What's the deal with malabsorbtion?

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blessings723
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   Posted 12/11/2009 12:42 AM (GMT -6)   
Just wondering if anyone knows if this is correctable as lyme is treated? My son and I are very vit D deficient- and i was wondering who else had this and after "super" doses (my son is on 5000iu 1 time per week- does this "level" out?
 
Oh and one other quick question- restless leg syndrome- i CAN'T get my leg to stay still! one of them is almost ALWAYS moving- is this just an anxiety symptom or is it connected to something? Does it ever go away?
 
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   Posted 12/11/2009 4:17 PM (GMT -6)   
Zinc deficiency may cause restless legs. Also iron deficiency anemia may make restless legs worse. I use homeopathy to control restless legs...the best remedy I've found is homoepathic Causticum (can get in local health food store or online at http://abchomeopathy.com/ - I have no financial connection with this website). May also need Vitamin B12 as well as a general B-Complex to help the nervous system.

Malabsorption is something I also deal with a lot. I don't know how to fix mine (I have complicating issues), but I asked my Naturopath and he recommended L-Glutamine powder taken on an empty stomach or with non-protein food.

I've had some success in the past with digestive enzymes also.

And Acidophilus seems to help me to some extent...just have to find the right supplement for you. I've tried many that did nothing or made me sicker; finally found one that is working great for me.

Good luck,
-Razzle
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Willowrose
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   Posted 12/12/2009 11:43 PM (GMT -6)   
I take digestive enzymes with meals.

Rose
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CajunGrl
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   Posted 12/13/2009 11:38 AM (GMT -6)   
finding,

Many people with Lyme are deficient in Vitamin D. I just found out that I am too. I was also prescribed 50,000 IU once a week. Low Vitamin D can cause a lot of problems too. I've read that some people that were really low, were in a wheel chair and the doctors couldn't figure out what was wrong. It was low Vitamin D. Do a google search on it. You will be very surprised.
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JELAINEP
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   Posted 12/14/2009 2:48 PM (GMT -6)   
I was reading thru the questions/topics very quickly.... and thought you asked:  "What's the deal with **********?" - lol!!! blush devil turn devil blush
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   Posted 12/14/2009 6:49 PM (GMT -6)   
I CANNOT BELIEVE THAT THE WORD is edited and has been deleted. What have we come too?


Well, all I can say to that is, "IT'S PEANUTBUTTER JELLY TIME". smilewinkgrin nono rolleyes rolleyes cool smhair cool rolleyes nono smilewinkgrin





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRBOgtp0Hac&feature=fvsr

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blessings723
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   Posted 12/14/2009 7:52 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks everyone! you know i do have a bottle of digestive enzymes sitting around here somewhere...
 
and i am positive i'm vit D deficient- just waiting on results- my son was put on 5000iu once a week.  I bet i will need the 50,000. Heard of another gal who needed that much as well!
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blessings723
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   Posted 12/14/2009 7:54 PM (GMT -6)   
Gee, did that really look like ma*********** ? LOL. Sorry kids! What am i saying? I'm practically still a kid myself! does 21 count as a kid?... Guess not since i'm married with two babies! :)
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Tala3
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   Posted 12/15/2009 9:18 PM (GMT -6)   
In scanning I misread it too! Had to do a double-take and and then just cracked up...

CajunGrl
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   Posted 12/16/2009 6:22 AM (GMT -6)   
Jelaine,

You have been here a long time and you know that you can't say that, lol. This is a family friendly forum and younger kids do come on here. I would not want my younger daughter reading that.
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CajunGrl
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   Posted 12/16/2009 6:24 AM (GMT -6)   
I was told that when the liver is congested or overloaded with toxins, that the body has a harder time absorbing vitamins and nutrients.

Can't leaky gut cause this too?
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Razzle
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   Posted 12/16/2009 8:22 AM (GMT -6)   
Inflammation in the gut causes leaky gut. Infection from Lyme or yeast or parasites etc. can cause the inflammation that can lead to leaky gut. Also, it is known that gluten (from wheat/rye/barley) promotes a widening of the spaces between gut lining cells, even in people who do not have Celiac disease....therefore, it can be said that eating a lot of wheat products may lead to leaky gut as well.

Phytates (found in legumes, wheat, some other foods) also can bind to nutrients and prevent their absorption. Phytase is an enzyme that is found in some digestive enzyme products that helps to break down the phytates so they don't interfere with nutrient absorption.
-Razzle
Chronic Lyme Disease, Chronic Bartonella (clinical dx only), Gluten & Sulfite Sensitivity, Many Food/Inhalant/Medication/Chemical Allergies & Intolerances, Asthma, Gut issues (dysmotility, non-specific inflammation), UCTD ("Secondary Lupus-Like Syndrome"), Osteoporosis, chronic Lymphopenia, etc.; G-Tube; Currently trying to wean off TPN.
Meds:  Pulmicort, IV Ceftazidime, Heparin (to flush PICC line), Claritin, Domperidone, Colloidal Silver (used topically), probiotics, Milk Thistle, Ailanthus, homeopathy.


CajunGrl
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   Posted 12/16/2009 8:38 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks Razzle. I love getting schooled and learning new things.
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JELAINEP
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   Posted 12/16/2009 4:36 PM (GMT -6)   
I honostely did not know that that particular word would be "censored"..... I'll add it to my list - lol!

AND THERE SHE GOES AND THERE SHE GOES AND HERE SHE COMES AND HERE SHE COMES, IT'S PEANUT BUTTER JELLY TIME!
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CajunGrl
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   Posted 12/16/2009 4:55 PM (GMT -6)   
Jelaine,

Duh! lol
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blessings723
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   Posted 12/17/2009 6:57 PM (GMT -6)   
arrr, i'm really frustrated now- someone told me vit D supplementation can suppress the immune system??? has anyone heard this? I googled it and saw two opinions on it- that it can help autoimmune issues and can help cancer- like there is controversy on whether it boosts or suppresses the immune system? i'm confused!!
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Razzle
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   Posted 12/17/2009 7:08 PM (GMT -6)   
I always thought Vitamin D helped the immune system to be stronger/more effective...
-Razzle
Chronic Lyme Disease, Chronic Bartonella (clinical dx only), Gluten & Sulfite Sensitivity, Many Food/Inhalant/Medication/Chemical Allergies & Intolerances, Asthma, Gut issues (dysmotility, non-specific inflammation), UCTD ("Secondary Lupus-Like Syndrome"), Osteoporosis, chronic Lymphopenia, etc.; G-Tube; Currently trying to wean off TPN.
Meds:  Pulmicort, IV Ceftazidime, Heparin (to flush PICC line), Claritin, Domperidone, Colloidal Silver (used topically), probiotics, Milk Thistle, Ailanthus, homeopathy.


blessings723
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   Posted 12/17/2009 7:13 PM (GMT -6)   
Razzle i was hoping you would comment on this b/c you have been researching alot- have you read anything that talks about this? I honestly think so too- but now i'm confused over what this one person told me- i did find some articles talking about it helping autoimmune issues. I just made a new post about this b/c i didn't know if anyone would see it here. I really hope you're right b/c this person was advising me not to supplement with it and i really think i should
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Razzle
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   Posted 12/17/2009 7:33 PM (GMT -6)   
I also posted to your separate vitamin D question...

If you are unsure whether to supplement with it, then maybe you could have your doctor test you for Vitamin D (both the 25 and the 1,25 forms should be checked) and see if you are deficient. There is one Lyme protocol (Marshall protocol) in which vitamin D is specifically avoided, but I do not believe this should be done in all people with Lyme...the test results from vitamin D blood tests will reveal whether a person should/should not supplement in my opinion.

Also, most prescription vitamin D is D2 (ergocalciferol), but the body has to work harder to use this form (must be converted to D3), so it is better to get an over-the-counter Vitamin D3 (cholecalciferol) supplement.

Take care,
-Razzle
Chronic Lyme Disease, Chronic Bartonella (clinical dx only), Gluten & Sulfite Sensitivity, Many Food/Inhalant/Medication/Chemical Allergies & Intolerances, Asthma, Gut issues (dysmotility, non-specific inflammation), UCTD ("Secondary Lupus-Like Syndrome"), Osteoporosis, chronic Lymphopenia, etc.; G-Tube; Currently trying to wean off TPN.
Meds:  Pulmicort, IV Ceftazidime, Heparin (to flush PICC line), Claritin, Domperidone, Colloidal Silver (used topically), probiotics, Milk Thistle, Ailanthus, homeopathy.


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   Posted 12/17/2009 11:15 PM (GMT -6)   
My LLMD told me that 25% of patients with lyme have a particular pathway from the disease that converts vitamin D into an inflamatory agent.  There is a blood test for this pathway, it can be proven or disproven if you have this problem.  Chronic Inflamation in general does interfer with the immune system.  So does low vitamin D.  D is also needed for detox.  However, patients with this pathway are low in vitamin D because they keep converting it to inflamation.  I have this particular problem.  This is how I deal with it.
 
When I take vitamin D I may feel worse, I may have a worsening of symptom, however, I need vitamin D for my body to function, including my immune system.  This is a catch 22.  For month I didn't take vitamin D, and still was sick.  my personal conclusion was that the benefit of living with less vitamin D and therefore theoretically less pain, was outweighed by the long term problem of having low vitamin D for too many months impairing my body function.  I ultimately chose for me to supplement with vitamin D, a few times a day.  my vitamin D levels are still low, just not horribly low like before. 
 
 I addressed the inflamation with an anti inflamation diet, Co Q 10, Wobenzymes and a variety of other techniques.  My hope is as I recover this will not be a problem forever.

blessings723
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   Posted 12/18/2009 12:10 AM (GMT -6)   
This is all very interesting and maybe the inflammation issue is why Vit D is avoided in the marshall protocol?

I did have the 1 and 25 vit D tests done- just waiting for results...thank you for the explanation Razzle and Cmacaran- gee you really did your homework on that one. It really does seem like a catch 22 in some situations. How do i ask my LLMD about this? Do you remember what test it was?

Does anyone have their gut making noises ALL the time?
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mustangfiveohhh
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   Posted 12/28/2009 1:51 AM (GMT -6)   
I know this sounds simple but I got it from a doctor.... sunshine is the best source of absorbable vitamin D. Sit outside for 15 minutes a day. I am not saying it is a cure but it has helped my problem.
MG

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   Posted 12/28/2009 11:54 PM (GMT -6)   
Sitting in the sun only works if you live far enough South...most of the US and all of Canada is too far North to have the right sun angle for the generation of Vitamin D in the skin year round...can only get enough Vitamin D generation from the sun between 10am & 2pm from May to September or something like that. Also, have to have a lot of skin exposed to the sun to get enough.
So supplements/food sources (fish) are necessary the rest of the year for most in the US/all of Canada.
-Razzle
Chronic Lyme Disease, Chronic Bartonella (clinical dx only), Gluten & Sulfite Sensitivity, Many Food/Inhalant/Medication/Chemical Allergies & Intolerances, Asthma, Gut issues (dysmotility, non-specific inflammation), UCTD ("Secondary Lupus-Like Syndrome"), Osteoporosis, chronic Lymphopenia, etc.; G-Tube; Currently trying to wean off TPN.
Meds:  Pulmicort, IV Ceftazidime, Heparin (to flush PICC line), Claritin, Domperidone, Colloidal Silver (used topically), probiotics, Milk Thistle, Ailanthus, homeopathy.


blessings723
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   Posted 12/29/2009 1:16 AM (GMT -6)   
how odd- i'm not vit D deficient after all... my son is and i'm not...
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CajunGrl
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   Posted 12/29/2009 3:11 AM (GMT -6)   
Well that's a good thing. It would have only given you more problems.
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