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Martha's Vineyard
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   Posted 2/5/2010 11:54 AM (GMT -6)   
This is not available in all states. It is a blood treatment that I did over 45 times at Enivta. I had a port in my chest for easy and painless flow. They would take a small bottle of blood, uv it and put it back into my body. When it left me it was thick and reddish black. After they cam back it was frothy and bright reddish orange.
This is done in the clinic. Then they would put it back into me. A fast process. I think that this process is what cured me more than anything. My fever and mirgrain and vertigo and pain were gone. In the first two weeks. It was like going through a car wash. All of my symptoms just fell off like mud.
I think that this blood treatment is the big secret to cure disease and boost our immune system. And combined with a perfect diet and supp.  and excercise and faith, and your off.
Our family all got lyme in 2004. It has been a long battle. But all is well now with my children. Feb 8 TH of 2009 is when I left Envita. And I am celebrating a year of perfect health.


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   Posted 2/5/2010 1:48 PM (GMT -6)   
Is it ozone or UV? I'm confused...
-Razzle
Chronic Lyme Disease, Chronic Bartonella (clinical dx only), Gluten & Sulfite Sensitivity, Many Food/Inhalant/Medication/Chemical Allergies & Intolerances, Asthma, Gut issues (dysmotility, non-specific inflammation), UCTD ("Secondary Lupus-Like Syndrome"), Osteoporosis, chronic Lymphopenia, etc.; G-Tube; Currently weaning off TPN.
Meds:  Pulmicort, IV Doxycycline, Heparin (to flush PICC line), Claritin, Singulair, Domperidone, Colloidal Silver (topically & nasally), probiotics, Liver support herbs, Ailanthus, digestive enzymes, homeopathy.


Martha's Vineyard
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   Posted 2/5/2010 5:04 PM (GMT -6)   
I was calling it oxy tosh and Ozone. lol....But it is Ozone, and they UV the blood, which cleans it, and I think a hydrogen gas 3. is added. Google it for a better discription that I am giving.
I only had lyme and bart. so that was a big part of my treatment, 4 times a week.
Our family all got lyme in 2004. It has been a long battle. But all is well now with my children. Feb 8 TH of 2009 is when I left Envita. And I am celebrating a year of perfect health.


Harleyrider
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   Posted 2/5/2010 5:21 PM (GMT -6)   
Martha

So Great that you are finally living lyme free...I could only imagine the fun and pain free life you are finally enjoying.
Good to know that Envita takes insurance. I do have a question about your treament at Envita. You say that they
clean your blood. Ok my question is if its the blood they are cleaning then how does the treatment get into you tissues,
and bones? It is because your blood flows through those areas and kills the lyme? How does it treat the cyst forms of
lyme? Sorry if I sound stupid, but very interested in this treatment. Can you share with us what the total cost out of
pocket after insurance covered their part. So many questions but can't remember all right now, shoot I knew I should
write them down. Oh....why did it take 45times and is everyone different with the amount of times the blood is cleaned?

Its the greatest thing to have you back and sharing your experience with all whom want to learn.
I'm with you in the getting pissed over this lyme taking over my life. Its time to really go to war with this disease.

Thanks for your insite
Love having you back and well
 


GWB
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   Posted 2/5/2010 7:48 PM (GMT -6)   
Harleyrider said...
Martha

So Great that you are finally living lyme free...I could only imagine the fun and pain free life you are finally enjoying. You say that they
clean your blood. Ok my question is if its the blood they are cleaning then how does the treatment get into you tissues,
and bones? It is because your blood flows through those areas and kills the lyme? How does it treat the cyst forms of
lyme? Sorry if I sound stupid, but very interested in this treatment. Oh....why did it take 45times and is everyone different with the amount of times the blood is cleaned?

Its the greatest thing to have you back and sharing your experience with all whom want to learn.
I'm with you in the getting pissed over this lyme taking over my life. Its time to really go to war with this disease.

Thanks for your insite
Love having you back and well


Harleyrider, I was wondering the same thing about how the treatment gets into the tissues and other hard to reach areas, including the organs. I'm looking forward to Martha sharing more on that with us.

Martha, so thrilled for your success! I too have had great success recently at the Hansa Center in KS and am thrilled to finally feel alive again!

God bless you and thanks for sharing your inspiring and encouraging story with us!

Gary

bucci
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   Posted 2/5/2010 9:43 PM (GMT -6)   
Martha vinyard,
I was trying to explain on other post about the EDTA IV they give for 3 hour before they do the antibiotic. Can you explain better. Dr K explained to me it breaks open the cells so the antibiotic can get in. (somethnglike that) when I googe EDTA it talk about is as an experiment for something about heart stuff and it was kind of inconclusive but it makes more sense how it works for helping the antibiotics work. Maybe you can explain better? One thing is I am way not as sick as I was taking my low dose of doxcy pills. I feel so supported here to keep the toxins from backing up on me. It gets a little bad but nothing like what I went thru with the pills alone.

bucci
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Dad has lyme


Martha's Vineyard
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   Posted 2/6/2010 12:34 AM (GMT -6)   
Well lets see. I should really call Ilene to get her to explain it to me better. But what I do remember is that our blood in tip top shape is 8 times stronger than any abx. Our blood is able to figth its own wars....when it is clean and able.
Think of it as water. It goes into every organ and cleans and feeds them all. It can be clean water, or it can be toxic and full of bacteria.
So the Ozone is good stuff. It cleans you up and helps give your immune system the leg up on its battle.
Lyme travels from one oragan to the next via the blood stream.
The EDTA or chelation is a harder part. It is a longer day of treatment. It is supposed to have a chemical that seaks and distroys the lyme bacteria. And the thing about lyme is that it knows when the body has taken abx. So it has a defense system set up to survive it soming for it. And it alerts the rest of the bacteria that the abx are coming for them. It reacts by putting up a protective shell that the abx cannot penatrate.
So they abx just go on by and instead kill all of the good bacteria that your body needs.
The edta comes in and destroys the shells. Or weakens them. Then they follow it up with the abx that you need depending on how many and which disease that you have. Like I had no idea that I had bart till I got all of my bllod work back from Igenex and fry. So I had never taken anything to kill bart. And I was having chest pains and panic attacks and untreatable depression. But that all went away.
The ozone boost you up along with all of the supplements that you have to take. And there are so darn many.
So your body builds up its army if you will, then they mix in some sttacks on the lyme. They mix things up differently for everyone. Because every one is coming in with many diff. co infections and many other complications from other problems. So the treatment is not the same for everyone.
The best thing to do is get your bllod work done first. Ingenex. Then fax your results to them. Then make an appointment for them to see you and your test. And the Dr. checks you out and they ask about 2 hours of questions.
Then they tell you what you need. They handle really serious other disease such a cancer. They help people who have already done all that they can do with chemo and radiation and who have no hope with all of that bs anymore. They boost up your body, and lot of it is common sense with the strict diet and vitamins.
Our family all got lyme in 2004. It has been a long battle. But all is well now with my children. Feb 8 TH of 2009 is when I left Envita. And I am celebrating a year of perfect health.


Martha's Vineyard
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   Posted 2/6/2010 12:42 AM (GMT -6)   
Ozone is the name of the treatment. And they UV the blood which sterilizes it. And then they also pump gas into it. And it goes through your bodyquickly and gets into everything. I don't really know how to explain it better than that. But I use to get a head rush off of it. I always felt better after it.
the edta days, well they were harder days to do. Because that is not a defense like Oaone but a very strong offense. It hits you hard.
They also give mineral ivs to make re plenish after these days at the end of the week.
But that is why the supp. and vit are play a huge part. Because they are helping your body help itself.
Which is what having a strong immune system is all about. No?
When I went in there I had no idea of what my treatment was. I am not really so happy with needles and donot like the site of blood.
Boy I got over that fast.
But the port made it easy. It is the only way to go. The viens in the arms are not going to put out that huge amount of blood 4 times a week. And it becomes a pain in the butt when you can't do the treatment for a few days because the viens in the arms...are shot.
Oh...and the other thing that I got every day was perioxide. A big bag of that. It gave me a funny taste in my mouth and people told me that I smelled like fruit punch...lol
Our family all got lyme in 2004. It has been a long battle. But all is well now with my children. Feb 8 TH of 2009 is when I left Envita. And I am celebrating a year of perfect health.


Harleyrider
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   Posted 2/8/2010 7:52 AM (GMT -6)   
MMMMMMMM Fruit Punch .... I used to like it spiked ... lol

Thanks for the explanation on the Ozone therapy. There are a few places in KS where I am from
that also do the Ozone therapy. Thinking of checking on those places, just kind of leary when you
never hear of a place like this close by.

How did Envita decide that a person with Lyme can benefit from this treatment? Were there studies done
in regards to lyme and co-infections?

MAN OH MAN! ! ! I really dont think I will be able to do the coffee enemas ... any enema for that matter.
Get poked enough in all other areas WHY there too???? LOL!! Geez!!
I know its just a thing for some and could possibly be for me too, just not right now. I can't do it. I'm a chicken!

Thanks Marie I will need to do some more research on clinics closer.
 


Martha's Vineyard
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   Posted 2/8/2010 8:02 AM (GMT -6)   
ha.....no coffee enimas for me....no way!
I had never heard of Ozone ever before there.
I was very pissed off to find out one I returned that my high dollar MD in palm beach....after he saw me and I was a new person. He was like...oh yeah....Ozone is good stuff and safe.
******.
Then why did he never mention it to me in 6 years????????????????????????
Because they are not supposed to talk about it. That is why.
Why? Why do our insurance comp. not want us to have a treatment that works. Because it does not involve drugs and making them rich? Oh silly me....it would cut back on their huge profits. We need to stay sick and use tons of drugs so that will have lots of provite and make more pills.
Us learning how to take good care of ourselfs and re building our immune systems is not part of the plan.
I heard that DR.s can lose their licenses for talking about Ozone treatment.
Isn't that odd?
The whole grail being kept a secret and out of reach for the dying.
Guess it is why they continue to sell cigarettes to us as well.
Profit is more important than people.
Our family all got lyme in 2004. It has been a long battle. But all is well now with my children. Feb 8 TH of 2009 is when I left Envita. And I am celebrating a year of perfect health.


Harleyrider
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   Posted 2/8/2010 8:42 AM (GMT -6)   
Ya the insurance company is really pissing me off too. We are self insured thru my hubbys union and we pay
over $16,000 a year for health care and I still have out of pocket expense. But I feel at times my insurance
couldnt be better. They never denied me any meds or and IV treatments.
When my son broke his leg they paid everything in full. (Awesome)
That would be a good question for my insurance company, If they pay for Ozone therapy! DING DING the light just
come on in my head. Crap...to think I have been wasting time with all these meds for 2 yrs now and there is a simple
thing called Ozone therapy that can help....

I used to think most Doctors went to medical school to help people, boy was I wrong when I had to start dealing with them.
Its like you have to do all the work and come up with your own plan and present it to them and they are like OH YEAH! Why
didnt I think of that! Dumbasses....OOPS! starting to get pissed again at these freakin drs. Better stop while im ahead
 


Martha's Vineyard
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   Posted 2/8/2010 12:29 PM (GMT -6)   
My insurance company Blue Cross, dropped me in Feb. 09. They will not give me a reason why.
They only paid for my port, like 1,300 and I paid to have it taken out.
I never had anyone at the clinic or let any of them contact my insurance over envita. because they do not approve alternative medicine.
But now I am not covered. I live in a million dollar home and cannot get coverage.
Funny...no?
I could compete and win a marathon now...but no....something, some big red flag is showing up on my insurance forms.
Never broke a leg....never had problems with all of the MRI's and cardio and tons of meds to work on all of the symptoms, but the port gave them a heads up that something was a miss.
Seems that lyme is costing them millions and they don't want to pay for it. I don't know how they found out. I sure as hell did not tell them.
I should have paid for the port myself..I knew that this would happen. I worried about it, and it did happen. Bad judgement on my side. I should have followed my gut. My mind was just a bit slow at the time.
Our family all got lyme in 2004. It has been a long battle. But all is well now with my children. Feb 8 TH of 2009 is when I left Envita. And I am celebrating a year of perfect health.


Martha's Vineyard
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   Posted 2/9/2010 8:14 AM (GMT -6)   
You know the problem with the Dr.s is not that they don't want to make you better. But the education that they get or don't get regarding infectous disease. Which after going through what I went through for the last 7 years, lyme is the answer to so many questions. And they just don't get it.
Also the New England Journal of Medicine and the insurance compainies have sort of tied many Dr.s hands behind their backs. And if the Dr.s do step outside of the box because they see too many sick friends or have sick kids...or better yet..try to treat themselfs with the bogos guild lines out there, well, they risk losing their jobs.
The fact of the matter is this.
The testing for lyme is Bullcrap. It is not acurate and it is a false negative. So then people do not get treated at all.
And 2 nd. The treatment for lyme is Bullcrap. Two weeks of doxy does not do anything to lyme. That is like giving someone with maleria or syphillis two weeks of abx...might as well kiss them good bye.
So....why all the trouble?
Could it be that they think that they can keep us blind that there is a huge epidemic of lyme sweeping our country? Of course there is. It makes maleria look like a cake walk. At the very least maleria kills you faster. Lyme makes you suffer and suffer and suffer.
Our family all got lyme in 2004. It has been a long battle. But all is well now with my children. Feb 8 TH of 2009 is when I left Envita. And I am celebrating a year of perfect health.


therearemiracles
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   Posted 2/9/2010 3:48 PM (GMT -6)   
MV how do I find out if my state has a doctor and where he's located to do the ozone treatement?
Very mild left sided (could have fooled me with the "mild")  UC.Just found out 4 years into it I might have Lyme's Disease, going to a LLMD in December. Confirmed Lymes on 12/8/09 before my new antibiotic protocal from my LLMD, I  Started and stopped LDN ON 1/25/09 to mid May no improvements. Tried Asacol, Pentesa, Colozol, Sulfasulsadine and Lialda, they made me worse. A range of antibiotics, not much better. Supplements: Threelac, multi, iron, very low yeast/sugar/wheat  No UC meds at this time. Started Doxy and Cedfinir too rough on stomach, started Bicillin injection 1/12/10, once a week of injections. Feel much more energy on shot.


Martha's Vineyard
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   Posted 2/9/2010 5:03 PM (GMT -6)   
Good question. What state do you live in?
Our family all got lyme in 2004. It has been a long battle. But all is well now with my children. Feb 8 TH of 2009 is when I left Envita. And I am celebrating a year of perfect health.


GWB
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   Posted 2/9/2010 5:23 PM (GMT -6)   
therearemiracles said...
MV how do I find out if my state has a doctor and where he's located to do the ozone treatement?


Try this: http://www.oxygenhealingtherapies.com/my_ozone_doctor.com.html

Gary

Martha's Vineyard
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   Posted 2/9/2010 5:25 PM (GMT -6)   
OMG...I am going to have to go to med school now yall !!!!!
It blood flows through your viens and feeds all of your organs in us all. How can it help if it is in top shape?
After you do this Ozone it is the first part of the treatment that they give you. Like step one. Then the other stuff comes in right after the blood goes in. They follow it up with a lot of other...stuff.

They are going to kill me for sounding so dumb...lol I had to call Enivta and ask questions today. I had to talk to a Dr. there. Because I don't want to give you guys the wrong answers.
I only found out about envita in a strange phone call at my home when a women I did not know got my number and she had called me wanting to know how the hospitals were in Munich...lol
And then when I told her how sick I was she told me that a friend had gone to this place...in Az.
I knew nothing. And I just thought....darn...a clinic that will help me?????????
I am going asap. Because I had already had 35 Dr.s and they could not help me. They tried that is for sure. But it just seemed that there was this huge void, and I also got angry with having to prove that so many things were wrong with me. Like I was making stuff up. You all know what I mean.
At envita they got it. I was so darn sick when I got there that I could barely see, had trouble talking....and walking..and couldn't think clearly. I did not know if I would get well or not. And frankly I am surprised to be well a year later. Today is my one year aniversary. Today is the day that they let me go home. I ran....lol. Ran to the hotel and packed my bags and got the first flight out. That day.
It is better to google really specific questions. Like how does healthy blood with oxygen help your body.
Oddly that came up in my hot yoga today. How disease cannot live in healty blood with high levels of oxygen in it. So google yoga as well. I wanted to raise my hand in yoga...lol...but I am suposed to keep my mouth shut..they are so mean to me...ha.
Our family all got lyme in 2004. It has been a long battle. But all is well now with my children. Feb 8 TH of 2009 is when I left Envita. And I am celebrating a year of perfect health.


Martha's Vineyard
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   Posted 2/9/2010 5:29 PM (GMT -6)   
I understand now that the clinic has numerous Dr.s across the state offering the same treatment that I had.
That is news to me.
I have a ton more questions to ask the Dr. and will get back to you asap. I need to know how to get this information to you and their new web site.
wow..they have really come along way since I was there a year ago.
I heard there is a place in the north east and also Kansas. But let me find out more. He will get back to me in the morning...oh...this is so exciting!
Our family all got lyme in 2004. It has been a long battle. But all is well now with my children. Feb 8 TH of 2009 is when I left Envita. And I am celebrating a year of perfect health.

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