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blessings723
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   Posted 10/7/2009 3:28 PM (GMT -7)   
Okay i've had this before a  few weeks ago and it went away but right now i'm getting it again-   heart attack?? nerves?? does anyone get this from time to time?? I guess i was nervous last time of going to ER b/c they don't know a thing about lyme.  Everytime i think i'm about to die- i end up being okay but this is freaky.  my toes are often blue so i take cayenne pepper-  I had a cardiologist look at my heart like 3weeks ago too- echo and ultrasound- would something have changed significantly within that time? Thanks everyone.

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   Posted 10/7/2009 3:36 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi finding,

I know how frustrating this all can be. Having this disease makes us so aware of our body. I think, that if you just had your heart checked three weeks ago and they said that everything was okay, then I think you're okay in that area. But, don't hesitate going to the hospital if you think it's something serious. You know your body better than anyone else.

Where exactly is the lump?
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   Posted 10/7/2009 3:37 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Finding,
I'm really sorry you are going through such a scary time.
I've been very fortunate in that as far as I know - other than a few palps now & again, there is nothing wrong with it.

But as far as the 'lump in your throat' - can you describe that a little better?
It's been said:LD patients can be as ill as people w/ congest. heart failure & in as much pain as post-op patients.
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blessings723
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   Posted 10/7/2009 3:44 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi cajungirl, Lump is in lower throat but it comes and goes- right now its just the pain i feel sort of in the middle of my chest- like a throbbing- not unlike pain i get elsewhere but this is one area that i dread feeling pain in. It had gone away for like a week or so...do lyme people not make enough blood or is it just harder to circulate? I know someone said the toes being blue has to do with trouble oxygenating the blood?? Thanks for your help- this is a tough thing to decide what to do on- we've already spent a lot on ER visits when i first started getting sick and didn't know what the heck was going on. I kept feeling like i was about to pass out- i don't get that anymore really, but today i was feeling pretty fatigued.

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   Posted 10/7/2009 3:49 PM (GMT -7)   
okay, lump is back- i remember when i was in the hospital before and i told them i felt this they checked my thyroid- you know just felt there but it wasn't swelling or anything so they just said it was probably nerves- they did bloodwork too but why the heck is this happening? sometimes it starts in the lower throat but then feels like it's my whole throat that's swollen or has something stuck in it

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   Posted 10/7/2009 3:54 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Finding,
I do agree with CG. If you think something is serious with your heart - go to the emergency room, please!

The reason I asked about the lump in your throat, is because it seems as though a lot of us Lymies have issues with our thyroid. I do. I have hypothyroidism, due to Hashimotos' Thyroiditis. My body can't produce enough thyroid hormone on it's own right now & I just started on Synthryoid about 2 - 3 weeks ago (poor memory due to Lyme, of course).

The lump in the throat feeling could be your thyroid is swollen - a sx I have a lot. I even have trouble getting pills, food down- I have to eat slowly, & when I'm really bad it hurts to swallow even liquids.
It's been said:LD patients can be as ill as people w/ congest. heart failure & in as much pain as post-op patients.
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   Posted 10/7/2009 4:06 PM (GMT -7)   
I agree with Traveler. That's why I asked where the lump was. I too have Hashimotos and used to get a lump and pain in my throat. Sometimes, I could barely turn my neck. I went to 3-4 doctors that never felt the lump. I kept telling them over and over that something was there. I stayed that way for two years until I saw an endocrinologist. He's the first doctor that examined me differently than anyone else and he felt the lump.....finally! He had me do an ultra sound and found nodules on my thyroid.

Anyway, get that checked out. It could be why you were feeling like you had to pass out. Your thyroid controls so many things in your body.
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CajunGrl
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   Posted 10/7/2009 4:08 PM (GMT -7)   
Traveler,

I have trouble swallowing pills too. Even the smallest pills sometimes get stuck. I usually have to swallow a piece of bread to get it down. It's so frustrating!
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   Posted 10/7/2009 4:21 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey CG!
Yeppers!! Me too! Except I've discovered I'm sensitive to wheat. I usually try to find something else.

& how's THAT for being a Lymie!! - I didn't even think to put down anything aobut the thyroid pain!!! GEEEZ!!!

Another thing I should have put in a previous post here, was that my thyroid levels were actually in the 'normal' range - but on the low end. Since starting thyroid meds though, I have felt some improvements. =) =)
It's been said:LD patients can be as ill as people w/ congest. heart failure & in as much pain as post-op patients.
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blessings723
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   Posted 10/7/2009 4:22 PM (GMT -7)   
hmmm yes, i'm starting to think maybe you're both right- the pain seems that i could all be in my throat- this is just so new to me i don't know what to think! yes- i've started noticing when im drinking sometimes i cough a little bit or choke up what i'm drinking- just started a few days ago- really strange. I have noticed on occasion it is harder to swallow pills- i feel like i'm choking- it doesn't happen everytime so i thought it was nerves, but maybe i'm just at the beginning of a thyroid problem. i guess i didn't think about it again b/c when the nurse felt my throat he said it felt fine- as if they can really tell from the outside. nodules on your thyroid? what exactly is a nodule? Thank you both for responding so quickly- it means a lot.

blessings723
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   Posted 10/7/2009 4:33 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks traveler, they thought my thyroid levels were fine 3 weeks ago- but gee- that sucks if mine was low normal and they just dismissed it! what are these doctors for anyway?? It must be difficult to have trouble with pills like that- it was not pleasurable the few times it happened to me. I don't know if it is my heart i still feel like i'd rather die in my home than in the stupid ER where they just look at you like you're loony. But did either of you get the blue toes thing? my hands and feet stay cold sometimes but often my toes will be slightly blue....anemia? I heard someone had a heart attack from severe anemia. but then again they did not say i was anemic at the hospital either and i had a bunch of bloodwork done- ended up leaving there with them saying i need to see a psychiatrist.

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   Posted 10/7/2009 4:41 PM (GMT -7)   
The term "thyroid nodule" refers to any abnormal growth that forms a lump in the thyroid gland.

The thyroid gland is located low in the front of the neck, below the Adam's apple. The gland is shaped like a butterfly and wraps around the windpipe or trachea. The two wings or lobes on either side of the windpipe are joined together by a bridge, called the isthmus, which crosses over the front of the windpipe.

A thyroid nodule can occur in any part of the gland. Some nodules can be felt quite easily, while others can be hidden deep in the thyroid tissue or located very low in the gland where they are difficult to feel.

www.medicinenet.com/thyroid_nodules/article.htm

There is also a picture that shows exactly where the thyroid gland is located.
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   Posted 10/7/2009 5:19 PM (GMT -7)   
Having issues swallowing is just NOT FUN! =)
My thyroid was on again, off again for several yrs before it finally had had enough & got stingy.

I've never had my toes go truly blue though. My skin is pale enough that my feet can sometimes get a little tint of blue, but that's all.

Do you know what your core body temp is? Mine is 97.4 - and a lot of lymies have trouble with this. I get cold hands & feet --and just down right cold too - frequently. I also run a 'temp' almost every afternoon - between 99.4 - 99.9

I have been reading some very interesting thoughts on Lymies w/ low core body temps from Dr. J.

Who'da ever thunk just by goofing around on here would help people?!?!?! ***giggle!***
It's been said:LD patients can be as ill as people w/ congest. heart failure & in as much pain as post-op patients.
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   Posted 10/7/2009 5:33 PM (GMT -7)   
Traveler,

We must be twins. Everything you just posted sounds like me to a tee. My core body temperature is low and I run a fever in the evenings, but not everyday. Enough though!

My hands and feet are always cold. In fact, I usually sleep with a heating blanket in the summer, lol.
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   Posted 10/7/2009 5:34 PM (GMT -7)   
Just when I think I know what Lyme does to me I read something like these posts and realize how ignorant I still am about Lyme et. al. I also have the lump and trouble swallowing. I often have a weird pain where the lump is as well. I've wondered if I had a sore or a tumor in my esophagus; I never put it together with Lyme or thyroid.

My temperature is low, my heart rate is slow, my blood pressure is abnormally low, I don't get hungry, I don't sleep much. Sometimes it feels like there is no end to the symptoms that could be caused by Lyme and when I start picking through them it becomes apparent just how far away my experience with my body is from the experience of people who don't have this. I'm sorry we're all going through this but glad I'm not alone.

Rose

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   Posted 10/7/2009 6:23 PM (GMT -7)   
gosh, yep! did i mention my hands and feet are freezing right now?? but this is also listed as poor circulation- pain in chest hasn't gone yet- still freaking me out a bit- also in shoulders. I have like all the a-typical heart attack symptoms listed for women. yikes.  My husband isnt that concerned since this happened before w/no heart attack- and i'm sure he doesn't want another fruitless ER visit.  I just wish i could look in there and check my heart myself!  Would my blood pressure tell me if i'm having one or about to have one?
Anyway, i often get the cold hands and feet-but right now it's especially bad and my appetite sucks. sometimes it's just 1 meal a day other days my appetite is better and i can eat well. does anyone feel their worst in the morning? any nausea? gosh i wish my bones would stop popping!
 
Oh and thank you for explaining the nodule thing! I have ALOT to learn. 
 
 

Post Edited (finding721) : 10/7/2009 6:27:22 PM (GMT-6)


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   Posted 10/7/2009 6:49 PM (GMT -7)   
finding,

Is the area between your breast tender if you push on it? Have you been coughing alot lately? Sometimes, you can pull that area and it will give you all the symptoms of a heart attack. It can even make your shoulder hurt too.
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blessings723
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   Posted 10/7/2009 8:23 PM (GMT -7)   
No tenderness between breasts...no coughing- but my shoulders do hurt.... bad signs? Heard a heart attack can last 12 hours but at least my hands and feet don't feel so cold anymore. I really want to see an LLMD- but does anyone know one that does natural treatments in addition to antibiotics? Please email me if you do!

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   Posted 10/7/2009 9:54 PM (GMT -7)   
My shoulders hurt a lot of the time, and I get a pain in the middle of my back along with heart palpitations, chest pain and tightness, shortness of breath. It feels like I've read a heart attack feels, and like you, I've gone to the ER repeatedly to have this checked, and I've been to two cardiologists and undergone a multitude of tests only to be told my heart is fine. When my LLMD was explaining the babesia symptoms to me the light went on - there were my heart symptoms. Now if I really do have a heart attack I'll probably just think it was the Lyme. A person can't keep running to the ER. Difficult to know how to deal with this, but I figure if I'm feeling something I've had in the past and for which I was checked at the time I was having it, then I'm not going to worry about it. If I feel something new, and it seems alarming, then I'll probably wait awhile to see if it goes away, and if it doesn't, I'll see a doctor. Do they have urgent care centers where you live? Those usually bill at the office visit rate instead of the ER rate. Hope you continue to feel better.

Rose

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   Posted 10/7/2009 10:05 PM (GMT -7)   
Rose, your message comforted me a lot- so you actually got checked WHILE you were having symptoms? That's good b/c they say that's the best time to catch anything- so if nothing was found than maybe it's just the critters running around in there making mischief or maybe we have real bad anxiety from this mess! lol. Yes we have urgent care clinics but i'm sitting tight i think- I have run to the ER like 3 times for different things when i didn't know what the heck was happening to me. so what are the babesia symptoms? do they really cause heart attack? I haven't learned much about that.

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   Posted 10/8/2009 3:42 PM (GMT -7)   
Hopefully this will be in a 'sticky' posted at the top of the forum soon;

Babesiosis:- is a malaria-like protozoa illness that invades, infects, and kills the red blood cells. Symptoms include fatigue, night sweats, chills, fever, shortness of breath, heart palpitations, headache, dark urine, muscle pain, joint pain, nausea, and jaundice. Treatment is an anti-malarial combined with an antibiotic--often Mepron with Zithromax (or Biaxin or Ketek).

There are other TBI's sx listed in the post I copied this from.

TBI's can & will infect every organ, system if given the chance. There are certain sx, like heart attck sx, we still can NOT ignore. Same goes for seizures & passing out. It doesn't matter if it is a TBI causing it - serious injury could be the result.
It's been said:LD patients can be as ill as people w/ congest. heart failure & in as much pain as post-op patients.


blessings723
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   Posted 10/8/2009 5:52 PM (GMT -7)   
thanks for the info traveler, today i'm still having mild chest and shoulder pain- yes i would LOVE to have it checked out but i'd rather it be by someone lyme literate. I'm trying to make an appt with an LLMD and made a post for suggestions. if i get any more scary symptoms today i will go the ER. This thing is very overwhelming for me at times- The closest doctor is in Dallas and i'm waiting for a call back. I still don't even know WHICH co-infections i have- i can just assume i have several. of the above symptoms you posted i do get the fatigue-which is still mild at this point- some chills- no fever, occasional night sweets, joint pain and nausea-mostly in the morning. Why is it that i hav the nausea in the morning? I am NOT pregnant- checked a dozen times. Unless you consider hosting lyme bacteria and parasites being pregant.

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   Posted 10/8/2009 8:57 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey Finding - contratulations on becoming a regular member! 
 
Yes, my cardiologist told me to drop in while I was having the symptoms.  I did that when I was having mild pain and irregular bests.  They hooked me to an ecg.  All it showed was the same irregular beats they've already tested.  I even wore a monitor for nearly a month without any evidence of anything more sinister. 
 
Still, twice in the last 6 years my heart rate slowed so much that I blacked out, and then afterward my heart was beating very quickly and hard (to get oxygen to my brain).  Don't know why that happened, and it doesn't last long enough to get to the doctor's office.  Since it's happened so infrequently, it's not likely to occur while I am wearing a monitor.  The first time it happened I may have been dehydrated, but the second time I was fighting a UTI so I know I wasn't low on fluids.  I agree with you that it is unsettling to have cardiac symptoms for which you have no explanation and the stress from that could cause symptoms of its own. 
 
Other than that the one time I had significant symptoms for which I should have visited the ER (and didn't) I had severe chest pain, so bad I could barely breathe, for hours.  Finally I drove to my GP's office.  He listened to my heart and said there was a murmur (which I did not previously have), but declined to do an ecg.  I think at that point he'd pegged me as a nut case.  The next time (maybe 4 months later) I went to the ER they compared the current ecg they had just taken to one they'd done in the past and the doctor said he was concerned that maybe I'd had a heart attack in the past because the wave pattern was completely different than it used to be.  But when I took the two ecg copies to the cardiologist for a follow-up he said there was nothing to worry about.  He thinks the pain was from inflammation of the sack around the heart. 
 
The point is that it is very difficult to know who to see, when to see them, and whether to trust them.  If you can find a LLMD who can do an ecg and who is close enough and available enough to see you immediately when you are having disturbing symptoms you may get an answer about those particular symptoms.   My rule of thumb is that if it is familiar and I've been checked I don't worry.  But if it is something new I'm going to get tested right then.   
 
Hope that helps.
 
Rose

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   Posted 10/8/2009 10:39 PM (GMT -7)   
Finding,

I do not have cold extremities, but I do experience something resembling your throat and chest problem. I do have hypothyroidism and altho they did not test me for Hashimotos, I had an ultra sound on my thyroid because the Dr felt a lump. The ultra sound was normal, tho.

This comes and goes: Sometimes when I am eating, it feels as if my throat and whatever is next -- (esophagus?) are all tight, clogged, as if there is a lump. And it will hurt really bad as the food goes down. Then I will experience a LOT of pain in my (upper) chest and it will take a few minutes to subside.

This scares me only because I read a lady's account of a heart attack: She experienced pain as her food went down and the pain went down into her chest. She thought it was merely the attempt to swallow whatever she was eating. Turns out it was a heart attack.

This does NOT happen every time I eat. Also -- at times I cannot swallow my vites to save my life. I used to swallow literally a handful of vitamins at once, throat, neck, etc opened wide up. Now, sometimes a little 500 mg of C sticks in my throat and often, I have to cough it up and try again.

But again, this comes and goes. If it is not my thryroid, I dont' know what it is. But your difficulty sounds similar, altho I didn't note you mentioning this happening while eating. That is the only time it happens to me, and again, it does not happen every time.

When it does happen, the chest pain is remarkable, altho I cannot say severe.

I wonder what it is?


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   Posted 10/9/2009 2:53 AM (GMT -7)   
hey rose and +lyme, yeah i think i'm nuts. No, acutally I think something is going on with either my thyroid or my GERD because my throat is sore tonight. Could explain a lot. I think i might have torn up my esophogus some more b/c i was using lemon and cayenne pepper in water to assist in cleansing out toxins- bad idea if you have esophigitis. Anyway i may have to see if i can take my nexium (for gerd) while on humaworm. about the eating thing- I recently noticed mild pain while swallowing but have no clue if this is my thyroid or my Gerd. +lyme, do you have Gerd? have you had an endoscope to check your esophagus? if the pain is mainly while you are eating i would say it is either you thyroid or possibly-if your test came back alright- it could be some wear and tear on your esophagus- and that would cause pain when food is going down. I've actually never heard of someone having a heart attack while eating! how strange! Rose, i had no idea you've had so much work up on your heart- but if you read Deejavu's post to me- the one under "Deejavu questions-thank you" you will see she too had have her heart checked out multiple times. Anyway at this point i do get some mild palpatations- is this where you can hear your heart beating? Sometimes i can hear my heart thudding pretty loud-but again, maybe that could be nerves. All i know is that if this is a heart attack- it has gone on for over 24 hours or longer actually and that doesn't make any sense so it must be something else. I am so sorry Rose that you have had to get your heart checked out so much! I don't see how they could think you were nuts if you actually had a heart murmur! Those doctors make me sick sometimes. Ask if you can take Co Q10 its a natural supplement for heart health- i don't see why you couldn't but also cayenne pepper and LOTS of garlic. Garlic is a really good heart herb. I think i will have to get my cayenne pepper in capsules though cause the powder burns my throat!
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