Low Ferritin, High Iron? Contradiction. Also High Hemoglobin. Anyone know what this might point to?

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strongmom
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   Posted 10/9/2009 6:03 PM (GMT -6)   
I checked each of these individually,  and it doesn't make sense to have high Iron and low Ferritin.  Hemoglobin is high too.  Does anyone else have this?  Lyme or coinfection association?  Going to Neuro on Monday,  and it would help to have some idea how such a contradiction can occur.  Thank you.

Razzle
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   Posted 10/9/2009 6:19 PM (GMT -6)   
Ferritin is a measure of body iron stores, not free-floating iron (i.e., that's why the different tests - serum ferritin vs. iron). Have you recently begun supplementing iron and/or eating more iron-rich foods (red meats, beets, raisins, black strap molasses, etc.)? Could also be a lab error or medication side-effect causing these odd results. What did your doctor say about these results?
-Razzle
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strongmom
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   Posted 10/9/2009 10:58 PM (GMT -6)   

Thank you for responding,  I haven't had a chance to speak with her about them yet.  I got the papers to take to the Neurologist and of course you know I had to look them over and start searching for answers before seeing the doc,  lol. 

So I don't have any reserve Iron,  or very little.  I've read that low ferritin could be related to thyroid.  The doc must have thought it was important because the two previous blood panels didn't include that one.  Maybe we have something to work with now,  though.

Then this result on a blood test wouldn't necessarily be related to a tick borne illness?

Maybe doing something to help the thyroid could give me that energy boost and get my immune system back on track?

Anyone else have any input too.  Thank you again.


Razzle
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   Posted 10/10/2009 7:18 AM (GMT -6)   
"Then this result on a blood test wouldn't necessarily be related to a tick borne illness?"

Correct. Though Lyme/coinfections could very well use up iron and/or block absorption of iron from your diet.


"Maybe doing something to help the thyroid could give me that energy boost and get my immune system back on track?"

Possibly. Many with Lyme have thyroid issues.

Good luck,
-Razzle
Chronic Lyme Disease, Chronic Bartonella (clinical dx only), Gluten & Sulfite Sensitivity, Many Food/Inhalant/Medication/Chemical Allergies & Intolerances, Asthma, Gut issues (dysmotility, non-specific inflammation), UCTD ("Secondary Lupus-Like Syndrome"), Osteoporosis, chronic Lymphopenia, etc.; G-Tube; Currently trying to wean off TPN.
Meds:  Pulmicort, IV Ceftazidime, Heparin (to flush PICC line), Claritin, Domperidone, Colloidal Silver (used topically), probiotics, Milk Thistle, homeopathy.


strongmom
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   Posted 10/10/2009 11:57 AM (GMT -6)   

Well I did some more research last night and found one thing that matches up with all low ferritin, low platelets, high hemoglobin and high iron--Hemolytic Anemia.  I hope to God this isn't it. 

Hemolytic Anemia is when red blood cells die off before they should,  and in high numbers,  causing anemia through die off of cells rather than lack of iron.  It's related to autoimmune conditions and can also be caused by Lyme and some coinfections too.  The iron and hemoglobin then enter into the bloodstream after cell die off causing high numbers,  but at the same time the person is anemic so platelets and ferritin are low.

If it's mild,  sometimes people don't even have symptoms.  If it's advanced,  it can be life threatening.

My thyroid numbers are normal,  so it may be something with thyroid like symptoms and could even be affecting thyroid function in some way but might not be originating from the thyroid.

If it is Hemolytic Anemia,  it could be very bad because it's related to other serious diseases too.  Anyway,  that's what I found.  Think I will post a question about Hemolytic Anemia.
 
Thank you again for your response.

NeuroTraci
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   Posted 10/11/2009 11:14 AM (GMT -6)   
Strongmom,

I had the same lab results! I haven't seen my doc yet, so I can't give you any advice. Please let us know what your doc says and good luck.

Oh and thanks to Lyme I am now hypothyroid and take Armour.

Traci

bablymers
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   Posted 10/11/2009 5:17 PM (GMT -6)   
Ask doctor about Ehrlichia and Babesia----I can't remember the "particulars"----but they may have something to do with "wacko" results.

NeuroTraci
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   Posted 10/25/2009 11:26 AM (GMT -6)   
i posted above that I, too, have the high iron/low serum. My Bartonella was confirmed on Tuesday and this makes sense since Bartonella bacteria was found surrounding my red blood cells (and some get in). Just my opinion ....

Traci
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1bitten2xshy
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   Posted 10/25/2009 7:00 PM (GMT -6)   
I have very LOW ferritan (iron stores) however, my hemo is very good.

It has been a mystery for 2+ years until they just told me that it is due to my virals I have. EBV, CMV and HHV6 & 7.

Viruses feed off of iron..hence no stores...but my body is producing (hemo) plenty.

Maybe you should have your virals tested too!
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strongmom
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   Posted 10/26/2009 12:46 AM (GMT -6)   
Thank you. Well I'm also supposed to find out tomorrow when I get to see a movement disorder doc. Priority right now is to control my severe neck spasms. They've gotten worse and need to be sure there isn't actually any lesions or tumors causing them, etc.

Once we get that cleared, then I will be ready to find an LLMD and get tested for coinfections. Thank you for those suggestions on what to look for, I really do appeciate it.
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