blue toes- any gueses?

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blessings723
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   Posted 10/11/2009 3:43 PM (GMT -6)   
I realize this could be a circulation issue but does anyone else get this or remember getting it before starting treatment? Is this anemia? do i need b12?I wasn't taking it but took a capsule today. Do i need something for red blood cell production?? or is there something else besides anemia that causes blue toes? not enough oxygen? If it is circulation- what things can i do for heart support- i am already using garlic and coQ10- but is there anything else? if anyone deals or dealt with the blue extremities thing- please advice as i am still waiting to get in to an LLMD or to get my testing done with IGenex. Thanks soooooo much! It's just a little disheartening. 

CajunGrl
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   Posted 10/11/2009 4:31 PM (GMT -6)   
finding,

Has your doctor ever mentioned Raynaud's Phenomenon? It can cause the fingers and toes to turn blue. Here is a great site to read:

www.medicinenet.com/raynauds_phenomenon/article.htm
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blessings723
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   Posted 10/11/2009 5:02 PM (GMT -6)   
THat was a great site= but they don't turn white and then blue- just my toes turn blue-and now a bit of tingling- and coldness- i am trying not to run to the ER but this is so concerning- does NO ONE else get this??? thank you for the link Cajungrl. If no one else gets blue toes on this forum i think i will run to the ER- if this is just a typical lyme symptom someone must have it too...

alone&scared
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   Posted 10/11/2009 5:05 PM (GMT -6)   
I don't have this problem, but I wanted to post anyway:) If you are having any problems breathing, or with dizziness or fainting, etc. go to the er. Only because the blue in the finger tips and toes can be a lack of oxygen. But, if you aren't having chest pain or any of the above listed symptoms and this has been happening for a while, then I would wait and call your doctor tomorrow morning and see what he/she says about it. Good luck and let us know what happens!

blessings723
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   Posted 10/11/2009 5:07 PM (GMT -6)   
mild chest pain right now- don't know if it's anxiety or real. no dizziness yet. One girl on another forum mentioned lack of oxygen. She said she got this blue toes too- how does one help give the body more oxygen? My mind isn't working for me right now. Thanks :)

alone&scared
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   Posted 10/11/2009 5:15 PM (GMT -6)   
I have anxiety too so I know EXACTLY what you are talking about! I never know if I am having a heart attack or a panic attack. This is what I would do. Draw a warm bath. If you have the epsom salts and cayenne pepper and the other stuff that CG says to use for detoxing, then put some of that in there. (I can bump her post up if you need me to so that you can read it). Put on some calming music, or if you like silence, go with that. Or read a relaxing book. Anyway, relax and don't think about this. AT all. Just relax in your bathtub (oh, if you have anti-anxiety pills like xanax, ativan or klonopin, take one of these pills). Just chill out like it is an ordinary wonderful day and you are perfectly healthy. If you can't stop thinking about it, then try to think of 1 thought. 1 thought that you like. For example, the ocean, the beach, a calm river, a boat ride, etc..whatever makes you happy and peaceful. Everytime you start thinking about anything stressful, go back to that one thought and focus on it alone. Eventually, your mind will give in to you. You just have to show it who is boss.
Do this and relax and calm yourself and the bath will warm you and get your circulation going too. Then, when you are done...if your toes really blue and none of this helped at all...go from there!!!
Hope this helps!

blessings723
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   Posted 10/11/2009 5:44 PM (GMT -6)   
i stuck my foot in hot water and pulled it out- it went normal for a second but is blue again- i did a footbath earlier today w/all the ingredients deejavu talked about-cayenne, mustard, etc...but blueness still here. I cannot believe that my heart might be giving out on me already and the doctors may not even see anything. I am just in my twenties.

I will try to do an epsom salt bath and see if that helps- see if i can get my mind off- that was really good advice, thank you!

Willowrose
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   Posted 10/11/2009 6:15 PM (GMT -6)   
Wow, alone & scared, that was a great post. I really like the idea of focusing on one thought. Sometimes when my mind is giving me a really hard time I just repeat a word over and over again in my head. Over the yeras I've trained myself to relax to that word. And the place I go in my mind is a rose garden where I whirl and twirl pain free, my filmy dress floating on the air as I bend to the music. A lovely place to be. I'm so glad to be reminded of it today. Thank you.

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strongmom
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   Posted 10/12/2009 12:08 AM (GMT -6)   

I had  a problem with a few blue toes several years ago after suffering healh problems following a car accident--my immune system went completely haywire on me. 

My Rheumatologist actually gave me Nifedipine,  I think it's a blood thinner,  but I know its a medication which people with heart conditions take. 

Not enough blood or oxygen were getting to my feet.  I will let you know the stuff will make you giddy and can lower your blood pressure,  and also may make your feet swell a little due to increased blood flow,  but the doc was deeply concerned because my toes appeared to be shrinking from the lack of blood/oxygen.

Sometimes they still cramp or get numb,  and I usually massage them or even sit in front of a heater with my feet near it.  I wear socks much of the time to keep my feet warm when sleeping at night.  Haven't had to take the medication for a long time though.  But that got rid of the blue toes right away.


alone&scared
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   Posted 10/12/2009 7:30 PM (GMT -6)   
Willowrose,
You are welcome:) Can't take credit though...that came from my therapist!lol. Your calm place sounds just perfect though. I actually haven't found mine yet. I have been relying too much on my medications. I need to start taking control of my mind, but one step at a time:)

blessings723
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   Posted 10/13/2009 2:18 AM (GMT -6)   
wow strongmom, that was a big comfort! I think i may ask about that when i go into the doc- i finally have an appt on the 28th! I'm driving a gizzillion miles to Louisiana to see D. F's assistant. I live in houston, texas and this was actually the 2nd to closest option. Well i guess i should be grateful my toes are not shrinking yet! I'm glad your doctor was quick acting on that- i think i will ask for something to help my circulation and oxygen down there too...unless i can find a better natural solution. Cajungrl put a good post of supplements for us! I think i saw a few in there that are supposed to support circulation too! Rats, i bought b12 in capsules and didn't know its better to get it through iv or shots- so does anyone know if its garunteed not to absorb? I took one today anyway but how much do b12 ivs cost anyway or the shots? thank god Dr. F takes insurance. I really don't want to do much medications but i don't want to fall apart before i start my natural protocol- i think this thing has progressed a little fast for me- either that or i've had it way too long without knowing- like maybe from birth.  smhair   :-)
 
ps  i like your username- strongmom- i am a mom too- though i dont' feel as strong as i need to be at the moment- i have 2 little ones that i fear may have lyme too- how did you learn to be strong for your kids? I'd love any words of wisdom i can get. :-)

Post Edited (finding721) : 10/13/2009 2:28:52 AM (GMT-6)


strongmom
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   Posted 10/13/2009 8:13 PM (GMT -6)   

Thank you,  it's not so much that I am strong as it is that if I tell myself I have to be then it helps.  You see,  my mom died of skin cancer when I was 3,  and I don't want my daughter to have to grow up without a mom,  like I did.  So I have to do whatever it takes to get better.

I will tell you too,  that as much as you would like to go the all natural route,  it looks like from what I've read,  that everyone here has benefited from a combination of both prescription and natural remedies. 

I spoke with a woman on the phone today who said she finally had to leave her natural healing doc because the Lyme and coinfections were so strong and hard to kill that she needed something stronger than what he could offer.

Thinking of it like this helps me to push forward and try to find people and answers and help.  It's like a war between you and whatever is making you sick.  Know your enemy,  and use whatever means it takes to defeat it/them.
 
Honestly you are stronger than me if you're raising two children alone.  My husband is a huge support and I've got a very helpful,  understanding 5 year old girl.  They make me strong.

blessings723
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   Posted 10/16/2009 4:34 PM (GMT -6)   
Thank God i still have my husband! I pray it stays that way! I can feel the ammonia on my head right now- Thank you so much for your advice! It's great to hear from so many people- i wish those who are well would get on here and share their testimonies! Seems like Deejavu is the only one i know- if there is anyone else please SAY SOMETHING! LOL. I think i will do a friendly poll on the abx thing. Check for it.
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