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CajunGrl
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   Posted 1/27/2010 9:15 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey hun,
 
I saw you say that you had tendonitis in your elbow. What are your symptoms? I hit my elbow a few times in the same place months ago and I've been getting what I call "flares". The pain will go away for a bit, then start hurting really bad again. When it hurts, I can barely put it down on anything.....even a soft blanket. It is usually warm in the area too.
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pepphell
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   Posted 1/27/2010 10:46 PM (GMT -6)   
I had tentonitis in shoulders, and did physical therapy and my shoulders are 90% functional now. any pain in joint gets hot/warm.
my knee stays warm 80% of the day cuz of constant pain. only with recent meds, the pain has somewhat reduced, but still very much in the way of normalcy. let's see. I am on ceftin 1000mg a day now, hopefully this makes the symptoms better. So fed up of doxy.

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   Posted 1/27/2010 10:50 PM (GMT -6)   
Pepphell,

Thanks for the reply. I'm just wondering why it doesn't heal and keeps hurting.
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   Posted 1/28/2010 12:20 PM (GMT -6)   
my best guess for not healing would be deep infection, or abx resistance bacteria, or something.
 
 On the other side I am making progress,  (but it's slow). I got a good night sleep (woke up only once) and i am eating healthy, which i am really proud of, and able to even go down steps (with pain, I should add).
 
the problem with lyme is that treatment is
a) expensive,
b) slow
c) painful
d) uncertain
 
now any of us who have don't like one of those 4 bullet points, have to suffer.
 
 

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   Posted 1/28/2010 6:36 PM (GMT -6)   
Pepphell,

That is awesome that you are eating right! It's hard and I am proud of you for doing it and sticking to it!

Regarding my elbow....it feels better today. That's what I don't understand. It hurts for a few days really bad, then gets better. I've been dealing with this for about three months now.
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Nicky D
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   Posted 1/28/2010 6:38 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey CG,

I have major problems with tendinitis, in most joints, including my elbow. Here is what I have learned about it:
- you need to get the inflammation down. It tends to get into a viscous cycle, where you get inflammation from the initial injury, but then because your injury is inflamed, you get more pressure and more pain, which makes it more inflamed...etc. So rest, ice, and anti-inflammatories are the first thing you should do.
--You can get scar tissue buildup around the tendon- especially if you have had a lot of swelling (the swelling sort of solidifies into solid tissue). This can sometimes aggravate things.

A couple of therapys I tried that helped with both the pain and inflammation and scar tissue were "active release therapy" (chiropractors or massage therapists are usually the people who get certified int this- it is hard to explain, and it isn't pleasant, but it works quite well), acupuncture, or just a chiropractic adjustment. It might surprise you. but I had the most success with a chiropractor. He started off just adjusting the joint (it was my ankle, not my elbow), but he was also certified in acupuncture. The acupuncture worked really well for pain and inflammation, but eh adjustments helped me with my range of motion and scar tissue.

However, none of those things really worked long term for me, but I think that was because the Lyme kept bringing the tendinitis back. So if you have tendonitis from an injury, this could help, but if it is caused by Lyme, I think it could help alleviate the symptoms, but probably won't fix the problem for good.

Tendons are tough ones though. They often go into such confined spaces that any inflammation causes a lot of problems

CajunGrl
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   Posted 1/28/2010 6:45 PM (GMT -6)   
Nicky,

Thanks so much for the reply. I've been wanting to go back to my chiropractor but just haven't been feeling well enough. I haven't gotten out since Christmas. I've been rubbing muscle cream on it, which I know isn't for the tendon, but it seems to bring down the pain a bit. I'm telling you, complaining about elbow pain seems whiney but I've never hurt this bad with pain until the Lyme bacteria really started reaking havoc.

I do have a natural inflammatory with white willow bark and feverfew in it that I will try next time it hurts....which will probably be in a few days.

Thanks again:)
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springsjean
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   Posted 1/28/2010 9:18 PM (GMT -6)   
Cajungirl, my elbow started out by being really dry and with like a black circle on it. It is now very sore to straighten my arm and/or pick up things or carry anything. I have tried a brace (doesn't help much), cream, heat, ice. Dr. said probably from the lyme since no none injury. This disease is bizarre that it can manifest in such strange ways. I am thankful that it is my elbow in this much pain cause my knees ache but if they were like my elbow, I'd be having a hard time walking. I also wondering now if the black mark could have been an indication of insulin resistance since I seem to be having hard time with sugar of any kind. Heart palps seems to come on eating certain foods. Just so baffling.

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   Posted 1/29/2010 2:06 PM (GMT -6)   
spring,
even tho ice make you feel better in short term, ice is mostly not recommended for lyme induced joint problems.

i'd start eliminating the inflammatory foods (such as starcy ones). start decent intake of turmeric. I am also eating 2 pills of MERIVA as recommended by my doc. check it out, http://www.thorne.com/articles/meriva.jsp

and pain is pain, whether be it elbow or knee, i totally understand how it feels when you can't move that part of the body. so far i've had pain only on one joint at a time (but most of them at somepoint have been affected, neck, knee, ankle, elbow, shoulder). don't want to know how it is like to have pain all over at once.

try to strech as much as you can as long as it doesn't hurt. keep mobility in other parts of the body, heard/read that exercise can significantly reduce the joint pains.

by the way guys, 3 days in a row, I'VE STOPPED SWEATING in the night. hopefully 1000mg of ceftin kickin in. am i happy?

springsjean
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   Posted 2/1/2010 8:04 PM (GMT -6)   
thanks so much for the tips. All are so appreciated. didn't even know starcy foods are inflammatory after all my research. LOL. Yes I am thankful usually one joint at a time having bad pain. Knees are tight and achy and stabbing pains in other but not continuous other than elbow at the moment. gonna check out meriva. Thanks again.

Lovelabs
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   Posted 2/1/2010 8:54 PM (GMT -6)   
Tendinitis was one of my very first symptoms. I had it in my wrist on and off for months. One day I woke up and it was gone. Not a gradual healing just gone. SO crazy. Now I have other pain. Hoping it gets better. Tendinitis is so common in Lyme. I remember thinking I must have hurt it taking wet towels out of the wash. (this was before I knew I had Lyme). Hope it lets up soon for you. I remember how bad it hurt!

Nicky D
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   Posted 2/1/2010 9:24 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey- thanks. I didn't know ice wasn't good for Lyme people.

pepphell
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   Posted 2/1/2010 9:26 PM (GMT -6)   
same here, tendonitis is what i was diagnosed when i went to the doctor with an immobile shoulder. but the pain went away on its own. so crazy. one day left shoulder, next day right. until one ugly day my knee pain got to a point where i become deblitated (the day before thanksgiving). luckily knee got better (so i could limp) with 10 hrs of icing (only if knew not to do this) on thanksgiving day lying in bed, but since that day, knee hasn't really felt the same. stiff, pains in almost all areas of knee, but ceftin 1000mg and controlling my diet (free of sugar, and starch, and yeast), has put me back to walking somewhat normally.

as infection is clearly away i am trying to exercise the knee, with being very careful during steps. but right now things are looking hopeful, i have to say. my doctor is heaven sent. but i dont forget to give myself credit for being in discipline and will reward myself (momentarily) by breaking one rule this friday, when i go on date, and have wine. i am not supposed to have wine, but from past experience i've known it makes the girl feel at home.

spring: there are two more tips that i have yet to try, but am researching is, one is magnet therapy for joint pain,and second is glacusomine intake forever to promote joint and bone health. let me know if you have any other ideas.

CajunGrl
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   Posted 2/2/2010 12:30 AM (GMT -6)   
pepphell,

If you don't mind me asking....who told you that ice was not good for people with Lyme? Can you post the links here if that's where you found your information? This is the first time I've heard of this. Btw, just because I've never heard of it, doesn't mean it's not true. There is so much to learn about this disease and I'd like to research it further.


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pepphell
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   Posted 2/4/2010 9:48 AM (GMT -6)   
CJ, here is the reason for not using ICE.

lyme produce inflammation in your body. Ice is supposed to reduce inflammation (externally). But Inflammation also means more blood going to the affected areas. When you are on medicine, this is precisely you want: more medicine carrying blood going to the inflammatory areas to clear the BB infection. You need to internally reduce the inflammation, not externally. Which is why we lymies shouldn't eat starchy food either.
 
Again I could be wrong on this, but I am more of a proponent of fixing the problem at the root rather than doing interim solutions. Ice is good for instant pain management and relief but it really gets us nothing in the long run. We need to fix the inflammation in our bodies. STOP WHITE RICE NOW. hehe.
 
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