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blessings723
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   Posted 10/3/2009 7:57 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi everyone, i'm new to the forum and i am very interested in learning about success stories with alternative treatments. I'm sure there must be some of you that are healed and are on here to support those who are not. I am very interested in hearing peoples stories on Dr. Jernigan's treatment (Hansa Clinic in Kansas) and also the Cowden or Zhang protocol or buhner. I also know there is something through Envita? I am interested mostly in Dr. Jernigan's protocol- heard he treats kids too- if anyone has success stories or opinions please share! Thanks so much.  I am considering 1 round of meds but would rather use natural treatment as ive heard some bad side effects can come of some of the meds. and i'm not willing to try that with my babies. THanks for advice!

Traveler
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   Posted 10/3/2009 8:54 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi finding,
Welcome to the board!!! I'm really sorry you have reason to seek out info on Lyme Disease & other tick-borne illnesses, but you've come to a good place!!!
There are many on this board who follow- or have followed - an alternative route & I'm sure you will hear from them as well as those who are using the abx treatments. We are all just trying to find our path to healing, and have a desire to help others learn & understand how serious this disease is. You will find a lot of caring, understanding, helpful people here, as we DO understand what it's like.
Do you have Lyme or another infection? You also mentioned kids, are they infected as well? How long ago do you suspect those who are ill were infected?
Probably the hardest part of any treatment is finding the right one that works for you. This disease is as individual as the person who has it.
There is so very much to learn!! You do need to be your own health advocate, though. You will want to get & keep copies of all tests that you can - it makes it a lot easier to understand as members here ask about them.
Well, my brain is 'locking me out' now -Arrrg!!
I know that you will find so very much help here. Although we all have our own healing path to follow, we never truly walk alone!!
It's been said:LD patients can be as ill as people w/ congest. heart failure & in as much pain as post-op patients.
- Traveler
"Conditions": Lyme Disease, STARI, RMSF, Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, Neuro LD, FM, Chronic/acute EBV, IBS-C, Diverticulosis (& "itis") & now Lyme arthritis (?).


blessings723
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   Posted 10/4/2009 2:15 AM (GMT -6)   
thank you traveler- I don't know exactly how long ive been infected. I do suspect my 2 babies of also having it. I ve been noticably sick for 2 months- i initally thought this was a parasite issue- and i have been doing parasite cleansing but I think it is more than that now. I get bone popping, some numbness /tingling in feet or hands occasionally, chills at least 1 time a day- very weird. I am interested in trying Dr. jernigan's protocol =Kansas Hansa Clinic- but i don't want to just spend a bunch of money without having a good feeling that this might work or at least help. I am trying to plan steps carefully, so far this thing has not gotten ugly yet b/c i am taking steps to help myself where i can. My friend just got through listing all the dang supplements i should take and boy is there alot for my tired brain to handle- i get bad headaches and sometimes i have the short term memory thing- but oh well- such is life, somehow i must stay positive. when i first got sick i thought i was going to die each day- but when i started addressing parasites and changed my diet i began to feel just a tiny bit better. I still have an itchy crawly feeling sometimes and mild joint pain. Are you familar with the Hansa clinic in Wichita Kansas? The guy has a book called beating lyme. There is also that Envita thing- but from past posts here it doesn't seem they treat kids. I am at a toss up as to whether i should see an actual LLMD- i don't want to be pushed into antibiotics -i'm probably no longer an "early case" anyway. I think the drugs can make things worse for some people- kills out good flora/bacteria and also encourages candida problems. This is just what i've heard- i really don't claim to know ANYTHING at this point as this is all so new to me. I just don't want to make a regrettable choice. Thanks so much for making me feel welcome. So far my boy seems to be doing better since i started him on green smoothies- tons of fruit and veggies- takes a multivitamin plus omegas and probiotics for infants. He smiles and plays great- just every once in awhile twitches or holds his legs like they hurt. Has ezcema too. too many toxins. My baby girl is still on milk -shes only 6 months and has been struggling through some constipation and she eats a ton more lately too- Id love to believe they don't have it- but i'd rather be safe than sorry. Anyway they are much to young for harsh antibiotics at this point- i think they might benefit most from building up their little immune systems but i'd love to hear any advice from others with young children. I am thankful i am able to care for my kids still. I will do everything i have to so that i am able to care for them. I guess i should be glad at this point that my legs and arms work! lol. Thanks ahead of time for any advice. :)

CajunGrl
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   Posted 10/4/2009 5:26 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi finding,

Welcome to the forum! Please email me. I have some information for you:)

Click on my name to the left and my email will pop up.
**You never know how STRONG you are....until being STRONG is the ONLY choice you have**

Co-Moderator Lyme Disease Forum


blessings723
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   Posted 10/4/2009 6:38 PM (GMT -6)   
Just sent off an email to you! You are the one who posted denise's (deejavue's) detox info right?? That stuff is GREAT i hope everyone here follows those tips! Yes- please send me anything you have, as you've probably read i am looking for good natural treatments for the kiddos and myself. Thank you TONS.  smilewinkgrin

Traveler
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   Posted 10/4/2009 8:51 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Finding,
Hang in there!! I'm sure many of us here have raised our children while ill - I have. I worry about them still - and am slightly paranoid that they will come down sick as well.

I know you will find a great deal of info here, with plenty of support as well!!!

Not all LLMD's use ONLY abx treatments - if I understand correctly - actually many recognized the need for a combo style treatment.

Keep asking those questions!!!! We really do have to be our own health advocates!!
It's been said:LD patients can be as ill as people w/ congest. heart failure & in as much pain as post-op patients.
- Traveler
"Conditions": Lyme Disease, STARI, RMSF, Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, Neuro LD, FM, Chronic/acute EBV, IBS-C, Diverticulosis (& "itis") & now Lyme arthritis (?).


Deejavu
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   Posted 10/5/2009 4:20 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi finding,
 
Welcome!  Sorry about your situation and your children..  Must be really difficult for all of you.  I never had kids so I couldn't even begin to imagine how difficult it must be..
 
In any case, have you read Dr. Jernigan's book "Beating Lyme Disease?"..  It not, it's a great book filled with lots of information.   I would start with that.  Since his botanicals are all natural, I believe children can take them but to be sure I would first have a telephone consult with Dr. Jernigan and explain your situation to him.  I know he has treated many children with success.
 
His book can be bought at this site:
 
 
You can read about the treatments here:
 
 
Hope that helps,
Denise
It's all about the Immune System mixed with a large dose of Positive Thinking and Daily Detoxing   ~  Pay It Forward!!
 
This song is about my years with chronic lyme since 1995 and being in remission for over 3 years:
 
 


blessings723
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   Posted 10/5/2009 11:15 PM (GMT -6)   
THank you so much traveler and deejavue! Denise, i am the one who emailed you! I was inspired by your success and have thought of trying Dr. Jernigan's protcol too! Did you do it all from the book or did you actually go to his clinic?? I would have private messaged you but i couldn't find where to do that on this forum so i emailed you. I would LOVE to hear your story- i did read a few of your posts- one pulled up when i typed in "hansa clinic" b/c i wanted to see if anyone had actually became well from his program. Do you know any others who have had success with his book or clinic? Please feel free to email me too! Yes- it will be tough with children but i have hope- there is a lady on another forum i visit that became well using natural treatment and she has 3 small children! I love your message about positive thinking- I am trying to retrain my mind in this. :)

Anita

blessings723
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   Posted 10/5/2009 11:26 PM (GMT -6)   
Traveler, you don't know how encouraging that is to me. I spent a little time reading some of your posts and i think people like you and deejavu make this burden so much lighter! You helped me remember that life goes on despite illness. I am often filled with anxiety over my situation but i have heard of others making it and intend to do the same. I WILL overcome this for my kids. And somehow we will be okay. It is overwhelming but I believe there is a reason for everything- even if it makes no sense at this present moment! LOL

Traveler
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   Posted 10/6/2009 10:38 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Finding,
I would HIGHLY recommend that you hold on to that attitude tightly!!!!! ** I WILL overcome - some how, some way!!

A whole bunch of us have somehow made it through some pretty rough & rocky times since being ill - for me, having kids to look after pushed me to hang on. Even now, although my children are adults - it's through their encouragement (& hubby's desire to have me feel better), makes a whole lots of difference for me!! I know we have to want to be better for ourselves- but sometimes that's not enough for me.

Hang in there - read, read, read - & take over control of what & why docs are doing for you!!!
It's been said:LD patients can be as ill as people w/ congest. heart failure & in as much pain as post-op patients.
- Traveler
"Conditions": Lyme Disease, STARI, RMSF, Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, Neuro LD, FM, Chronic/acute EBV, IBS-C, Diverticulosis (& "itis") & now Lyme arthritis (?).


Franziska
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   Posted 10/7/2009 5:49 AM (GMT -6)   
I am on Zhang´s protocol since a few weeks and I am feeling great better.I am taking Allicin ( Garlic), Houttuynie 2 and Circulation P.

www.sinomedresearch.org/support2007C/disc6_toc.htm

Dr.Zhang wrote a book about his protocol. The protocol can heal 60% of the patients and 20% are feeling with the protocol better, but they have to take the plants constantly otherwise they have relapses.
Lyme since Juli 2008

On Dr Zhang´s Protocol

Post Edited (Franziska) : 10/7/2009 5:54:02 AM (GMT-6)

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