How do I detox with a picc line?

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CajunGrl
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   Posted 9/16/2009 7:01 PM (GMT -6)   
I am having a picc line put in in about 5 weeks. I want to continue detoxing because I think it's important, but was told I cannot use my portable sauna because of risks of infection from sweating. Well, I sweat in my tub too when I detox. What am I supposed to do now? I think the foot detoxes work but I am too sick to get out and have that done.

Any suggestions?
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   Posted 9/16/2009 7:32 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi CG,
 
Maybe try the foot detox baths as the feet have so many pores.  You can use epsom salts and hydrogen peroxide in the foot baths too.  Doesn't always have to be the mustard/pepper mixture.
 
Dry skin brushing all over your body except where the picc line will be helps to unclog your pores and get rid of that dry skin that clogs them up.
 
Drinking Green Vibrance is very safe and not only very healthy but it also detoxifies as well as builds up your immune system. 
 
Hmmm, what else?  Drinking lots of water with fresh lemon squeezed in it is good, yeah, flushing out the toxins.. .  Just don't drink too much at night or you will be up all night having to pee! 
 
Hope that helps,
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CajunGrl
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   Posted 9/16/2009 7:38 PM (GMT -6)   
Deejavu,

Thanks! I knew you would answer my post. That foot detox that a friend of mine has really works. I can feel the yuckiness coming out of my feet. She has one with frequency machine attached. Maybe I can get her to come here. If not, I will try the regular foot detox.

Thanks for the tips!
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KeepHope
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   Posted 9/16/2009 7:52 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi .. CG
Dont forget those Enemas : )

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   Posted 9/16/2009 11:00 PM (GMT -6)   
IV Glutathione is good for detoxing, and would be easy to do with a PICC.
-Razzle
Chronic Lyme Disease, Gluten & Sulfite Sensitivity, Many Food/Inhalant/Medication/Chemical Allergies & Intolerances, Asthma, Gut issues (dysmotility, non-specific inflammation), UCTD ("Secondary Lupus-Like Syndrome"), Osteoporosis, chronic Lymphopenia, intermittant pancytopenia, chronic malabsorption/malnutrition, etc.; G-Tube; Currently TPN-dependent.
Meds:  Pulmicort, IV Ceftazidime, Heparin (to flush PICC line), Claritin, Domperidone, Colloidal Silver (used topically), probiotics, homeopathy.


KeepHope
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   Posted 9/16/2009 11:52 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Razzle.
Can you administer that without a script?
What things can you or are safe to consider to administer without a script? Anything?

???

Razzle
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   Posted 9/17/2009 4:47 AM (GMT -6)   
I don't think IV glutathione is available without a prescription. But the precursors are supplements that can be purchased online or in a health food store. I think N-Acetyl-Cystein (NAC) is one of them, Alpha-Lipoic Acid may be another (going from memory here...).

Also there are herbs that help to support the liver, kidneys and bowels that could aid with toxin removal.

Milk Thistle is excellent for the liver. Dandelion root is good for both liver and kidneys. Fresh squeezed lemon juice with a little olive oil (I don't remember the exact recipe -- some use apple cider vinegar instead) is good for flushing toxins out through the gallbladder (via bile) -- if you don't have gallbladder disease/gallstones.

Fiber supplements, such as flaxseed meal, pectin, psyllium husk, etc., can help bind toxins to help eliminate them from the body. Charcoal tablets absorb toxins as well (sometimes given to people who overdose on chemicals or medications). There are also edible clay supplements that do similar things to the charcoal tablets.

Coffee enemas also are good for detox.

Mucilagenous herbs (such as Slippery Elm, Marshmallow Root, Licorice Root, etc.) help protect the mucosal barrier in the gastrointestinal tract, thus reducing leaky gut issues and preventing autointoxication (re-absorption of toxins).

Digestive enzymes can improve digestion and break down toxin accumulations in the gut, making the digestive system more efficient and effective as a means of toxin elimination. Probiotics (Acidophilus, S. Boulardii, soil-based organisms) also help clean up the gut.

Drinking plenty of non-sugary liquids is very, very important as well - especially if using fiber supplements, charcoal, and/or clay supplements to pull toxins out through the bowels.

Dairy and gluten grains (wheat/rye/barley) are known to hang around a long time in the gut (approx. 6 weeks) and longer in the brain (up to a year). In those who have difficulty processing the proteins from dairy and gluten grains, these proteins can block detoxification and cause a lot of other problems. Also, gluten and dairy proteins are known to promote inflammation in the body. Inflammation increases the toxic burden that the body's immune system has to deal with. So some find they need to avoid dairy and gluten grains to achieve the healing they are seeking.

I hope this helps - good luck,
-Razzle
Chronic Lyme Disease, Gluten & Sulfite Sensitivity, Many Food/Inhalant/Medication/Chemical Allergies & Intolerances, Asthma, Gut issues (dysmotility, non-specific inflammation), UCTD ("Secondary Lupus-Like Syndrome"), Osteoporosis, chronic Lymphopenia, intermittant pancytopenia, chronic malabsorption/malnutrition, etc.; G-Tube; Currently TPN-dependent.
Meds:  Pulmicort, IV Ceftazidime, Heparin (to flush PICC line), Claritin, Domperidone, Colloidal Silver (used topically), probiotics, homeopathy.


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   Posted 9/18/2009 8:37 AM (GMT -6)   
I have a picc line and I love the footbaths.  I do them at my chiropractors office.  I was told not to do them within the first 48 hours of taking antibiotics.  There is a patented oral glutathione accelerator (makes your body create its own glutatione- not a glutatione supplement, stomach acids break those down.  This gets intracellular) I use that too and love it.  It has vitamin C, L'glutamine, N-Acetyl Cysteine, Alpha Lipoic Acid, cordyceps, N-Acetyl D-Glucosamine, Quercetin, Milk Thistle Extract (silybum Marianum) 80% Silimarin.  The company offers a full money back guarantee if you try it for 30 days and don't think it helped.  www.liveyourlife.max4u.com .  If you have shellfish allergies you can't take it. 
 
My picc line has gone alot better than I thought it would.  I had been in treatment awhile though too before starting.  Good luck!
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CajunGrl
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   Posted 9/18/2009 5:41 PM (GMT -6)   
Wow, thanks for all of the information!


Weary: Can you get the glutathione accelerator without a prescription? That would be awesome. What time of the day do you administer it and how soon after your antibiotics? Is it just once a day?

Sorry for all of the questions but I am really intersted in this.

Thanks!
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Weary1
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   Posted 9/18/2009 5:56 PM (GMT -6)   
It is not prescription. You can order in online.

It's in packages (3 capsules per package). I take one package in the morning as soon as I wake up and one package in the later afternoon. My LLMD knows I'm using this and is looking into it also for his patients. He currently uses IV's but knows its costly and only stays in the body for a certain amount of time. He likes that this has a clinical study done on it also (it is one of the few supplements that does). You can view the study and the study summary on the website as well. The Dr that created it had many AIDS patients and patients with chronic illnesses. It helps to bring down the inflammation at a cellular level. It has helped me alot! If you go to the website www.liveyourlife.max4u.com, click on products at the top. On the right hand side of the page are links to the studies and articles about Dr. Keller the inventor. If you want to email me I can send you pdf files about it too.
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CajunGrl
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   Posted 9/18/2009 6:05 PM (GMT -6)   
Weary,

Thanks! I thought I would be able to administer it into my picc line. That would be great if I could find something like that. I already have all of those supplements so I'd be wasting money purchasing it.

Thanks again!
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Weary1
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   Posted 9/18/2009 6:12 PM (GMT -6)   
Have you been taking those for awhile? They are the main amnio acids that your body needs to create its OWN glutatione, so keep taking them. They help to detox the liver. Mercola uses the same ingredients but some at higher doses. Check his website cause maybe you need to increase the amount your taking...he gives amounts that HE takes....not sure if that would be what you needed or not but if you already have them its worth looking into. The Max works good for me and is easy so I just go with that.

I have not heard of anything that goes in the picc without a rx and Dr. supervision
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CajunGrl
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   Posted 9/18/2009 6:28 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey again Weary,

I thought I had everything but I am actually missing a few things like Milk Thistle. I will ask my doctor about the infusions. If I can't get that, I may give the supplements a try.
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   Posted 9/18/2009 8:27 PM (GMT -6)   

Hi CajunGrl.  The IV Glutathione is a prescripton.  It is done as an IV push.   You should ask your doctor about whether or not you should do it.  Depending on where you are in treatment, it may or may not be good for you to use it.  From what I understand, the IV is the best and suppositories are second.

Other things that help detox are eating healthy, drinking water with fresh squeezed lemon, and exercising when possible.  There are a lot of supplements that are good also, but you should ask your doctor if it is okay to take them with your protocol.  One is NutraMedix Parsley drops.  If you would like to know where I found the best price for this, let me know.  Another thing I take is Chitosan which binds the toxins.  This needs to be taken at least two hours apart from all meds and supplements.

 

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   Posted 9/19/2009 12:16 PM (GMT -6)   
 i, CajunGirl,     I have a picc line, and I also have a portable far infrared  (FIR) sauna that has arm openings.  I just hang my picc arm out of the hole when using the sauna.    I did ask my LLMD about it, and he said great, use it !
 
I got mine on eBay.  They generally are listed on there for less than $150.00.  (One is on there today, $99.00 plus $18.00 shipping).   Mine is really ugly, it looks like an aluminum foil pup tent.   But it works for me, I guess, coz I sweat like a pig.  They usually come in L and XL size.  I got XL (because I AM XL) and it's not especially huge.  I'd hate to see the L.
 
Oh, the folding chair that came with mine is a CHILD's size chair.....I had to swap that out for a regular adult sized folding chair.
 
The instructions are obviously translated from a non-English original instruction sheet, and are a little hilarious.     confused
 
If you do get one, post back and I'll tell you how to use the control buttons (hard to figure out, the buttons don't necessarily make any sense, there's some mystery that has to be solved before you get the heat and length of time that you want).

CajunGrl
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   Posted 9/19/2009 7:32 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey Cleo,

I have the same portable sauna as you. Remember, we talked about how you melted the inside and had to get another one. Hehe:) I have the openings for the arms but I still sweat really bad. I sweat on my arms too. I think that's why my doctor doesn't want me in there with a picc line.
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CajunGrl
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   Posted 9/19/2009 7:36 PM (GMT -6)   
Ticker,

Thanks for all of the great info. I'm so glad we have such experienced members here. You and Razzle are awesome! I'll email you if I need more info.

Thanks again!
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Razzle
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   Posted 9/19/2009 11:16 PM (GMT -6)   
There is a vegetarian version of glucosamine (the common version comes from shellfish) that is made from corn. Blue Bonnet markets a supplement that is a combination of MSM (anti-inflammatory & supports joint/connective tissue health) and vegetarian glucosamine that my Husband likes to take for his joints -- we buy it at a local health food store. And I'm sure other companies market the vegetarian glucosamine as well.

Take care,
-Razzle
Chronic Lyme Disease, Gluten & Sulfite Sensitivity, Many Food/Inhalant/Medication/Chemical Allergies & Intolerances, Asthma, Gut issues (dysmotility, non-specific inflammation), UCTD ("Secondary Lupus-Like Syndrome"), Osteoporosis, chronic Lymphopenia, intermittant pancytopenia, chronic malabsorption/malnutrition, etc.; G-Tube; Currently TPN-dependent.
Meds:  Pulmicort, IV Ceftazidime, Heparin (to flush PICC line), Claritin, Domperidone, Colloidal Silver (used topically), probiotics, homeopathy.


cleo springs
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   Posted 9/20/2009 8:12 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi, CG, I remember now......you'll have to excuse my faulty memory. I have Lyme disease. Heh, heh, heh! (My husband said that I've "ridden that horse just about far enough"). Tee, hee! Sometimes it's nice to have an excuse...

CajunGrl
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   Posted 9/20/2009 10:01 PM (GMT -6)   
Cleo,

Ha! I hear you! You're right, it is nice to have an excuse, hehehe:)

I don't like having this disease but the excuse sure does come in handy!
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