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mother natures child
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   Posted 11/11/2009 4:48 PM (GMT -6)   
 I have MRSA. Of all places over my sternum. So just came from PCP,opened up and stuffed with gauze drains. And yes it hurts. Is there no end to symptoms and disorders? Is it possible that Lyme destroyed my immune system, allowing all these infections to move in? Feeling that I must have been a very very bad person in my past life so now is payback. I know that I should be 'cheerful' for the post but dont feel that way. I did get antibiotics-dicyclomine. shakehead
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mother natures child
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   Posted 11/11/2009 5:27 PM (GMT -6)   
I misspoke. Mistyped? The antibiotic is doxycycline. Also vicodin for pain. Which can cause constipation. What do yall use to prevent constipation?
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mother natures child
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   Posted 11/11/2009 7:36 PM (GMT -6)   
Has anyone had MRSA? or even heard about it? I am frightened. Anyone?
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Razzle
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   Posted 11/12/2009 12:08 AM (GMT -6)   
I have not had MRSA, but have heard of it. There are things one can do to get rid of it (herbs, essential oils).

Constipation from narcotic class pain relievers is caused by the effects of the medication on dopamine in the gastrointestinal wall. Plenty of fluids, fiber, exercise, and deep breathing may be able to help. Vitamin C and magnesium also can promote bowel movements if things get too sluggish.

Good luck,
-Razzle
Chronic Lyme Disease, Chronic Bartonella (clinical dx only), Gluten & Sulfite Sensitivity, Many Food/Inhalant/Medication/Chemical Allergies & Intolerances, Asthma, Gut issues (dysmotility, non-specific inflammation), UCTD ("Secondary Lupus-Like Syndrome"), Osteoporosis, chronic Lymphopenia, etc.; G-Tube; Currently trying to wean off TPN.
Meds:  Pulmicort, IV Ceftazidime, Heparin (to flush PICC line), Claritin, Domperidone, Colloidal Silver (used topically), probiotics, Milk Thistle, Ailanthus, homeopathy.


mother natures child
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   Posted 11/12/2009 5:02 AM (GMT -6)   
Thank you for answering Razzle. Is it posible I have no immune system, and thats why I keep getting every thing under the sun? Do you live in Florida? Do you see a Naturopath? Lots of questions I know, still looking for solutions.
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Harleyrider
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   Posted 11/12/2009 6:37 AM (GMT -6)   
I saw a lady on Dr Oz talking about herr MRSA and how it can be controlled but will never
go away... (just say parts of the show)

Has a doctor told anyone that you would have it forever??
 


Harleyrider
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   Posted 11/12/2009 9:10 AM (GMT -6)   
mother natures child

Did your doctor say anything about putting you on IVmeds for treatment of MRSA

So far the people I know or know of have been treated aggressively with IV abx.

When I was doing IV Rocephine and had to go weekly to the nurse to have her change
my bandage and get more meds and supplies, there was at least three people I saw getting
treated with IV's for MRSA..

Just curious if the doc said anything to you about treating this way??

Thanks Stacy
 


mother natures child
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   Posted 11/12/2009 12:06 PM (GMT -6)   
Hasnt said anything yet. I go back tomorrow. Up all night, this stuff hurts!
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Harleyrider
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   Posted 11/12/2009 12:32 PM (GMT -6)   
mother natures child

I'm sorry you are dealing with so much.

I would ask the doctor if he would put me on IV meds for MRSA...

Rocephine is also used in the IV/PICC for MRSA.
I'm sorry for how this will sound but most doctors will treat you more
quickly and agressively for MRSA then Lyme.
And insurance will pay longer for this infection.

Sounds terrible but thats how the system works right now for us lymies.

So on that note you will treat two bacterias with one Abx.

Hope you get better soon
 


CajunGrl
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   Posted 11/12/2009 1:52 PM (GMT -6)   
mother,

Lyme Disease is known to surpress the immune system so yes, MRSA can be re-activated in your body. From what I understand, many people have MRSA in their body but for some people, it comes out with a weakened immune system. My brother suffers terribly from this. He gets big, open sores on his body. So far, they have only treated him with oral antibiotics.

Also, make sure to wash your hands and disinfect anything that touches that area. MRSA can be spread to others.
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Post Edited (CajunGrl) : 11/12/2009 12:57:31 PM (GMT-7)


mother natures child
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   Posted 11/12/2009 8:23 PM (GMT -6)   
I see pcp tomorrow. I will ask about IV antibiotics. What about probiotics? Do I take them along with the antibiotics , or after? What do they mean by pulsing therapy?
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CajunGrl
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   Posted 11/12/2009 8:45 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes, you can take probiotics with your antibiotics but it should be taken two hours before or two hours after your antibiotic dose.

Pulsing therapy means taking medicine on certain days...like every other day or.... for three days, then stopping for four days, etc.
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Razzle
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   Posted 11/12/2009 9:01 PM (GMT -6)   
Is it posible I have no immune system, and thats why I keep getting every thing under the sun?

Yes, Lyme disables the immune system pretty well and thus makes one more susceptible to other opportunistic infections.


Do you live in Florida?

No, I live at the opposite corner of the country, in the Pacific NW.


Do you see a Naturopath?

Yes. The LLMD's here are way too expensive and they refuse to treat me anyway. My Naturopath diagnosed my Lyme, and he is on my insurance. He is very good at what he does, even though he isn't officially "Lyme Literate" - but he seems to have a 6th sense when it comes to my issues, so I'm sticking with his treatment plan for me (well, haven't started treating the Lyme yet, but we're getting there slowly...).


Lots of questions I know, still looking for solutions.

That's fine, I don't mind the questions. I think everyone here is still looking for solutions...I know I still am...

Take care,
-Razzle
Chronic Lyme Disease, Chronic Bartonella (clinical dx only), Gluten & Sulfite Sensitivity, Many Food/Inhalant/Medication/Chemical Allergies & Intolerances, Asthma, Gut issues (dysmotility, non-specific inflammation), UCTD ("Secondary Lupus-Like Syndrome"), Osteoporosis, chronic Lymphopenia, etc.; G-Tube; Currently trying to wean off TPN.
Meds:  Pulmicort, IV Ceftazidime, Heparin (to flush PICC line), Claritin, Domperidone, Colloidal Silver (used topically), probiotics, Milk Thistle, Ailanthus, homeopathy.


mother natures child
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   Posted 11/12/2009 9:10 PM (GMT -6)   
Im going to find a Naturopath myself. In the meantime, I am on doxy for mrsa, and benicar for high BP. Interestingly I read Benicar is a treatment for one form of Lyme. I think Im going in the right direction.
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Razzle
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   Posted 11/13/2009 12:27 AM (GMT -6)   
I believe MRSA can be cured with herbs/essential oils...the compounds in the herbs/oils are too complex for the MRSA bacteria to adapt to... Discuss this with a Naturopathic physician...

Good luck,
-Razzle
Chronic Lyme Disease, Chronic Bartonella (clinical dx only), Gluten & Sulfite Sensitivity, Many Food/Inhalant/Medication/Chemical Allergies & Intolerances, Asthma, Gut issues (dysmotility, non-specific inflammation), UCTD ("Secondary Lupus-Like Syndrome"), Osteoporosis, chronic Lymphopenia, etc.; G-Tube; Currently trying to wean off TPN.
Meds:  Pulmicort, IV Ceftazidime, Heparin (to flush PICC line), Claritin, Domperidone, Colloidal Silver (used topically), probiotics, Milk Thistle, Ailanthus, homeopathy.


blessings723
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   Posted 11/13/2009 1:57 AM (GMT -6)   
I know I shouldn't ask b/c i'm a nervious wreck anyway but what is MRSA? You know I really do think Razzle is right about natural treatment Mother, you'd be amazed what herbs can do.

Razzle, how did you find a naturopath that takes insurance? It stinks but here in texas they are not licensed or regulated at all so it makes me a little more nervious about going- not to mention i have yet to find one that takes insurance.
I refuse to stay sick! Period. 
 
 


Razzle
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   Posted 11/13/2009 4:57 AM (GMT -6)   
MRSA is Methysillin-Resistant Staph. Aureaus. This means the bacteria is resistant to common antibiotics, so it takes extra strong antibiotics to gain control over a MRSA infection. But the antibiotics don't really kick the MRSA out for good - a person just becomes an asymptomatic carrier. However, I know of a lady who had MRSA and she used essential oils and has not had one single outbreak since using the oils. She had been on antibiotics for a long time prior to that, without successful resolution to her MRSA rash, so we are sure it was the essential oils that healed the infection.

As for how I found the Naturopath, I got lucky - a friend recommended this Naturopath to me and he just happened to be a participating provider on my insurance. You might find recommendations by going to the American Naturopathic Certification Board's website http://www.ancb.net/directory-home.html to search for a certified Naturopathic practitioner near you.

Good luck,
-Razzle
Chronic Lyme Disease, Chronic Bartonella (clinical dx only), Gluten & Sulfite Sensitivity, Many Food/Inhalant/Medication/Chemical Allergies & Intolerances, Asthma, Gut issues (dysmotility, non-specific inflammation), UCTD ("Secondary Lupus-Like Syndrome"), Osteoporosis, chronic Lymphopenia, etc.; G-Tube; Currently trying to wean off TPN.
Meds:  Pulmicort, IV Ceftazidime, Heparin (to flush PICC line), Claritin, Domperidone, Colloidal Silver (used topically), probiotics, Milk Thistle, Ailanthus, homeopathy.


mother natures child
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   Posted 11/13/2009 5:15 PM (GMT -6)   
All good information. Thank you! Came back from doctor with hibicleans to bathe in and some kind of antibiotic ointment for the nose. I guess the antibiotics chase the bacteria away and they like to 'collenise' ? or change forms, making it hard to treat. Could this be the reason Lyme is hard to treat also?
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Razzle
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   Posted 11/13/2009 11:31 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes, Lyme bacteria change into a form that has no cell wall, called L-form. It also is believe to have a cyst form that is very resistant to most antibiotics (Flagyl, an anti-parasitic medication, is used to break up the cyst form). And Lyme is also been shown to form colonies called biofilms in which various forms of the Lyme bacteria co-exist within a "film" that protects them from the antibiotics. Macrolide antibiotics are used to break up biofilms, as are some enzymes (Nattokinase, serrapeptase), Heparin, possibly other things... But the upshot of all this is these different ways in which the Lyme can exist make it much more difficult to get rid of, hence the need for aggressive, long-term, multi-factoral treatment.

Take care,
-Razzle
Chronic Lyme Disease, Chronic Bartonella (clinical dx only), Gluten & Sulfite Sensitivity, Many Food/Inhalant/Medication/Chemical Allergies & Intolerances, Asthma, Gut issues (dysmotility, non-specific inflammation), UCTD ("Secondary Lupus-Like Syndrome"), Osteoporosis, chronic Lymphopenia, etc.; G-Tube; Currently trying to wean off TPN.
Meds:  Pulmicort, IV Ceftazidime, Heparin (to flush PICC line), Claritin, Domperidone, Colloidal Silver (used topically), probiotics, Milk Thistle, Ailanthus, homeopathy.


blessings723
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   Posted 11/15/2009 3:58 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for the site Razzle. :) And the explanation of course! lol. So nothing has been proven to work against this L form? Something must or how have some people gone into remission? Are they just the lucky ones whose lyme didnt go into that form?
I refuse to stay sick! Period. 
 
 


Razzle
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   Posted 11/15/2009 9:28 AM (GMT -6)   
I don't know what specifically works against the L-form. But I also know that not all antibiotics work the same way - some work by damaging the cell wall of the bacteria, and some work in other ways. Yes, something must kill the L-form or like you say, nobody would be able to get well again.

Take care,
-Razzle
Chronic Lyme Disease, Chronic Bartonella (clinical dx only), Gluten & Sulfite Sensitivity, Many Food/Inhalant/Medication/Chemical Allergies & Intolerances, Asthma, Gut issues (dysmotility, non-specific inflammation), UCTD ("Secondary Lupus-Like Syndrome"), Osteoporosis, chronic Lymphopenia, etc.; G-Tube; Currently trying to wean off TPN.
Meds:  Pulmicort, IV Ceftazidime, Heparin (to flush PICC line), Claritin, Domperidone, Colloidal Silver (used topically), probiotics, Milk Thistle, Ailanthus, homeopathy.


Sunshine20090909
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   Posted 11/21/2009 6:12 PM (GMT -6)   
10 days ago you posted this MRSA question. How are you doing with it today?

mother natures child
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   Posted 11/21/2009 6:40 PM (GMT -6)   
sunshine- all packing is out, and healing well! Doxycycline and Benicar keep me up all night ,however. I really dont this difference between a Herx and just plain old side effects...
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   Posted 11/21/2009 7:26 PM (GMT -6)   
Razzle, my LLMD was just telling me about biofilm and that protein enzymes can help, but he didn't give me any details. I see in your post that you mention Nattokinase, serrapeptase. Are those protein enzymes? Are they available without a prescription?

Rose
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Razzle
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   Posted 11/22/2009 2:15 AM (GMT -6)   
Yes, those are enzymes (anything ending in "ase" is an enzyme) and as far as I know, they are available without a prescription at a local health food store or online.

Good luck,
-Razzle
Chronic Lyme Disease, Chronic Bartonella (clinical dx only), Gluten & Sulfite Sensitivity, Many Food/Inhalant/Medication/Chemical Allergies & Intolerances, Asthma, Gut issues (dysmotility, non-specific inflammation), UCTD ("Secondary Lupus-Like Syndrome"), Osteoporosis, chronic Lymphopenia, etc.; G-Tube; Currently trying to wean off TPN.
Meds:  Pulmicort, IV Ceftazidime, Heparin (to flush PICC line), Claritin, Domperidone, Colloidal Silver (used topically), probiotics, Milk Thistle, Ailanthus, homeopathy.

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