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JennInPA
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   Posted 12/9/2009 4:40 PM (GMT -6)   
ok, i've been here for a few months now and I've been doing good on my new meds/new doc. Wellllllllll I don't have health insurance anymore. I was paying for Cobra, but it went from 160 a month to 453 a month. I can't afford it. So... my income is too much for state help. The low income health insurance you pay $30 a month for has a waiting list that is a year long, and I can't get health insurance from an independent place because I have a pre existing condition.

So... I called a naturopathy which I'd love to do anyway because I've always treated everything holistically. BUT holistic Docs are $500 for the 1st visit and $250 each one after that and that does not include supplements or blood work.

I know there are Lymies out there who have used naturopathy but I can't remember who.... how's it going? how does it work? do you recommend it?

Thanks
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yogamom2
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   Posted 12/9/2009 5:08 PM (GMT -6)   
I am seeing one but she charges 150 for the first visit and 70 for each one after.

I have been very happy with her but I see md's to get all the regular test done.

Do you have a naturopathy collage near you that might be a good option. They do not charge so much.
My family and I have been enjoying my life without dairy gluten and soy for many years.

Found out about it in spring of 2009 that I have been living with Lyme for over 8 years. My symptoms of Lyme have been Mini-Strokes/TIA's, Hashimoto's disease, swelling of my liver and kidneys. Anaphylactic reactions to raw apples, raw carrots, and Beef. Allergies to dairy, gluten, and Soy.


Nicky D
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   Posted 12/9/2009 5:42 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi

I started off seeing a Naturopathic doctor. Unfortunately, for me, it was almost mroe expensive than seeing an LLMD. The first appointment was 150 and follow-ups were 75, and I had to pay for all the supplements out of pocket. With my LLMD, my pills are 70% covered by Alberta health care. In my opinion, Naturopathic treatment isn't any less expensive than seeing a doctor. If you can figure out supplements to take on your own, without a naturopath, it's a bit cheaper, but it's still expensive.

The naturopath near you seems pretty expensive, but I don't know what the average cost is in your area. My appointments don't cover any blood work or supplements either.

JennInPA
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   Posted 12/9/2009 6:47 PM (GMT -6)   
Sorry if I wasn't clear. Holistic Docs are 500 for 1st visit. Naturopath is 150 for first visit and 85 after that. I don't have any healthcare so my meds, my labwork, everything would be out of pocket. I really really like my LLMD, so I am going to tell him what's going on first. He's 150 every 6 weeks. I stopped taking my meds 2 weeks ago to see how I would feel and my pain returned, but I still have lots of energy and my brain fog isn't any worse, and I don't have any new symptoms.

yogamom-- does a naturopath do supplements only or do they include craniosacral massage etc... and how often do you have to see ure naturopath?
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yogamom2
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   Posted 12/9/2009 9:26 PM (GMT -6)   
I think it depends on the training they have had. My naturopath is also a Chinese medicine doctor and a chiropractor. So she also does massage, moxa, acupuncture and adjustments as needed.

You have to look around and shop doctors. Ask what they do. Sometimes they do not advertise all of the things they do. Do not ask me why! Seems silly right! Well I found mine though word of mouth. Naturopathic collage is a good place to start. Ask around. Ask about lyme.

I see mine every about every 3 weeks but i know she has patients that she sees once every couple months due to finances. Giving them a list of things to do if one thing or and other happens. I think Naturopaths are much more aware of money. My doctor is always telling me how much different things cost so I can add that to my decision process when making heath care choices.

The thing is my doc has people flying in from everywhere to see her. I do not know how normal this is. She is very good! I am challenging to her. She seems to love puzzles and has had lyme herself. She believes it can be cured.

I hope this helps.
My family and I have been enjoying my life without dairy gluten and soy for many years.

Found out about it in spring of 2009 that I have been living with Lyme for over 8 years. My symptoms of Lyme have been Mini-Strokes/TIA's, Hashimoto's disease, swelling of my liver and kidneys. Anaphylactic reactions to raw apples, raw carrots, and Beef. Allergies to dairy, gluten, and Soy.


Willowrose
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   Posted 12/9/2009 10:26 PM (GMT -6)   
The naturopath I see and my LLMD charge pretty much the same amount for an office visit.  The naturopath wants to see me more often because she does treatments; the LLMD sees me once a month, prescribes things and monitors my bloodwork, etc.  The naturopath uses the rife machine, a Bemer (helps with bloodflow), and does allergy treatments.  She sells me supplements, holistic formulas, herbs.  My insurance does not pay for the visits to the naturopath or for any of the treatments and supplements she sells, or for any tests she orders.  It does pay for my pharmaceuticals prescribed by the LLMD, and for tests he orders.  The net result for me, with insurance, is that the LLMD is much less expensive.
 
I think if you find a good naturopath who knows about Lyme and  coinfections, and how to treat them naturally, and the net cost is less than for the LLMD plus dx, it's worth a try.  But if you really like your LLMD and it's the meds that are putting you over the top with the budget, then maybe it would be beneficial to look into signing up for one of those prescription discount programs.  I know some drugstores have them, and some pharmaceutical companies offer them, but I don't have any details. 
 
Rose
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JennInPA
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   Posted 12/10/2009 7:30 AM (GMT -6)   
Rose - I've looked into the script programs - all of them. The problem is the dosage is not covered. I take Fluconazole once a day and prescription programs cover 1 pill a day. Target will give 3 pills for $10 in a month. I need 30 pills. The antibiotic I am on is not covered at the dosage either. I'm really stuck.

The one positive thing is that the county I live in has the highest rate of Lyme in the state. So it is very common here, no questions asked. You can mention it anywhere you go, and someone knows someone with it. It's a shame really, but... all the naturopaths, regular MD's, everyone is familiar with it. Everyone I've spoke to says they have a ton of patients with Lyme.

I even found a free clinic type of place, and they will treat me for Lyme but I am sure they follow guidelines, however I can at least get my bloodwork done for free there. Only problem there is, as soon as I come up negative they will stop treating me. I'm going to start there though.
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Willowrose
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   Posted 12/10/2009 11:13 PM (GMT -6)   
There seem to be a lot of dead ends with coverage for Lyme. Sorry to hear the RX programs won't work for you. I'm sure you've checked out-of-country pharmacies, too.

Good news about the clinic. It is encouraging to learn that in places where Lyme is confirmed additional services have become available. Maybe that will keep expanding. Where I live most people don't even think we have ticks, let alone Lyme. Doctors here dismiss concerns about Lyme, saying it's not here. (Which isn't true, and presumes none of us have ever gone anywhere else.)

I hope you will find a better alternative soon, or one will find you.

Rose
I have Lyme; it doesn't have me.


peacesoul
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   Posted 12/13/2009 10:54 AM (GMT -6)   
Any ND who charges 500$ per session is in this for the money and not the healing.
I'm going into my 2nd year of Naturopathic medicine, and can tell you, when I'm certified, will never charge those INSANE rates.

I live in Montreal, which is a huge city, and the ND"s here charge a max of $150 for a 90 mins session.

All ND's can treat lyme, it's not the illness, it's the balance of the body they work on to give the body the strength to fight ANY illness.

I got much better naturally than with meds for my lyme.
It's all about proper diet, vitamins, supplements and herbs......I used oil of oregano, oil of clove, oil of cinnimon, oil of thyme, this was in a one shot forumla.
It's all about trial and error and doing a ton of reseach and asking questions over and over until you find what works for you.

JennInPA
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   Posted 12/13/2009 5:29 PM (GMT -6)   
Holisitic is different than ND. Holisitc charges 500, not the ND. The ND is 150 for the 1st session. 85 each after. Sorry I made it so confusing. Lyme brain :)
“You must be the change you wish to see in the world.” -Gandhi

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