -6)   
Also as stated above, see what even regular Dr.'s are saying about taking Vit. D3. It is very interesting. Many of us are already low in it to begin with.

I have been on it for 3+ months now, and just this week doubled my dose.


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1bitten2xshy
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   Posted 9/3/2009 11:21 AM (GMT -6)   
I think as Lymies we all need to take extra care to keep ourselves well this cold and flu season.

I know I am very careful where I go. Even try to stay out of Wally World when it is busy. Use the hand wipes at the grocery store for the cart handle. Carry hand sanitzer with me to use after ATM pads or gas handle pumps..etc.

Also, my oldest daughter who just moved back home for the 5th time (groan) works at a pharmacy and  she is the one that brought home whatever I now have. She is fine..anyway, I told her from now on she has to wear a face mask if she comes home ill again and try and stay in her room as much as possible. While I know you are contagious lots of times before you show signs, I hope this maybe will keep the sickness down here this year. My husband is a public official and meets with alot of people each week...I too have him using hand sanitzer, wiping down his phone and keyboard at work.

Probably sounds like I have some type of OCD going on here...but an ounce of prevention and a can of Lysol....may help get me thru the rest of the year!


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   Posted 9/3/2009 11:26 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for the reply. I just did not know if I shoul give it to my 10 year old. I dont think I am going to take a chance. I found a artical about it. It made it seem like it was not worth the risk for children.

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   Posted 9/3/2009 11:28 AM (GMT -6)   
I agree with you 1bitten. You don't sound like you have OCD. You're just being cautious because when we get sick, we really get sick. It can be dangerous for us having such a low immune system.

I'm not getting the swine flu shot, but I am getting the regular flu shot. I get it every year and it definitely helps. When I worked for a Chiropractor a few years ago, everyone had the flu but me. I was thankful I had taken that shot.
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   Posted 9/3/2009 11:30 AM (GMT -6)   
I agree that the swine flu shot is way to new to take a chance with it right now.
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tickedoff
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   Posted 9/3/2009 11:34 AM (GMT -6)   
Dr. R in nyc suggested my husband not get the vaccine...i however will most likely be getting it so that i don't bring home anything to him...have always gotten fllu shots in the past and have been fine...

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   Posted 9/3/2009 4:19 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi all,
 
Just my 2 cents or is it higher now?  wink    There is no way I would get any swine flu shot as it will be brand new and who knows what's in it?
 
I read many articles when the Lyme Vaccine Shots came out (Lymerix??) and people actually got lyme from those shots.
 
I also believe that washing your hands constantly, keeping a strong immune system will keep people from getting it.  Don't know about kids in school though since I don't have any kids.  
 
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   Posted 9/3/2009 6:19 PM (GMT -6)   
I agree!! I figure we will deal with it if we have to. I to have looked at some articals and I just cant chance givig it to my son. Not to mention if the swine flu mutates to a different type the shot will not be effective anyway. I guess we will just take more vit c, and d.

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   Posted 9/3/2009 8:41 PM (GMT -6)   
No way will I ever get any flu vaccine. I'm allergic to half the stuff they put in those vaccines anyway (eggs, preservatives, etc.). I use homeopathic Oscillococcinum taken once a week throughout flu season as prevention. I also find taking homeopathic Acute ViroReliever helpful for boosting my immune system - my Naturopath gave this to me and tests before starting treatment vs. after being on it for several months showed big improvements in my usually abysmally low Lymphocyte counts. I also agree Vitamin D3 is important, as is Vit. C. My Mom is a firm believer in garlic as a good preventative also.

Good luck,
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   Posted 9/3/2009 9:11 PM (GMT -6)   
i'm around the swine flu all day, i work in retail, and my staff is 90% college kids, and some are sick with H1N1 so i'm going to end up with it, i hope not, but i' can't escape it.. i think most of us will come into contact with it sometime this year, its totally up to our bodies to fight it or not

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   Posted 9/3/2009 11:56 PM (GMT -6)   
For most people, the Swine flu is no more or less dangerous than the regular seasonal flu, it's just a lot more contagious. The biggest worry is that it will mutate.

I remember the swine flu vaccine when I was a kid. It made people really sick and paralyzed some of them. They had to pull it from the market. I know this is a different vaccine but I can't stop thinking about the previous one. I don't like to be part of an experiment.

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   Posted 9/4/2009 12:13 AM (GMT -6)   
Heard a doctor talking about Swine Flu the other day. He said wash your hands and if you have to cough or sneeze and do not have a tissue don't use your hand use your sleeve. Sounds sensable to me except it's still warm and many wear short or sleeveless shrts. Oh well carry those tissues guys.

I've decided to get the shot because I'm practically over LD just a little fatigue and mild morning tremors left. Sounds great except I was diagnosed last Tuesday with breast cancer. Still stunned over that and what's to come.

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   Posted 9/4/2009 12:14 AM (GMT -6)   
my daughter lives in Tn. and called me tonight told me of a baby there who got sick and died 2 days later from the new N1H1 flu.

in the news here tonight they said there was a different virsion of this flu that is worse then the outbreak a few months ago.

now for the last 3 yrs i have got the reg flu shots and will again this yr, but i will not go with this N1H1 flu shot as its to new. and lord only knows what it can do to us.

lyme has turned me into a homebody now. and i tell all my friends do not come close to me if your sick. point blank. so far this has worked for me for the last 2 yrs now. crossing everything i have it gets working.
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   Posted 9/4/2009 12:17 AM (GMT -6)   
Just read Dagger's post....changed my mind, no SF shot for me.

My husband is on dialysis and he got a shot at the center. So far he seems OK.

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   Posted 9/4/2009 5:05 AM (GMT -6)   
mcjane, so sorry you now have to deal with breast cancer!! I hope everthing goes well.
Dagger, I read an artical that says this vaccine is not the same but is very similar to the last one. NOT GOOD

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   Posted 9/4/2009 5:16 AM (GMT -6)   
McJane...so sorry. Please keep us posted so your "Lyme Family" can help support you.

Dagger one big problem us Lymies have is a weakened immune system. So while a flu shot may not be a "big deal" for most...for us Lymies it takes alot of consideration!

On the bright side, I do not have the flu! I do however have an upper resp. infection. Ugghhh. Still feel like dog poop left out in the sun to dry. Of course it is my luck when I have a 4 day weekend to be ill :(.

My PCP was not in, so I got to see a different one. A young guy who I really liked. He told me NOT to get the swine flu shot for the reasons of not enough trials on it. He did say to get the regular flu shot. I was very suprised to hear this coming from a PCP and it had nothing to do with me having/had Lyme.
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   Posted 9/4/2009 9:29 AM (GMT -6)   
McJane,

My gosh hun!!! I am so sorry about the diagnosis. As 1bitten said, please keep us updated on everything. Also, please stay with us as we can support you or just give you a shoulder to cry on. You have my email. You can email me anytime you'd like.
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CajunGrl
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   Posted 9/4/2009 9:45 AM (GMT -6)   
I've been getting the regular flu shot every year with no problems. Thank God! My immune system was pretty low when I started the shots too. It was only at 23. It really worked for me. Now as far as my husband, he caught the flu when he got the flu shot, lol. Poor thing. It's weird because he's never sick. I guess that just proves how different we all are and how our bodies deal with certain things.
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   Posted 9/4/2009 1:18 PM (GMT -6)   
After what happened this year with the contaminated flu vaccine that could have wiped out a good part of the world's population if the mistake had not been caught, NO WAY am I getting a flu vaccine!!!
www.therightperspective.org/2009/03/06/bird-flu-accidentally-sent-as-vaccine/

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   Posted 9/4/2009 5:41 PM (GMT -6)   
ttlittlestar, thanks for that info!! I had never heard of that! Wow !!

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   Posted 9/4/2009 11:22 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi All,
My mom called me today really concerned for hubby (now disabled) & me with this whole thing. She told me that they are reporting in the Phoenix area that those with low or

impaired immune systems need to have this shot the most. Had her kinda freaked out. I tried to explain to her that I can't take the regular flu shots, as they make me very, very ill. We are

'empty-nesters' now, so don't have those concerns & quite frankly, have very few friends so our only exposure would be when we into town for groceries or to see the doc. So it's the

same ole, same ole for us! Except this did get hubby to start using hand sanitizer more often!!!!

I also don't like to get in on the 1st of the 1st for any meds or vaccines - there are just too many variables to know whether or not something is really that safe or if it still needs 'tweeking'.

Then my daughter -who is currently researching other meds- calls & we start talking about it and she just verified my feelings about it!!

I think I'm just going to go hide in my "hidey hole" !!!!!!
- Traveler
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