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needshelp
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   Posted 10/25/2009 4:08 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi everyone,
 
I've recently been experiencing some excruiating pain in my upper back and neck.  It lasted 4-5 weeks this Summer (August) and then went away.  After 3-4 weeks of being relatively pain-free I'm experiencing the same pain again.  Does this sound like a herx?  I've been on high dose Doxy and Biaxin for 1 year.  I've tried a variety of supplements, pain meds, and acupunture for the pain with limited success.  I'm considering physical therapy or seeing a chiropractor.  Have any of you had success with these types of treatment?  Are they typically covered by insurance?  If not, how much do they cost?  How oftern do you need to see a chiropractor or go to PT for beneficial results?
 
Thanks

alone&scared
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   Posted 10/25/2009 6:58 PM (GMT -6)   
Hello there. I am too new to know if this is you herxing:) However, I LOVE the chiropractor! If you find a good one, you go until your body recognized where your bones should be and holds them there. They have a tendancy to go back to what they are used to (which is usually out of place). Some people just go though when they feel they need to. If money is an issue and your insurance doesn't cover it, then I think it is still better to go whenever you can than not at all. I get relief as soon as I leave the office. Then, I usually get really sore that night and the next day, but if you ice the areas where you had the most trouble, it helps relieve this.
My insurance covers chiropractic, but I have a $40 copay...however, in my area, chiropractors don't even charge that much per visit. It all depends on what kind of insurance you have.
I would start by calling your insurance company, asking if you have the coverage and what your copay is and then ask for a list of chiros that take your insurance within you area. Then, start calling around. Usually, the ones who are into homeopathic remedies and such are the better ones to see. Just make sure that when you call the chiros...this is going to sound crazy, but as if they actually DO ADJUSTMENTS. There are some whoohoos out there who hold their hands over you (not even touch you) and say, "ah, can you feel that healing energy? I can feel you healing right now.
" Then you pay them and leave. Some people think this works, but I am not one of them. I think it is crazy and they should not be allowed to charge you, but whatever:)
If you see a chiro and it doesn't help after a little while, then you can ask your dr about pt. Pt can also be very helpful. But, just remember, with chiro, pt, even your abx treatment, it usually gets worse before it gets better:(
Good luck to you!

CajunGrl
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   Posted 10/25/2009 7:12 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi needshelp,

If it were me, I'd go to a chiropractor. I used to work for one a few years ago and after each adjustment, I felt so much better. I'd always get this relaxing feeling after he adjusted me.

Your insurance should cover it but it may be limited to the amount that they pay. My insurance only covered a certain amount every month. Yours may be different though. You can give your insurance a call and ask what they cover.

You usually have to go three times a week to start, then you go less and less....maybe just a few times a month.

I've also heard that some people herx after getting adjusted, so keep that in mind.
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needshelp
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   Posted 10/25/2009 7:17 PM (GMT -6)   
Canjun and Alone,

Thanks for your responses. Very helpful. I think I'll give it a try. Nothing to lose at this point.

CajunGrl
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   Posted 10/25/2009 7:20 PM (GMT -6)   
I also wanted to tell you to ask around about the chiropractor you want to see. See what other people have to say about him/her. I went to one that pulled a muscle in my back so you don't want that to happen.
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JennInPA
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   Posted 10/25/2009 7:59 PM (GMT -6)   
I'm a big advocate for chiro's. I went when I was little for headaches that would not go away. Now as an adult, I was in a car accident when I was 7 months pregnant and suffered alot of pain, and PT did not help. Then I had my baby and he was sick and not getting better and someone said to try a Chiro. I found an amazing one up the street and my toddler, my teen, and I all go each week. My teen had behavioral issues, depression, learning disabilities, and I am not lying when i tell you that he has made a huge improvement since going. Even his school has called and asked what I've changed because he's a new child. (I feel like I am doing an infomercial. lol ) Anyway, I suffered alot of pain from the accident and it went untreated because I wass preggers, so it took a while before all my pain was gone from the Chiro. But it did go away.

Also - my chiro and I became friends and now I only pay a monthly lump sum, no insurance involved. My brother now goes there and he does the same thing. Alot of chiro's will work something out with you if money is an issue.

I'm giving you a site to look up a family Chiro. I think they are the best ones, rather than ones that just treat adults. I know this site says pediatric, but it's for the whole family. Good luck and please let me know if you need more help finding a Chiro. My Chiro would willing find out which ones are good if needed. She's done this for many of my friends and coworkers.

http://www.icpa4kids.org/locator/index.php

Nicky D
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   Posted 10/25/2009 10:55 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi needshelp,

Well, in my search to find something that would "fix" me (before I gave up), I went to everyone there was including chiropractors. I only got chiropracted treatment on my ankle/legs, but it worked wonders. And my chiropractor did acupuncture as well, and it worked so well I ended up just doing that. It's really relaxing, and it worked better than anything else I found.

strongmom
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   Posted 10/25/2009 11:22 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes to Chiropractors here too.

I joke with people about how to find a good one, but honestly it's a good indicator--Sit outside the office, in your car and watch people going in and out. If they go in bent over and come out walking upright, they're a keeper. If people go in a little haunched over and come out very haunched over, it's a no go.

After my car accident several years ago, if not for my chiropractor, I would probably be in a wheel chair. He, and Glucosamine w/Chondroitin (sp?) helped me more than any medications could.

FYI the physical therapist actually made me worse (I'm sure there are some good ones out there), but when I told the Chiropractor the exercises she had me doing, he cringed and said with the spinal injuries I had those exercises were doing more harm than good.

I've had the best experience with ones who received their Chiropractic licenses at a university in IOWA, though I can't remember the name of the university. If you look it up I'm sure you can find it. It's a well known Chiropractic university.

I actually need to find another chiro, but just haven't had the energy to look. Mine sold his practice to someone who wasn't very good.

You'll know right away if they are a good one. You really should feel at least a little better even after only one visit. If not, keep looking. Hope you find a great one right away.

Razzle
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   Posted 10/26/2009 6:30 AM (GMT -6)   
If the chiropractor you choose has a certificate from Palmer school of chiropractic on his/her wall, don't walk but RUN AWAY shocked !!  The Palmer school trains all its chiropractor students to charge you lots of $$$ and have you come in way more often than usually is necessary.  Typically, these are the chiropractors who only give you an exam on the first appointment without an adjustment, then they try to sell you on how it will take months of 3-5x/week appointments to fix whatever ails you, even if your x-rays look pretty normal (i.e., nothing terribly out of balance).
 
I've been to a fair number of chiro's in my time and every single Palmer graduate chiro has been this way.  The non-Palmer chiro's I've been to are usually more in tune with what the patient actually needs instead of just in it to pad their pocket.
 
Some insurance companies try to limit the number of appointments per year (e.g., mine will only cover 10 appointments/year), probably because of the Palmer grads over-doing things and ruining it for those who really do need to go more often.
 
The goal of a good chiropractor is usually to get you to a point of only needing to come in 2-3 times/year for maintenance adjustments.
 
Just my humble opinion...LOL
-Razzle
Chronic Lyme Disease, Chronic Bartonella (clinical dx only), Gluten & Sulfite Sensitivity, Many Food/Inhalant/Medication/Chemical Allergies & Intolerances, Asthma, Gut issues (dysmotility, non-specific inflammation), UCTD ("Secondary Lupus-Like Syndrome"), Osteoporosis, chronic Lymphopenia, etc.; G-Tube; Currently trying to wean off TPN.
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JennInPA
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   Posted 10/26/2009 6:40 AM (GMT -6)   
I have to disagree that the goal of a good chiro is to get you to come 2-3 times a year. I'm sure alot of chiro's are different, but mine believes as do I , that going to the chiro is preventive care. And before Lyme, i never never never needed to see my Doc. So to me, since I wasn't spending money on Doc appts or meds, the money evened out.

for my toddler, going to the chiro, prevents ear infections, among many other things. For my teen, it helps him not be depressed and helps keep his behavior in check. For me it prevents pain.

My Chiro doesn't even charge me for me, I just pay for my sons. A good Chiro for me is one that care about you and your family's whole being. Everything I've learned about detoxing and herbs, etc.. has been from her.

I think it comes down to what you are looking for because so many Chiro's offer different levels of care.

Razzle
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   Posted 10/26/2009 4:36 PM (GMT -6)   
Over-adjusting can lead to lax ligaments, which usually aren't able to hold a chiropracic treatment very long before letting the bones become misalligned again. A need for frequent treatments suggests the underlying (may be structural) cause hasn't been identified, and/or lax ligaments.

JennInPA,

Yes I agree with you - some people do need more frequent maintenance treatments, hence the use of the word "usually" in my post above... I'm glad you have found chiropractics to be so helpful for your family.

Take care,
-Razzle
Chronic Lyme Disease, Chronic Bartonella (clinical dx only), Gluten & Sulfite Sensitivity, Many Food/Inhalant/Medication/Chemical Allergies & Intolerances, Asthma, Gut issues (dysmotility, non-specific inflammation), UCTD ("Secondary Lupus-Like Syndrome"), Osteoporosis, chronic Lymphopenia, etc.; G-Tube; Currently trying to wean off TPN.
Meds:  Pulmicort, IV Ceftazidime, Heparin (to flush PICC line), Claritin, Domperidone, Colloidal Silver (used topically), probiotics, Milk Thistle, Ailanthus, homeopathy.


Channing how
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   Posted 11/1/2009 7:08 PM (GMT -6)   
Chiropractor is a big help. Find one thats LL. Young ones are better, watch out for qwacks. Best thing get on thats recomended by a LL freind. Tuffs premium 12 Chiro visits a year 10 copay
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